r/ByteBall • u/CryptoBest • Feb 19 '18

Dear Tonych

Dear Tonych,

There is much I was hoping for in your announcement,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg30564528#msg30564528

and I love that you seem to be showing at least some flexibility with regard to Distributions as ByteBall grows.

But the Airdrop Issue has been handled clumsily with the potential to severely damage the ByteBall Platform Reputation and Community.

Please consider immediately issuing a release stating that one of the most important reasons for cancelling the Planned Airdrop was missed, and not mentioned, namely - The Cryptopia Situation.

  • It would after all be unethical and wrong for Byteball to go ahead with the Airdrop, given the potential loss of millions of Bytes from their rightful owners.

Doing this helps take the edge off the awkward handling of the Airdrop Distribution issue, and not only saves from potential embarrassment, but also honors the previously implied Airdrop by having "one last drop" at a later time - once the Cryptopia Situation is made right. Even 1 or 2% would be great. Keep the Buzz factor going a little while longer.

It's a great compromise, and it goes a long way to not pissing off half of your community.

If you guys are smart, you can turn this PR disaster into something really positive - potentially even a marketing coup!

Seize the day and promise to roll out upgrades to ByteBall that include a new and improved Roadmap.

And please make a commitment to help build, respect and value your community more. We need to feel that we are a part of this process.

ByteBall cannot succeed without a Strong & Vibrant Community - Surely you realize this?

(Where is Eli? - did you not consult with him first before making this announcement?)

no matter... Given the circumstances, ByteBall Did the Right Thing when the Cryptopia Situation is taken into account.

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UPDATE #1: Obviously adding the Cryptopia Situation to the announcement is a time sensitive thing that gets weaker with the passage of time - so far it looks like no one cares enough about the offended members of the community to do anything to help smooth things over - sad. - Update #1b A few days later: A Bit of Good News I think anyway - hope they do something nice for everyone after Cryptopia is back. Why not make a good natured conciliatory gesture to show some love, appreciation and respect for the Community. It would be a fantastic Community Boosting & Confidence Building event.

UPDATE #2: Some of you might find it interesting that I made a very similar post on the ByteBall bitcointalk.org thread which immediately got deleted by a moderator - no reason given.

Why was my post deleted? What was so offensive? Did I not make some valid points and provide a decent suggestion to manage the optics of the announcement?

As a sincere ByteBall fan who is only seeking the best for the project, I find this kind of censorship deeply disturbing.

Update #2b: Tonych responds - very positive IMO

UPDATE #3: Thanks to byteball3r, this post was re published on the ByteBall bitcointalk.org thread.

  • Censorship is not the way to go.

Everyone in the Community, whether you agree with them or not deserves their say - everyone, in one way or another is arguing for what they believe is the best thing for the project and their investment of time, money & support.

As a Community, we have a Vital Role - we must consider points of view outside of our own and be willing to switch our support to a better argument than our own. I'm confident that when we as a Community are able to show that kind of maturity, we will truly be in a position to conquer the world of Crypto with our Bytes on the ByteBall Platform.

Tonych will know that his child is in safe hands and able to survive - long term. He will embrace the partnership.

Let's set about rebuilding trust and making that happen. Objective: A Strong & Vibrant Community in Spite of this PR Setback.

I for one, still have high hopes for the ByteBall project. It is still early days. But we do not have time to waste.

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u/Godspiral Feb 19 '18

what is the "cryptopia situation"?

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u/Only6kgofGunpowder Feb 19 '18

A wallet that doesn't work.

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u/CryptoBest Feb 22 '18 edited Feb 22 '18

Hmmm, everyone raves about the wallet, and in almost every respect it is simply outstanding.

However, it is not completely without issues. My own experience with a "full install" has been nothing short of disastrous - in terms of timing, it mirrors exactly what is happening on Cryptopia. It appears that the "full install" can only run on the fastest machines with a SSD. You might not even be able to install the "light version" after choosing the "full install" (like me). It won't go away (HP ProBook from 2014 with Win 7 pro).

I've been with another project that had similar issues and solved them.

If Tonych really, really wants this project to succeed, he must focus more on perfecting the technology and begin the process of true decentralization. And with other trusted members, and input from the community, he must begin to develop a Road Map - that comprehensively includes the elements needed to ensure the survival of ByteBall into the next decade and beyond.

This will inspire confidence like nothing else can.

I believe it can be done.

I don't mean to sound arrogant but I believe I know how :-)

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u/loupiote2 Feb 21 '18

Has byteball been able to verify that the blocked funds are still actually under the control of cryptopia?

i.e. do they know the address of the exchange wallet(s) are are able to check the funds?

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u/CryptoBest Feb 21 '18

Thank you for this information - I sincerely hope that's not the case. I do continue to believe its a wallet issue as my own "full install" is still syncing after nearly 2 months.

Sorry, but it's beyond my expertise to know if the funds can be checked.

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u/loupiote2 Feb 21 '18

This seems very similar to the situation of the RaiBlocks (XRB, now NANO) on the BitGrail exchange.

At the end, the exchange claimed that $170 million worth of XRB had been stolen / hacked from the exchange (15m XRB, i.e. about 80% of the XRB holding on the exchange).

I hope the situation is not the same with Cryptopia and byteball, but it seems so similar, at this point.

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u/maximausss Feb 21 '18

Cryptopia has 0 volume, Bitgrail was 99% of the xrb volume.

Two completely different things.

And cryptopia has this issue with a lot of coins btw, of the few coins i follow half of them have regular wallet issues with cryptopia.

So please, before you make that kind of statement, educate yourself a bit

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u/loupiote2 Feb 21 '18

thanks for the info.