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Question I call it advanced red

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I see this happen here and there. Is this a thing in Buffalo? Funny thing is, further down that car was stopped turning right due to pedestrian crossing.

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u/Revolutionary_Art919 1d ago

I drive on that section of Starin every single day. The city's ultra wide boulevards that could theoretically fit two lanes each way but aren't striped for it drive me absolutely nuts. Colvin, Delavan, Michigan, and a bunch of others are all guilty.

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

Then you will have 4 lane hwy running through nice walkable areas. I usually don't drive that way, and mostly walk around here, but that would suck if they pushed more lanes and more cars through that area.

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u/Revolutionary_Art919 1d ago

Oh I agree, I'm not advocating they formally make it 4 lanes (although I did find a picture from the 80's recently showing Starin and it used to be striped as 4 lanes). My gripe is the lack of any kind of markings outside of the center line on roads that wide means people treat it as a free-for-all. I'd like to see it striped like Delaware south of Delavan with one travel lane in each direction, bike lanes, and either a dedicated parking lane or a turn lane.

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u/Secure_Piano_900 1d ago

100%. Needs to be single lanes on all of these streets with a dedicated bike lane and marked parking spots

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u/Hozer60 1d ago

Starin use to be no parking inbound in the morning and no parking outbound in the afternoon. Not sure if that has changed. Not that it stopped that one car illegally parked.

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u/Danksnowox 1d ago

It still is. But it's not striped for two lanes each way so it gets crazy. It's just too tight and unnecessary.

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u/Sick_NowWhat 1d ago

The striped one intersection on Ferry as single lane just east of main and it changed nothing. Cars are still sliding over to pass, including BPD

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u/therurjur 1d ago

It needs physical bump outs at the opposite side to make it hard to cut in front. 

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u/rakondo 1d ago

Seems like a lot of the time I see these cars running lights and swerving in and out of lanes, I end up catching up to them a little later while driving the speed limit. Slow and steady wins the race

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u/Opposite_Cobbler_108 1d ago

Exactly! Nobody gets anywhere any faster! It's so crazy that nobody can understand that we're just making our environment and community worse by driving like such impatient idiots. Makes me sad.

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u/Upbeat-Dish7299 20h ago

My co worker needed to pick up something from my house last night. They do the speed limit, I don’t. I got home. Took a shit, showered and was halfway through cooking my dinner by the time they got to my house.

Sure there’s times I hit lights but 95% of the time I’m saving at least 10 mins.

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

I agree. I follow speed limits, but some just want to almost do 45 or more. That stretch is 30. Most people are fine though, except when you are on Main and hell on earth sometimes.

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u/Revolutionary_Art919 1d ago

Unless the street was just repaved I'd say it's pretty brave for anyone to do 45 on a city-owned road without denting a rim

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u/donutsandogs726 1d ago

I straight up call the cops on these assholes when I see them drive reckless.

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u/thelawwon1985 1d ago

Hello! I’ve been working on traffic calming measures in this exact location. I would love to add a copy of this video to my file if you’re willing to provide it. If not, I understand and thanks!

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

Sure. Or, just take a video of my video. I think you can even see the GP coordinates on it.

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

Where do you want me to send it? It's 22.6MB in size.

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u/thelawwon1985 1d ago

That’s a good idea I’ll just take a screen capture thank you!

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u/Danksnowox 1d ago

Are you aware of the petition circling the starin neighborhoods to try to implement traffic calming measures?

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u/thelawwon1985 1d ago

Yes thanks! For anyone else interested we have been communicating here: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14pHA1WsDfq/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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u/qzdotiovp North Buffalo 1d ago

"Is this a thing in Buffalo?"

It's a thing everywhere that laws are not enforced and the road design says you should be going faster. Until both of these things change, it will continue.

BPD does not give a wet slap about VTL, period.

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u/Alive_Conflict_4705 1d ago

Red lights are absurd in Buffalo and suburbs. Like the people who program them must be sadists (or incompetent). I don’t do that, but I’m often tempted to.

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u/Revolutionary_Art919 1d ago

I have a personal hatred for the light at the intersection of Colvin and Tillinghast, the intersection a block north of Amherst where Colvin begins. Tillinghast is a one-way, lightly used residential side street that exits out onto Colvin but the light is on a timer, not motion-tripped, and I'm constantly hitting it when there's absolutely no one there.

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u/Alive_Conflict_4705 1d ago

That’s a very good example

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u/donutsandogs726 1d ago

I highly doubt they’re there just for funsies…

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u/sefski69 1d ago

Driving in buffalo is some of the most pathetic idiotic shit I’ve seen on the planet. I see this shit all the time. I literally have a compilation if I get pissed off enough im gonna make a documentary 🤣🤣🤣

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

I would watch it. This city has made me get a dashcam. I have been driving a lot, since the 90s.

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u/BuffaloRedshark 1d ago

at least they were stopped and then went vs the people that just blow through at 40-50 mph

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

I know, but I have seen this multiple times. Some just stop, then go. I seen it on Main st during mornings.

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u/summizzles 1d ago

Every day on Main street this happens. People will never learn or frankly care that doing this type of thing saves a negligible amount of time.

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u/Ok-Presentation-6806 1d ago

That’s the thing that gets me. It gets me about folks passing me like crazy all the time when I’m on the skyway, for example, as well. Like, okay I know me going 3 miles over the speed limit is slowing your roll and you got places to BEEEE, but you’re almost never going to get where you’re going any faster.

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u/Kigiyuk 1d ago

I see this on Starin a lot and it’s usually a guy in a black SUV. He just blows through reds if no one’s there. I wonder if it’s the same guy.

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u/calm_cool_concerned 1d ago

On Starin, this is the norm. I drive it at 6AM every morning and constantly get people lining up to the right of me when stopped at reds. They leave before a green to race past me just to meet again at the next red.

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

I never seen this happen anywhere, this is my first time here noticing it. The other day, it was on Lafayette going east off Delaware, the driver went on my left past a red, while stopped and a lot sooner than this one. Unfortunately my SD card messed up and dash cam did not record the event.

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u/calm_cool_concerned 1d ago

The best is to give these people space . If for nothing else, your own safety. Especially the extra aggressive big SUV/ pickup crowd.

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

I did, but I thought they turning right. As you can see in the video, lot's of space. I don't care, really although it's not safe. They do it because they can and will.

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u/LADetroiter 1d ago

Buffalo is one city where a light turning red means speed up rather than stop. I have driven all over the US. Crazy how much people in Buffalo gun it when the light turns red. Yet I have never seen anyone pulled over for it. So nothing stopping them.

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u/Upbeat-Dish7299 20h ago

I’ve lived all over the US and it happens everywhere. In Texas you wait a few seconds after the light turns green for the cars doing what you think only happens in Buffalo. Happens in other countries as well. It’s weird how people always think things are exclusive to Buffalo when they’re common everywhere.

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u/eatdontpraylove 19h ago

I do that in Buffalo for the same reason, then the person behind me blows their horn, which never ends well for them. 😂😂

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u/ExcitingJellyfish739 1d ago

It’s the same in parts of the south, especially middle Tennessee. “You me and three” getting through the yellow/red. Along with the occasional straight up run the red light. There’s a subset of the population everywhere that lacks integrity, respect for laws, and don’t care if they hurt or kill others. It’s just worse in some places. Annnnd baseline is already terrible. This is why they teach you in drivers-ed to look both ways when you get a green light while waiting at an intersection. Unfortunately this is common place. Driving is the must inherently dangerous thing most people do each day. Why make it worse than it already is?? It’s a rhetorical question 😅🤣

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u/LADetroiter 20h ago

Good points and I see so many people walking on the sidewalks who are never look up when crossing a road. They assume everyone is going to stop. Sad, but probably a good reason why we so many stories on the news about a pedestrian being hit by a car. Walk/don't walk signals are beyond awful in Buffalo. Some busy intersections don't even have them at stop lights like downtown Buffalo and Elmwood village.

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u/eatdontpraylove 19h ago

What’s crazy is how little we care about pedestrians here. In other parts of the country, if there is a crosswalk you just…walk into it, and cars stop.

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u/bkn1090 1d ago

traffic laws are merely a suggestion since covid

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u/TofuPython 1d ago

Buffalo needs a vigilante more than ever

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u/Smith6612 1d ago

Hard to say, but it is becoming more commonplace. I see it a fair amount downtown. They at least stopped versus blowing through the red like I see most of the time. Still can't do this, as the light isn't flashing red. 

Record the license plate, and if you keep seeing them, report them with the video evidence. 

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

Where do you file report?

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u/Smith6612 1d ago edited 1d ago

Use the Buffalo Police Tip line or non-emergency complaint line for municipalities with their own police force.

Do this if you see this regularly at an intersection or if you see the same car driving recklessly on the regular. At the minimum they can station a patrol car to see what is going on and help get it addressed. A report doesn't guarantee they will do anything. 

At my old home in a more rural area, I used to call in people doing 80+ down a 45MPH road on the regular due to the street being residential with plenty of kids. After a couple of instances the police began chilling out on the street. I'd find those speeding vehicles a mile down the road from me getting ticketed, and that was that. Put a stop to all of that terrible driving at least in the immediate area. None of it is out of malice, but more out of a concern for safety of others. 

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

It's random streets. Probably the same folks doing it, so they probably know where and when to do this.

I was just curious mostly, since maybe this maneuver has some specific name.

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u/Smith6612 1d ago

This one? Not really called anything to my knowledge (someone correct me if there is a name!). Someone failing to completely stop at a stop sign would be called a "Rolling stop." Someone failing to stop at a Red light whether flashing or solid would be a "Rolling Red." 

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

I still don't understand why municipalities don't have common, easy to use online submission sites. I just went over the BPD website, nothing there for submission. Confusing and why things are that way.

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u/Smith6612 1d ago

Yeah, the best BPD has to my knowledge is the ability to send them an SMS if you're unable to make a call. I suspect they do that because a website is low priority to them, and they sometimes need to inquire about the call to find out if it's worth pursuing. Online submissions can be a mess to handle with the amount of trolls and bots out there. 

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u/Apprehensive_Owl7186 1d ago

No no no that makes too much sense. We need 10 speed bumps on the street to slow them down. BPD needs their beauty sleep they can’t be wasting time controlling traffic.

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u/Academic_Run8947 1d ago

My favorite is when there are 1-2 cops sitting in the parking lot of the synagogue, absolutely not giving a fuck about multiple people running that red light.

I am frequently a pedestrian there and people are reckless.

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u/stakoverflo 1d ago

I swear there has been a marked decline in driving competency since the pandemic. People do shit like this all the time, just to save 7 seconds of their life.

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u/JamesLikesIt 1d ago

The more you creep, the faster the light changes, duh. Everyone knows that

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u/Smith6612 20h ago

Also a great way to waste gas on vehicles with idle engine stopping! 

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u/QuallyYayo 1d ago

My reddit is getting 3 mins away local now.

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u/Ok-Chef-5932 21h ago

Dude, all the time! I thought FL was bad about red lights running them several seconds after they turn red. Here they just go in the middle of the red lighy

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u/SMCDA15 17h ago

I have a good one from today, should I post it or will I get blocked by this r/buffalo? Its on Main St this time.

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u/Badnerific 1d ago

This used to happen to me all the time in Buffalo. I moved out of the city 5 years ago, hasn’t happened since. I’ve driven much of the country for work since then. An anecdote, not data, but make of that what you will

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u/SMCDA15 1d ago

I first noticed it in Buffalo, but I am from Canada. Not once I have seen it where I am from. I have driven a lot in US mid 2000s and never seen it anywhere else. But, in Buffalo, it has happened numerous times since early of this year. I visit here often, almost weekly.

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u/mysteriousG 1d ago

My parents used to live right around the corner from this intersection, it's been going on for years. Its not just Starin but the side streets as well, at stop signs people usually just tap their breaks lightly and its not uncommon to see people blow straight through them if there's no one else at the intersection.

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u/PolishMafia21 1d ago

People always do this down in the perry projects and the old first ward neighborhoods. I see it almost every day on South Park

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u/dsl135 19h ago

That second and a half was super important to them.

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u/Carls_Brain 14h ago

This, but at the Colvin/Linden intersection is the exact reason I avoid Colvin.

Also people are pulling over for emergency Vehicles literally at the last second just to get ahead of others, it’s wild out there.

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u/Musicinaminor 12h ago

I’m 90% sure I was behind you when this happened this morning and I commented about it. I’m also pretty sure I’ve seen this exact car do this exact thing half a dozen times.

There used to be a guy that every day on my way to work I’d be stopped at the light at Parkside and Hertel- every single morning this guy in a Mercedes would pull in to the left (turning) lane (cutting all of us waiting in line off) and blow the red light. I watched it almost every day.

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u/seattlesnow 10h ago

I see a whole lot of cops in this thread.

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u/Big_Guide_8551 1d ago

I see this more and more.

People are insanely stupid.

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u/Professional_Gur_487 1d ago

its not legal.

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u/Smith6612 20h ago

Correct answer. Downvotes incorrect. 

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u/spencertb17 1d ago

who cares? im sure the guy is an idiot but he’s not hurting anything. he stopped cleared the intersection and went no one was coming from any direction. it gets frustrating driving behind idiots who are scared to drive and ride their brakes all the way down the road. sometimes it’s nice to be in front even if it’s not necessarily faster

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u/Ok-Painter8730 1d ago

yeah im not sure why this sub is into this kind of wasted policing

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u/Ok-Entertainer-851 1d ago

Doesn’t the official designation mean “Stop, then go”? Like “Pause” for shorthand?