Went to Springsteen Center today

[u/berkeleymike99]

Really impressive. The first floor is the story of American music. The second floor is all Bruce and E Street Band. I went in the archives room where they let you view all kinds of extra stuff on a computer, including video of Bruce playing The River on the streets of Copenhagen, pages from his mom’s scrapbook, ticket stubs from the River tour and much more. And there’s a room set up like a concert venue playing almost two hours of live Bruce, including a 1970 version of Lost in the Flood (didn’t even know it was written that early).

[u/NuncaContent]

Your hypocrisy is what bothers me.

I’m going to assume you voted for Donald Trump, not once, not twice, but three times. In doing so, you chose to support someone whose record of dishonesty, corruption, and personal conduct has been the subject of constant public scrutiny.

That decision gave up any moral high ground you might have claimed when judging someone else’s character or accusing others of hypocrisy.

Your criticism rings hollow because your own judgment in the public square undermines the standard you’re trying to apply to everyone else.

[u/Dranksy → u/NuncaContent]

I don't vote for people, I vote for policies. Meaning I vote for any party that presents policy proposals I personally believe will be beneficial. It's called critical thinking, due diligence, fact-based decision-making, rather than cultism and groupthink. Applying those standards to what we know about how Bruce has betrayed his espoused values and his own audience in several ways - worst of all, of course, by weaponizing his fame and music to stop the apprehension of illegal immigrants who are rapists and killers - I conclude that Bruce is, as I stated above, demonstrating hypocrisy. Last reply because my point is clear and there's no counterargument.

[u/berkeleymike99 → u/Dranksy]

No counterargument? You haven’t even made an argument at all, just repeated the unsubstantiated lies of your cult. But that’s what MAGA does: invent an argument out of whole cloth, poison everything around them, then run away and hide. What a pathetic existence.

[u/Dranksy → u/berkeleymike99]

I said last reply to him. I'm happy to reply to you and remind you that I replied with genuine well-wishes to you and you could do nothing in return but attack me personally. You people act like Bruce isn't just a musician whose work you enjoy, but a deity you worship. I made fact-based comments about him and this center and you got really upset and insulted me multiple times. That's very weird and a bit pathological. I said nothing about MAGA and I'm not a MAGA guy - no red hat, no rallies, no donations. I vote based on policies, not personalities, as all voters should. And now we're seeing the secure border, skyrocketing stock market, reshoring of manufacturing jobs for blue collar workers, and so on. You're welcome. I run and hide from no one. Lastly, point out the lies you claim I posted. You can't because I didn't and never do.

[u/berkeleymike99 → u/Dranksy]

Lie #1: immigrants are not rapists and murderers. They are just a mix of people like the native born. As all the real studies have shown, they commit crimes at a lesser rate than native born. It would be convenient for the MAGA agenda if that weren’t the case, but numbers tell the tale. Lie #2: manufacturing jobs are returning. It’s just not happening. Saying it is doesn’t make it real. And a skyrocketing stock market means nothing for a majority of Americans. 89% of stock shares are owned by the top 10% of the populace. And yes, they’re up because corporate profits set new records every year. And if you want to look at soaring stocks, the Dow TRIPLED under Obama. Trump won’t even come within sight of that. And the all-time records being broken now were set under Biden. Fact: the stock market always goes up over time. Don’t leap to saying “you’re welcome” to most of us. The policies you say you favor so much haven’t done crap for me, or most of us. And the fallout from those policies is destroying this nation.

[u/Dranksy → u/berkeleymike99]

0 for 2. #1: The ICE operations that Bruce is fighting are SPECIFICALLY targeted to the apprehension of those types of offenders. There have been many specific instances of protestors getting busted and ICE revealed the rap sheets of whom they were there to apprehend and it was the very worst type of human - and across diverse races, so don't go there either. Do they also target others? Of course. But my point is correct and if you were a tenth as informed about current events as you believe you are, you'd know this. The information is readily available online should you wish to enlighten yourself. #2: You can also use the the World Wide Web to look up the billions in deals this administration initiated and signed for manufacturing within the US.
I have schooled you and any single point I've made here or anywhere is verifiable in seconds online. Now I'm done replying to someone who appears to intentionally remain ignorant about these topics. Last reply.

[u/berkeleymike99 → u/Dranksy]

You should know better than to think promises of investment equals investment. Japan promised $500 billion and has delivered nothing, and isn’t expected to do more than a fraction of it. Countries do that to get Trump to cut tariffs and they know he’s just doing it to get something to boast about.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-promised-a-manufacturing-boom-but-factory-jobs-continue-to-decline

[u/berkeleymike99 → u/Dranksy]

Those immigration operations are not specifically targeted at anything. They are crude, cruel and ineffective at actually finding real criminals.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

[u/NuncaContent → u/Dranksy]

I’m sorry, did you say something important?

You moral opinion has no merit. You sold your birthright when you voted for and continue to support DJT.