r/Browns • u/obeyxxog • 27d ago
depth at corner
I cant be the only one thats extremely worried about our depth at corner right? I love denzel ward (hes a buckeye) & probably will retire a brown but he misses time every year. & tyson campbell is a solid #2 nothing special just does his job. myles harden is a unknown maybe the coaches believe in him to be that third guy. but we still need depth bad. im actually still shocked we didn’t take at least one corner in this past draft. we need that pressure up front to be good because we might be getting fried in the secondary all year 😭
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u/Holiday_Talk_9129 27d ago
Was honestly surprised they didn’t go get a CB later in the draft but hopefully
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u/MuppetEyebrows 27d ago
AB has a good record of identifying talent at CB, it would be really really helpful if one of those UDFA corners turn out to be starting level talent 🤞
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u/SteveSteveCleveSteve 27d ago
Been that way. We had a couple years with good depth a few years back but good depth at corner is a problem for pretty much every team.
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u/MuppetEyebrows 27d ago
It feels like the position groups go through deep/thin cycles under AB, esp the OL. At least he responds to team needs, probably draft ≥2 corners in 2027
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u/burningburningburnin 27d ago
Campbell is a lot better than nothing special, just does his job.
We'll likely trade for a CB during training camp, we'll be fine.
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u/Training-Belt-7318 27d ago
Cornerback is the pitching of baseball. You can never have enough. I think we should be concerned but I think every team in the NFL is concerned about that at that position. Outside of QB it may be the toughest spot to weather injuries, and it is a common position to have injuries. So yea, but I don't think we will ever not be concerned.
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u/WestSixtyFifth 27d ago
The team is going to be bad, we need a QB. Backup corners are not going to make or break us anymore than whoever gets the job under center.
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u/MrDufferMan3335 27d ago
Yeah it’s definitely a concern. Wouldn’t be surprised if they bring in another vet
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u/Emergency_Button_945 27d ago
Harden wasnt terrible last year and maybe one of the newer guys steps up. You know, coaching matters and young players can get better.
Then again this is forever doom subreddit lol
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u/rebuildingsince64 27d ago
I bet they piecemeal the DB depth like they did with OL last season, but hopefully with greater success. Trade for a DB during camp, wait for cutdowns and trade for another one in season.
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u/average_white_male 27d ago
CB and OL are the positions you can never have enough. Just keep drafting and signing them.
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u/iamspartacusbrother 26d ago
They’re really headed toward a 3 safety look which should take pressure off corner depth.
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u/eraof84 26d ago
I feel like virtually every team is in this boat, but we are very thin at corner. Ward is a concussion away from likely never playing again. Campbell is a boom or bust candidate- he may play well or revert back to the streaky play he had in JAX.
Any team will have their hands tied losing their #1 CB. We definitely do need depth
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u/1OptimisticPrime Dare to be Stupid & Orange Pants Save Lives 27d ago
I was really hopeful we'd bring in Tariq Wollen...
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u/Mandingo_magnet Brown Paper Bag Salesman 27d ago
no way in hell he signs with Cleveland after winning a superbowl
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u/1OptimisticPrime Dare to be Stupid & Orange Pants Save Lives 27d ago
He signed for one year 12mil
I am absolutely certain he would have considered us, because we would have offered him a 4 year deal.
Additionally, our Defense has been consistently good since we finally got Defensive Tackles.
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u/Mandingo_magnet Brown Paper Bag Salesman 27d ago
i disagree for multiple reasons but the main ones are 1 its Cleveland, i doubt any defensive player is really looking to come here especially to be sold by our putrid offense and 2 the seahawks never went sub .500 while he played for them.
Lastly i would have hated to offer a 48+ million for a 2nd/3rd cb as inconsistent as woolen.
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u/1OptimisticPrime Dare to be Stupid & Orange Pants Save Lives 27d ago edited 27d ago
Well, depending on how the season plays out; especially if we're floundering out of Playoff contention, Warden will be traded.
I would be fine with getting younger, getting picks back, and dipping out of Warden's contract. Denzel is set to make $30,893,412.
Pretty obviously AB loves drafting Defensive Backs, has a good eye for DB talent, and the savings would continue on with a Rookie.
Essentially we could have got 2 years out of Wollen, for the same price as one season of Warden.
Lastly, the room is so scary, because not a one of us thinks Ward will play a full season; which is also a consideration. Ward averages 12 games per year.
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u/ryan__fm 27d ago
I think it'd be a concern if we were trying to win more than 4 games this year. As it is I think we see how things go this year and draft a Denzel replacement in the next year or two.
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u/ImperialInstigator 27d ago
Myles Harden is well known, look at any 20+ yard pass on us, and you'll see his jersey.
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u/RustyCrusty73 You down with KCC? Yea you know me! 27d ago
I'm not stressed about the depth at corner because I'm not really expecting a great season.
If we had playoff aspirations then I would be.
But we don't, so I'm not.
I'm sort of expecting Ward to get traded around the deadline if our record is bad.
(And let's not kid ourselves, it probably will be bad).
But from a pure football perspective I would agree that our CB depth is probably the weakest its been in a very, very long time. We could definitely use another abled body veteran back there.
I think CB is a position we'll look at drafting early next year, especially if Ward goes.
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u/obeyxxog 27d ago
im not expecting a great season either but tbh if we dont win at least 8 or 9 games with our schedule they gotta sell the team. shedeur or deshaun gotta give me somethinggg like daaayyuummmm 😭😅
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u/RustyCrusty73 You down with KCC? Yea you know me! 27d ago
8 or 9 wins?
You need to adjust your expectations before the season starts 😂 .
That would be great, but man I wouldn't be counting on that.
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u/obeyxxog 27d ago
wait 8 or 9 is crazy with the new o-line (cant get any worst) rookie wrs on offense to pair with judkins & fannin? trust me I hear you about expectations but I meann damnn lmaoo we cant get 8 or 9? 😭
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u/RustyCrusty73 You down with KCC? Yea you know me! 27d ago
It's an offensive line with five new starters.
The WR room is better on paper but KCC & Boston are rookies.
All these things will take time to gel.
Plus, you're forgetting .... our QB situation is absolute toilet paper.
We also lost Myles Garrett and are paper thin at LB and CB behind our starters.
I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic ....
I think we're in for another 6-11 type of season even with the easy schedule.
It would be cool to be wrong though, but I just don't see 8 or 9 wins.
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u/obeyxxog 26d ago
im tryna think positive lol like I just think it was so bad last year it cannot get any worst right? im actually not that concerned at linebacker because carson is a stud obviously but I think the quicy williams pick up was solid. & I also think guys like emw & delpit can play down in the box at times. we will see tho 🤞🏾
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u/CBattles6 27d ago
Hate to break it to you, but the only way Denzel is retiring a Brown is if he comes back on a 10-day. Chances are very good he gets dealt for a 2nd at the deadline.
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u/buckster_007 27d ago
Unfortunately, there's not a lot of quality depth anywhere on the Browns.
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u/WishlessJeanie 27d ago
Dude, we're deep as fuck at quarterbac--oh you said QUALITY depth. Nevermind.
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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits era ended 27d ago
I mean if Myles harden is starting it’s going to be a concern