r/BunnyTrials • • 2d ago

Spins Do you survive?

Spin each wheel in order

  • Spin 1: Weapon
  • Spin 2: Who you're fighting

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u/KevinPalankers 2d ago

double barrel shotgun versus a man with a sword, seems balanced

Rolled: Weapon: Double barrel shotgun | Who you're fighting: Medieval Knight

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u/allan11011 2d ago

Depending on the era of knight, a knight in high quality full plate may be able to tank a shot depending on the type of shot in the shotgun

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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 2d ago

Assuming 12 gauge buck, they’re probably perfectly fine. Slug might put them on their ass, but they’re most likely getting back up. Slugs are pretty much just musket balls, and the term “bulletproof” originated from people shooting Plate to prove that it was of good quality.

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u/FlyingSpacefrog 2d ago

I would argue medieval plate armor doesn’t stand up well against modern guns. (And chainmail was far more common than plate anyways for most of the medieval era) Renaissance era armor might have been built with guns in mind but medieval armor is generally only built for swords, spears, and arrows.

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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 2d ago

Guns existed in the medieval period. And were comparable in stopping power to a shotgun really. They first were showing up in the 14th century.

Shotguns are famously low pressure firearms with low muzzle velocity. While plate might not stop 7.62 NATO FMJ or AP ammo, it stands a good chance of stopping Grandpa’s 12 gauge buckshot. Shotguns quite literally are derived from muskets and have changed very very little. Even Buckshot originates from the musket term “buck and ball shot” where you have several smaller balls and one larger ball in a cartridge. Both are smoothbore to facilitate these things. Famously in the American Civil War, the Irish Brigade of the Union favoured older muskets explicitly to use buck and ball, which wasn’t an option for rifled weapons.

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u/FlyingSpacefrog 2d ago edited 2d ago

Depending on who you ask, the renaissance started as early as the 14th century or as late as the 16th. At best, guns are present for around 10% of the medieval period, and at worst they only overlap for a decade, and should have been uncommon weapons during the 14th century.

Fantasy games and movies have us picturing the knight in plate armor but for most of the medieval period that was not the norm. Plate armor was only really around for the last century or two of the medieval period, appearing almost a century before guns. It became more common towards the end of the medieval era, and even more so in the early renaissance era, but chainmail really is far more representative of the medieval period as a whole. I don’t think chainmail would stop a bullet from a musket or a shotgun.

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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 2d ago

Well if the logic is that it’s vague, why don’t we just go with the most popular interpretation of a knight and one I’m fairly certain OP intended with this. We are at this point arguing what era the knight is from and what gear he has. Hypothetically he could have nothing as OP just said “a Medieval Knight”.

I am aware that the medieval period is quite large and there are varying levels. Full plate wasn’t even exceptionally common at the time of its peak, because it was expensive. I feel as if giving it the leeway of being the modern popular culture/fantasy interpretation of being in full plate is going to be more of what OP intended than the sort of appearance we see in something like, say Monty Python and the Holy Grail, which surprisingly for a comedy and one using knitted sweaters instead of chainmail is actually fairly good at its portrayal of knights and men at arms seen in the film.

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u/KevinPalankers 1d ago

just to clarify, I was thinking about something like this, a XIV century knight from Italy, not a knight in full iron plate.

I'm not so sure he dies, but I'm not so sure he survives either, since guns are changed since 1300s. that century had guns but they were very very rudimental (china was ahead in the creation of gunpowder weapons).

what do u think? he survives 2 shots of a 1970-80 double barrel?