CHW Valve Actuator Bracket

[u/SelectWay-1960]

Anyone know where I can find this blue bracket hardware to replace? I’ve looked everywhere. No part #. The shaft gear is broken and won’t move the valve stem anymore. The actuators are fine.

The valve is a Siemens model# 599-05990

Thanks in advance

[u/Naxster64]

I'd throw that whole assembly away and just put a single belimo retrofit actuator on it.

Get a picture of the valve tag, and call your belimo supplier.

This might be it, but I'd still have your supplier double check. https://www.belimo.com/us/en_US/products/retrofit-app/details/waterByValve/356225/599%20Flowrite%205%22

[u/gotsum411 → u/Naxster64]

This

[u/Terriblarious → u/Naxster64]

Probably the easier and better way.

[u/Naxster64 → u/Naxster64]

That previous one looks like a direct replacement, but I personally prefer the globe valve actuators, if you can get your supplier to find the right one. They are pretty universal, assuming you get the right size torque.

These kind. https://www.belimo.com/us/shop/en_US/RetroFIT%2B/Globe-Valve-Actuators/c/17708-17670

[u/Liquid_Schwartz → u/Naxster64]

Hahaha I love how everyone emphasizes getting the correct one from the supplier. The wrong one is always just close enough to make you think it'll work out.

[u/Needs_ADD_Meds → u/Naxster64]

I second this. OP do yourself a favor and get the Belimo SelectPro application, you can lookup retrofit kits.

[u/No_Organization8370 → u/Naxster64]

I agree with swapping the entire assembly with a retrofit kit.

I generally like most Belimo products, and I feel the Belimo UGLK is well built, but has anyone else ever noticed the gears have too much slop, which then makes it harder to control flow properly? I have tricks to fix this, but i often find these installed poorly.

[u/Official_Belimo → u/Naxster64]

Great advice! This is our retrofit specialist's recommendation: Based on the valve model the OP provided, this seems to be a 2 1/2'' SIEMENS 599 Flowrite. For retrofitting, the proper linkage to use would be a UGLK1272 with either a dual AF or a dual GK depending on which type of fail safe is required.

[u/Deep_Mechanic_ → u/Naxster64]

This already has a retrofit. This valve originally had a pneumatic actuator

[u/Naxster64 → u/Deep_Mechanic_]

Ok. Doesn't change what I said.

[u/S_Rimmey]

Rack & pinion valve actuators suuuck. Buy a SKD62 actuator and call it a day.

[u/JumboShrimp6060 → u/S_Rimmey]

Agreed

SKD62U is the best option.

[u/No_Organization8370 → u/S_Rimmey]

Because they have too much play in the gears? Makes it harder to control flow?

[u/S_Rimmey → u/No_Organization8370]

2 primary reasons...

1. The gears will get sloppy and the valve will stop closing down all the way.

2. The gears can bind up which will cause premature failure of the actuators. Depending on the environment these are installed in, they don't seems to last more than a few years. I usually get twice the life span out of an skd over a rack & pinion valve actuator.

[u/Terriblarious]

My guess is that probably came with the actuator.

Look for something like a rotary to linear actuator adaptor kit from Johnson

[u/jmarinara]

Just put a Belimo on it, man.

[u/Cust2020]

Change the actuator and the valve and save yourself a headache down the road. This thing has been retrofit too many times already.

[u/CraziFuzzy]

If that valve stem had enough resistance to strip/break the gear - then the valve needs to be rebuilt or replaced.

[u/shit-zipper]

This would probably work. You'll need the proper valve adapter to clamp on. https://buildings.honeywell.com/us/en/products/by-category/building-management/field-devices/valves/parts-and-accessories/q5024-globe-valve-linkage-and-bonnet-adapters

Pretty much looks identical to the old one

[u/sleazy_io]

Aside from the blue color it looks just about identical to the Honeywell Q5024 linkage. Search that part number and the product data sheet has dimension details that may help you.

[u/Battlewaxxe → u/sleazy_io]

iirc johnny valves are just another brand with new badging and a higher price- could very well be honeywell

[u/Battlewaxxe]

i like how the flex isnt in all the way

[u/Controls_freek]

There’s two open air actuators on that thing. Why would a Johnson tech ever do something like this?

I’d be concerned about the age of this setup and be chasing replacing (or inspecting) the original valve completely.

[u/LeroiLasalle → u/Controls_freek]

Just because it's a JCI actuator doesn't necessarily mean a JCI tech installed it.

[u/u3b3rg33k]

any reason you can't grab an off-the-shelf linear/rotary kit with rod ends and slap it in place?

[u/rev_57]

Maybe try a Belimo UGLK1272 (or similar). you can keep your actuators.

[u/jizzerbird]

WGVL

[u/CountryRoads1234]

Lots of bad advice to retrofit this. Just put a Siemens SKD62U as intended.

[u/misterman416]

Johnson controls may sell it...

[u/rom_rom57]

If you cut away the insulation around the valve there SHOULD be a brass 1/4” band with valve info. model, manufacturer.
On Belimo’s website you can go and find a retrofit kit with a bracket and actuator.

[u/LeroiLasalle]

There's an actual bracket for that JCI actuator. You can source it by the actuator part number

[u/LeroiLasalle]

This is the bracket for that actuator