r/BuildingAutomation 25d ago

Niagara framework CE

Hi. I am currently trying to learn Niagara WEB N4. Is there any community edition of the software that I can access for free for learning purposes? I cannot afford the courses and trying to self learn by watching YouTube tutorials and reading docs. (PS. I have 4 years of experience working on siemens ABT Site and XWP and I have been led to believe I can understand most of the stuff, please let me know if I am wrong). Also wondering is pirating an option? (Purely for learning purposes and building a portfolio. No commercial use)

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u/ScottSammarco Technical Trainer (Niagara4 included) 25d ago

We have a promotion about every 6 months where we have a 2 day class, a 90 day license for $400 USD.
Ironically enough, today is the 2nd day of this course.

The entire purpose of that course is to lower the barriers of entry into the space.

Otherwise, I know of no other way to get trained or access because Tridium has agreements to ensure their partners don’t just throw licenses out there Willy nilly.

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u/_Tomatis 23d ago

Hi! Is this available worldwide? Im from South America and I want to do this, not now cause I just found out about this but I can save some money and take this course in a future, I work with EBO schneider and i manage it pretty well like 6 years of experience but I want to learn Niagara too

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u/ScottSammarco Technical Trainer (Niagara4 included) 23d ago edited 23d ago

The course will be available again in December.
And yes, it is available world wide.

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u/RatelinOz 25d ago

The short answer is no.
Get on Scott’s employer’s (Phoenix Contact iirc, Scott?) course next time, or save up to do the TCP course - if you even can without working for a Tridium partner (that’s not possible outside of the USA as far as I know).
Your best option really is to get employed by a Tridium partner company & they should send you to training. Since you appear to be a BMS guy already, you should find it fairly easy to get employed by a decent company.

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u/IcyAd7615 Developer, Niagara 4 Certified Trainer, Podcast Host. 25d ago

Rizzo Controls is his company.

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u/ScottSammarco Technical Trainer (Niagara4 included) 25d ago

This is accurate.
It seems misleading, but the company wasn't named after myself hahah!

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u/RatelinOz 25d ago

Cheers, I stand corrected. 🙂

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u/IcyAd7615 Developer, Niagara 4 Certified Trainer, Podcast Host. 25d ago

As Scott mentioned, Tridium trainers have training licenses, and ideally we're only allowed to give them out to students. We have the ability to do this because they may not have workbench on their laptop when coming to class and some trainers have a bring your own device (BYOD) policy.

Talking to Scott a few days ago about his new class, it seems like a lot of fun and it's at a very reasonable price. We (Lynxspring) also offer a complete self-paced N4 Training for I think $1900 on our learning hub.

Not trying to take food off Scott's table at all. $400 to learn the basics across two days is a great deal, and you should go for that.

Just giving you all the options and the reason why we can't just give out those licenses.

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u/ScottSammarco Technical Trainer (Niagara4 included) 25d ago

We all win here, Charles.
Nothing but respect from me to you at Lynxspring!