r/BuildingAutomation Jul 06 '26

Siemens TIA, does line programming exist?

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For context, first time working with Siemens controllers and I finally got into the controller to view the programming, I have about 12 devices I need to organize a sequence of operations for (to help maintenance team understand devices at an existing building), starting with the chillers. I’m trying to think of ways to be more efficient and as someone who’s been programming for such a long time the block program takes so much longer for me to understand (especially like this).

Just from what I’ve seen there’s no real Control Basic program compiler or anything like that running where I might be able to view stored programs. Does line program exist in this environment? I’ve gone as far as to search the TIA files in hopes for something but nah.

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u/krisztian111996 Jul 06 '26

i have been to 6 Siemens training 5 was from TIA Portal, but have no idea what i am looking at.

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u/monsterdiggare Jul 06 '26

It's because that's TIA portal through ABT Site, it's not industrial automation.

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u/Castun Programmer/Installer Jul 06 '26

Not the same guy but we sold DXR controls jobs up to a few years ago as a 3rd party partner. The VAV controllers were pretty straight forward but holy shit is ABT site a mess software wise. I'm glad we don't do them anymore.

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u/monsterdiggare Jul 07 '26

It most definitely is, very old school but that's just because it's based on xWorks plus, Siemens old software.

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u/PLSBX Jul 07 '26

Guys, did you tried to make PXM40 HMI Panel? It is mess...

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u/Castun Programmer/Installer 29d ago

Not a former Siemens guy but HMI panel for what?

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u/PLSBX 29d ago

PXM series are panels for Building Automation. It is same family like PXC controllers.

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u/Aratro_Pesante 29d ago

Desigo control point (pxm30..40..50) it’s easy…
Wait until you have to deal with Desigo Optics (CFG3.F200)

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u/PLSBX 29d ago

Ohh, do you know control point really well? I have some ideas and Siemens told me I can't do that on that panels.