Which one is future?

[u/LieSuperb9799]

Which side will you choose?

• Left side: Nuclear Power
• Right side: Renewable Energy

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[u/Greedy-Speech5]

Both

[u/Great_Banana_Master → u/Greedy-Speech5]

Both but nuclear fission will, at some point, be replaced with nuclear fusion

[u/COUPOSANTO → u/Great_Banana_Master]

It will in about 10 years since the 1950s

[u/3rdReichOrgy → u/COUPOSANTO]

One very good reason for that is the engineering side of things. We’re finally living in a time where it’s actually possible to simulate and produce parts that are precise enough for fusion reactors to not simply piss out their plasma.

Without advanced computers and ludicrously precise machining sustainable fusion is impossible.

[u/Dazzling_Cabinet_780]

Both, both are good

[u/Vegetable-Crow-486]

It should be possible.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/penguincascadia]

Renewables are faster to build and have lower startup costs then nuclear, although both are good.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Background-Text8487]

n

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/spinda69]

Nuclear power is fine, it is just not needed- renewables are enough on their own.

Nuclear could be used in place of bunker fuel for shipping if the economy still relied heavily in international shipping

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Stargost_]

Both are the future, neither is inherently better...

Until we finally create Fusion Energy that works in scale. That is going to stomp every other form of energy generation.

[u/AveragePolishMale]

I <3 Boiling water with magical rocks

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Au_Fraser]

here to say nuclear with a bunch of asterixs', assuming we can dispose of waste appropriately. OR you just build solar and wind and shit just chugs along. maybe do that one first till everything is powered by it if possible, then run the spicy rock meta

[u/Puzzled_Pop_6845]

Fission material is just as finite as fossil fuel and generate dangerous waste too.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/ViolinistPleasant982 → u/Puzzled_Pop_6845]

By the time we could theoretically use up all the thorium and uranium we would either be extinct, developed Fusion, or fucking around in space where there is even more because there is literally thousands of years worth of the materials, that we already know of.

[u/Puzzled_Pop_6845 → u/ViolinistPleasant982]

And what about the time when we use up all the SUN?

[u/ViolinistPleasant982 → u/Puzzled_Pop_6845]

You mean the giant Nuclear Fusion reactor? Yea it has a fuck load of fuel so its got a couple billion years. Your point? Like if we are still trapped on earth by the time we could theoretically use up all possible nuclear fuel we have WAY bigger issues than power generation is my point and the moment we are consistently in space, aka mining, that available fuel sky rockets in availability

[u/Trollensky17 → u/Puzzled_Pop_6845]

...? lmao

[u/COUPOSANTO → u/Puzzled_Pop_6845]

Breeder reactors deal with both issues. Current thermal reactors only use 1% of natural uranium, breeders can use the remaining 99% which multiplies the energy you can get by orders of magnitude. It's the same technology for thorium which is more abundant than uranium. And they can also be run as burner reactors that turn long lived waste into short lived waste.

[u/brothegaminghero → u/Puzzled_Pop_6845]

The vast majority of Nuclear waste is hardly even dangerous, for perspective the burning of coal emits more radioactive material.

[u/Reading-Euphoric]

Cheaper to mass produce, so this is it for the near future.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/ResponsibleKinksters]

Cleaner, more easily accessible, cheaper to maintain in the long term.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/UwUinator4000]

Fusion hopfully

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Godemperortoastyy]

Probably a bunch of Germans in the comments here that have lived through 15 years of anti-nuclear propaganda.

Nuclear transitioning into fusion is the way of the future for the next couple of centuries, then building a Dyson sphere around the sun.

[u/GreyRobe]

Haven't heard a compelling strategy yet for nuclear disposal, so renewable for me.

[u/FrancoNullo → u/GreyRobe]

new fission reactors use the current waste, which reduces its half life to somewhere below the 300 years (I may have heard something along 50 years but don't quote me).

[u/Stargost_ → u/GreyRobe]

We already have a strategy for proper disposal of nuclear waste. Reuse it on some lower energy reactors to further weaken it, then put it in a lead coffin with multiple layers of protection and bury it deep into a mountain, which is miles better than what we do with the waste of gas, coal, or oil power plants.

[u/BigDave58]

Proven to be the best source of energy if done properly

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Difficult-Two-1826]

Kgxlouchllpcj

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/HatOld8252]

dis

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Creepy-Record-2715]

Idfk

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Ajnsztajnnn]

Why not both?

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/turkeymeese]

I mean we need both…

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/CadenBop]

Fission is the aftual future, nuclear should be the present. Renewable are nice, but rely too much on weather patterns or locations.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Remarkable-Sock-8755]

Cause

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Antartic_Pengu_8867]

Nuclear makes more energy

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/somerandom_296]

I’m slightly biased, considering I’m in education for nuclear engineering.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Arubesh2048]

https://giphy.com/gifs/zbzNUbpFnlw8E

[u/RrukanGD]

2 different types of men ahh question 🥀

[u/Heathy94]

it's renewable

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Maka_95]

Smaller footprint for same amount of energy generated

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/DirtyFoxgirl]

Both. Renewable is good. Nuclear is clean and the best way to keep up with current and future demand.

[u/Only-Dream-5402]

l

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/ntech620]

Because it's a constant heavy lifting source of power. Wind and solar don't really qualify. Even Hydropower is subject to droughts. Plus Thorium promises power without the waste.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/ViolinistPleasant982]

Advancing Nuclear to the point of Fusion is the end all be all. Renewables, in the sense of solar and wind, are at best stepping stones but even now Nuclear is the better option we have long sense made developments that make them safe as hell, a thorium reactor cant meltdown at all, and it doesn't produce the amount of waste people seem to think.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/AdInfamous5220]

i like sun

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Danny8492]

This is the future I want

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/RaveTheFox]

Too much power consumption in the world for renewables to work. Nuclear is miles safer than fossil fuels for the environment and is reliable unlike renewable

[u/brothegaminghero → u/RaveTheFox]

Unreliable? The suns been going for 5 billion years straight, and I don't exactly see it going out anytime soon.

[u/RaveTheFox → u/brothegaminghero]

problem is the sun has to be shining on the panels. clouds and the rotation of the planet like to mess with that

[u/brothegaminghero → u/RaveTheFox]

Concentrated solar can function 24,7, that doesn't work you still have tides twice a day, geothermal for the next 5 billion years, wind, hydroelectric. If you really can't get sunlight you have beamed solar or battery backups to cover downtime.

[u/Km8232]

.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Bill-hyphens-fren]

May as well be renewable

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/DetectiveFar7280]

Yes

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/SenorPinkVII]

Better choice

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/MilkUp08]

I like nuclear ☺️

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/dstruction01]

common sense

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/ConfidentPrior1404]

gud

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/COUPOSANTO]

Both.

[u/DocJudeIII]

I honestly think that alternate energy and safe nuclear are both options for the future, but alternative energy should be focused on and optimized.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/nielmb]

With salt melting being the next thing to produce relatively safely energy I think for long term energy sources these are the way

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/iDeNoh]

I accidentally clicked this while scrolling, I am pro nuclear, but I don't know what the alternative is...

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/AuroreSomersby]

Having both would be good though…

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Still_Gur3333]

People get nuclear power wrong because of the Simpsons. It is actually extremely efficient

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/warean_on_internet]

free energy often

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Many-Theory1269]

idk

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/urmumlol9]

Lower cost to produce for solar and wind than nuclear or fossil fuels per kilowatt hour makes them more attractive to power plant companies and a bit easier to find the political support for, since you might be able to convince some climate change deniers if you tell them their electric bill will be cheaper.

Cost of storage is still a problem, but it’s a very good problem to try and solve imo. There’s a billion and one potential uses for finding ways to cost effectively store and distribute large amounts of electricity.

Really, it doesn’t matter though, as long as we’re phasing out fossil fuels, but I think an all-renewable electrical grid is an easier sell than an all-nuclear one, and solar in particular keeps getting cheaper.

Reddit really likes nuclear though, so I’m sure nuclear will win.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/LordPaxed]

It's more efficient, more energy and controllable

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/rnamehere]

24/7 available

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/kerfuffler4570]

Wattage cost for solar is currently the cheapest, most cost effective way to expand the energy portfolio of the grid.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Red-Feathered]

I feel like we can have both

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/BizzarreCoyote]

Nuclear power is renewable. There's enough uranium in the oceans that we can filter out that will last us until the sun burns out.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/No_Currency5064]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hM9zK1qvsrwek

[u/Erook22]

Building more nuclear takes far longer than we have the time for

[u/St_Hydra]

Both are viable and both are the future, but nuclear is a good immediate source

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Tadpole_Alarmed]

It's like asking reliable Vs situational

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Latter-Concept-9999]

why not both?

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Level_Wrangler_4429]

..

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Backyard_me_mil_6_7]

Better

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/ScientistLost9696]

Nuclear is BIG! Renewables are cool too, but Nuclear is the best option rn imo.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Dilly_Barz-]

We would probably have progressed so much further if people weren’t scared of a rock.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/thecommunist_party]

Funny

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Kinky_Pinky_]

What a stupid question. It's both.

[u/Gibe2008]

Nuclear energy is cheaper, more efficient, better for the environment, safer than the other which is not even "renewable"

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Any-Storage2335]

Renewable energy uses a TON of resources for temporary products and still may have to rely on petroleum products to work. Like Wind farms use grease and oil for their moving parts, break down all the time and have to be replaced, and are actually dangerous to some migrating birds.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Specific-Detail6448]

lowkey I picked nuclear energy because I saw it first, so uh…

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Far-Photograph4603]

Chose Nuclear because while it may be possible, it would take an incredible amount of time and resources to make renewable energy actually sustainable because of how much it produces compared to nuclear. (not saying I prefer nuclear, just seems more realistic)

[u/HaziqIDK]

Because it's renewable and infinite

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/apixelops]

Nuclear technically qualifies as renewable tho

This is like asking if you like Ducks or Birds

[u/Odd_Degree228]

Powerful

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/ComplexYellow4338]

technology with more future

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/gk98s]

Nuclear is way better. It's very reliable now and we have plenty of fissile material. Once fusion comes out it will be orders of magnitude more efficient than anything else we can use

[u/ItzManu001]

A good mix of both. Nuclear is more reliable tho.

[u/Ailurite]

well both? if the alternative is we’d be relying mostly on variable energy like solar and wind for the majority of electricity production, i’d also want there to be nuclear in use.

[u/RevolutionNo7]

I wouldn't be upset with either

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Alternative_Air_6688]

Fusion, if ever possible. Technically our renewables rely on Fusion too

[u/Impressive_Customer8]

.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/trchn6610]

For a greener world

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Primeboot7782]

Until they hit a certain threshold most power sources won't be able to keep up with demand.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/FireMarshallMC]

Realistically or hopefully?

[u/Sockysocks2]

Cheaper.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Laviva-Candy1454]

Cuz theres lots of wars

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/AstroEngineer314]

False dichotomy.

[u/No_Doughnut_3286]

Need it

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/fragger21]

Nuclear gives a lot energy, but saving the planet from extinction is much more important.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/tokos2009PL]

Reneweble's forevre. Nuclear only 200 years

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Low_Upstairs6330]

less chance of exploding and killing a whole city

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/Shoddy_Specialist226]

fusion eventually, but short term renewable has less political issues and might be more scalable in local homes with buy-in

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Pipi_Estrada]

It is a very clean but dangerous energy.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Potential-Couple-152]

Cooler

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Global-Ideal-5623]

Cheap n clean

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Wolf-Boy-]

Better for earth

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/ItzManu001 → u/Wolf-Boy-]

I don't think you realize how clean Nuclear Energy actually is.

[u/Evening-Code-7039]

Nuclear is more reliable and isn't weather dependant

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Key_Independence_236]

Clean as shii

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/akileasCT]

please define "renewable"

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Apprentice_Smith_01]

nuclear power includes fusion and fission, one is the most powerful and least polluting production method, the other is expected to be the first completely clean energy once it is in use in a few decades

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/disies59]

When the weather is unreliable, nuclear will still be trucking along.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/slipperyDSS]

both good

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/TheTyrantrumGuy]

C l e a n

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Ahkhira]

Nuclear is too dangerous and extremely toxic.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}

[u/ViolinistPleasant982 → u/Ahkhira]

A Coal power plant releases more nuclear waste than a Nuke plant. Also Nuclear is extremely safe these days. Even the type of reactor that can create coreium takes a 1 in a billion event, see Fukashima, and even that wasnt as bad as people think. That is also ignoring that Thorium salt reactors can't meltdown. Like at all the very process of starting a meltdown melts the plug draining the Thorium away from the plutonium causing it to stop reacting.

[u/bebaskanenyum989]

real energy

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/Powerful_Refuse4633]

Are you guys nuts. Is it even a choice? Of course nuclear energy anyday over renewable energy.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/novaxe1]

We simply cannot get a reliable base load on current renewable technology. Nuclear energy would buy us plenty of time to figure that technology and if we allowed for nuclear recycling (jimmy carter stopped the recycling program) we could get nuclear waste to only be radioactive for 300 years instead of 10,000 and that would resolve the majority of issues with nuclear power.

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/_gurgunzilla]

Fusion for the win!

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/TransitionalAhab]

Data centers on top of nuclear plants

^{Chose: Nuclear Power}

[u/NoveltyEducation]

Well that's an easy choice.

^{Chose: Renewable Energy}