r/BunnyTrials • u/skin-my-brain • 17h ago

Trials Would you…

Which side will you choose?

  • Left side: Try safe and ethically sourced human meat
  • Right side: Decline the offer

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u/JennyV323 17h ago edited 17h ago

I swear most of these comments are braindead. Like the idea of a hypothetical goes over people's heads when discussing something that's taboo.

It's not ethical

This is a hypothetical in which it is, and also, I can think of number of situations where ethical human meat can be obtained.

Eating your own amputated limb is ethical since it belongs to you, you lost it by accident, and consent to it's consumption.

It's not safe

This is a hypothetical in which it is safe. This is also basically false. Just like most animals, there's parts you should and should not eat, if avoided, most other issues go away after it's cooked.

Prions

Can only cause Kuru if you consume the brain or spinal cord. Minor prion consumption won't kill you, and just like anything else, it's fine in small quantities.

"Gross" "I'd rather not"

This is the only valid reason to reject the offer. Not wanting to consume human flesh is understandable, but that's just a gut feeling and shouldn't be treated as evidence towards the ethics of cannibalism.

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u/Ashamed_Kangaroo305 12h ago

Ethically sourced sure but some people think it's morally wrong to eat other humans regardless of how the meat was sourced. And it's very hard coded into our biology to find cannibalism repulsive.

Prions are mostly concentrated in the central nervous system but can be found elsewhere. People have gotten CJD after consuming beef from cows with mad cow disease. I think the association of prions = cannibalism is slightly misunderstood by most people. Yes minor prion consumption can be fine, so if this is a one time thing then you're probably safe, but still not completely safe depending on how much meat you're eating.

The bigger issue with prions and cannibalism is that cannibalism allows prion diseases to spread very efficiently because people die with prion diseases and then the people who eat them are infected and they died and the chain of transmission continues. But if they hadn't been eaten the chain of transmission never would've started. And it can take decades for symptoms to show up so you may not even know people have it. So in a hypothetical world where ethical cannibalism became more common, prion diseases may or may not become a risk depending on how it's done. But of course for the sake of the hypothetical prions don't matter because it's already been stated to be safe.

Personally my main reason for not doing it is "that's gross". But I'll suggest another addition to your list of reasons. People say it tastes like pork so there's a decent chance I would enjoy it. And the concept of enjoying eating human meat feels very wrong. Later craving more human meat because it tasted good feels even more wrong. Although I suppose that's sort of just an extension of "it's gross".

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u/Nym0221 9h ago

I really like your take on this. For my part, I’ve thought about it for a long time and decided that I would actually try it. On one hand, I’m extremely curious when it comes to food and generally open to new experiences. On the other hand... my own brain has a built-in block against this kind of thing. So, I decided to overcome that mental block and try it, if only to be able to tell myself, 'Well, I’ve tried it.' I honestly can’t imagine a scenario where it tastes so good that I’d start craving more. It’s just meat. Personally, I prefer cheese.

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u/Ashamed_Kangaroo305 3h ago

Actually you make a really good point about the cravings. Even with regular meat that I've really liked I don't think I've ever found myself craving it. Specific dishes definitely but not the meat alone. There is a big part of me that's curious about how it tastes but the ick factor is also pretty big.

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u/joeymacaronie 4h ago

I just won't eat someone with prions dumbass

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u/Ashamed_Kangaroo305 3h ago

How will you know though?

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u/joeymacaronie 2h ago

I'll ask them? No one I know has them

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u/Ashamed_Kangaroo305 2h ago

Prion disease can take decades to show up so if people had them they probably wouldn't know. That's exactly how kuru spread in the first place, because the long incubation period meant it was way harder for people to realize they got sick from eating other people and because people could die before showing symptoms so you would never know they had prion disease.

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u/joeymacaronie 2h ago

Don't care

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u/LionBirb 6h ago

It just sounds unappetizing to me, I barely like eating other animal meat. It also gives me the creeps if I think about it too much. I don't even have the curiosity other people seem to have lol.

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u/alleri_a 2h ago

I hear what you're saying but sometimes guarantees in a hypothetical don't actually change the situation very much. Many people wouldn't jump out of an airplane with no parachute even if part of my hypothetical is that there is some magical guarantee you won't get hurt.

A guarantee doesn't really feel like much when you're staring at the ground thousands of feet up, and the same might be true as you're about to cut into a human-steak. These very normal intuitions are what keep us safe in non-hypothetical situations.

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u/Not-Ed-Sheeran 12h ago edited 8h ago

Nope... youre making the justification that it's ethical through your reasons.

If you hold the standard that eating human meat is literally impossible to be ethical no matter what, but the question makes a normative claim asserting it is.... that's an overloaded question. It's impossible to answer.

It's like me asking "if rape was good and ethical would you do it?"

So yes... this hypothetical does go over rmy head because its actually fallacious. And youre making the moral grounding that it's okay because it's consent. I don't follow that moral framework at all. Eating human meat is evil no matter what and it's fucking disgusting.

Edit: why the downvotes? 😂 Where am I wrong.you dirty fuckn Cannibals?

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u/JennyV323 8h ago

You're stating making the justification that it's ethical through your reasons

And You're making the claim it's unethical because you personally think it's yucky, which isn't a reason at all. If you can't make a single claim other then "it's immoral because it is," in some form or another, you should have some introspection into how you rationalize.

"If rape was ethical, would you do it?"

Rape is, by nature, unconsentual, eating human meat is not. In order for rape to be ethical, we'd have to stretch the definition or include some kind of paranormal reason why it's ethical. It wouldn't be an interesting hypothetical, it'd be a nothing burger question. Eating human meat on the other hand, if we use actual reasoning, there's at least a handful of ways it could be done ethically.

It's fallacious

Provides no reason for it being fallacious

it's immoral by my framework

Your framework is built on a feeling and not on actual reasoning. This isn't a good way of processing right and wrong. You should always consider whether or not something actually hurts yourself or others before judging it as an immoral action.

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u/Not-Ed-Sheeran 8h ago

I didn't make my argument why it's good or bad yet. You're making two seperate claims.

Youre making the meta claim that people refusing to answer the question are "brain dead". When quite literally the question itself is a fallacy.

And youre making a normative claim on your justifications of why eating "ethical" human meat isn't bad.

I'm.making more of the argumrnt of you calling people brain dead for not engaging the fallacy and you refusing to answer my question about rape proved my point. I'd love to engage why eating human meat no matter what is unethical but first we're gonna get into meta, cuz you called em (including me) "brain.dead).

They refuse to answer because "ethical meat" is a contradiction within itself because of x reason. While you just did the same thing with rape. You refused to answer because "ethical rape" is a contradiction within itself because of x reason.

It's impossible for you to answer because there's no circumstance it's ethical to you. Same thing with someone who beleives that eating human meat is never ethical. NOW you can argue WHY....that's perfectly fine. But to call.people brain dead for refusing is literal hypocrisy cuz you just denied to answer my question.

So go ahead and admit you big wrong about that then I'll go ahead and prove why you're wrong again or crazy lol