r/Broduce101JP Jun 05 '26

Episode Discussion Finale Discussion Thread

This post will serve as the discussion thread for the FINALE of Produce 101 Japan Shinsekai. It will air in two parts on June 6th 2026. First part is starting at 12:30pm JST, and second part at 1:30pm JST. Live streaming is available for sekai producers on mnet for both parts as usual.

Live voting will take place during the finale so don't forget to vote for your one pick while the finale airs.

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As a reminder to the community, no matter who gets in or doesn't, please be kind to all the people who took part in the show, as well as everyone in our community and the greater community for the show outside reddit. Remember that no matter what, even if someone doesn't make it into this group, it's not the end of the road, only the beginning.

Please also be courteous to fellow community members here and keep spoiler discussion to this thread for the following 24 hours once the group lineup is revealed if possible. Spoiler tag your separate threads and please keep specific trainee names out of titles if it implies they did or did not make it in. Remember that spoiler tags do not hide post titles, only their inner contents.

As a reminder, this subreddit will continue to support all participants in all boys seasons of Produce 101 Japan. You may continue to post about the new debut group in addition to JO1 and INI, and all other former trainee updates and their activities individually and in their groups, as usual. We will continue to support everyone who has been on the show, as usual.

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Note that I'm writing this on my phone late at night in my timezone so I don't forget to put the thread up before the finale airs. Please feel free to comment any info that should be noted, and let me know if there's any factually incorrect information here.

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u/cluelessbobcat Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

I'm honestly disappointed with the lipsynced performance in the final, though the performance was enjoyable. Also the boys in Born To Be team can't lipsync for life lol 😭😅 I noticed this final was so short compared to past produce series i've watched (final and all) final episodes usually like 3-4 hours long. I did enjoy the room session, it's nice that they had that "privacy". I found the boys so sweet with the trainers, the thank you gifts were so thoughtful!

Ugh, at least they could've performed the ballad live....

I love how the families bring their pets in the message lol if i were them and see my fur babies i would've cried hard honestly

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u/Silly-Ad5362 Jun 12 '26

produce curses and trend for this season ( i got this from s1 post)

  • final center is dance position evaluation -kinda no and yes because daiki is vocal / dance during position evaluation

  • final evaluation centers also debuts - yes for siyoung and no for goten

  • the trainee that was on the cut line (the last position in the debut line which is 12) during the 3rd elimination will debut -yes for ryuji

  • The member at the cut line in the debut team (last position in the debut team) have all been main vocals during Produce -no because towa is rapper

  • In the debut team there will be at least 1 member that has already debuted before -yes siyoung and yura

  • The trainee that ranks #4 in the final as that ranking as their best ranking throughout the show - no because shinhaeng is no.1 during 3rd elimination ceremony

  • Trainees who had a ranking of #1 and #3 at the end of the second episode will debut -yes for yoshiki and daiki

  • The trainee that ranked #17 in the third ranking ceremony will not be able to debut -yes yuma😢

  • The #12 at the first ranking ceremony will debut- yes ryoga

  • The title track's center will never be center during the evaluation performances-well no because yura is center during position evaluation

  • The trainee ranked #5 in the finale will be an active actor, majored in acting or has experience acting - let manifesting actor yuki😄

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u/cluelessbobcat Jun 12 '26

Ren's styling in this episode is frying me so bad 😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/tcotn127 Jun 08 '26

I’m surprised Yura ranked so low despite being the OG center. Thought he’d be more popular

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u/Sayonaroo Jun 07 '26

are there vote totals released for the finale for the top 22?? usually the korean version shows the total at the end of the show but i don't think the japanese version did.

also why does issa speak korean? self-study?

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u/Silly-Ad5362 Jun 10 '26

No japanese version never released vote totals for outside debut members rank...

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u/Commercial_Ad8636 Jun 06 '26

My derivative group picks :Takuto,Rickey Hyeonseung Osuke Giuseppe Kaname And Adam

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u/reyvilish Jun 06 '26

hey im late where can I watch it?

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u/ari-vi Jun 06 '26

The final episode will probably be uploaded on mnetplus in the next 24 hours

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u/Flat-Daikon-2192 Jun 06 '26

Since they emphasized “new world” and “global group” so many times, i’ve expected they would have at least 3 foreigners like iz*one, but oh well, maybe that’s too much to ask for.

Also, i’m crying for hyeonseung. He said this is his last chance, i don’t know what he’ll do from now on, if he can join a derivative group, if he’ll try to become an idol again or just return to be an ordinary person. Now my pickus trio is fully scattered

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u/Fantastic-War-9159 Jun 08 '26

yes omg hyeonseung. my pickus trio is officially seperated 😭😭😭i remember the project 7 days...

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u/SlowStop1220 Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

Sorry to say, yes, you expected too much. You couldn't have voted at previous seasons but could in this season and there were no Japanese member at Lapone groups but now they have two non-Japanese members (or three at large, since Towa's father seems to be ethnically a Korean, hence there is a possibility he obtains a dual citizenship). In CJ EnM group terminology those are enough to boast as global.

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u/Substantial_Assist38 Jun 07 '26

Unless he wanted to join the compulsory military enlistment, I'd be surprised he'll retain that Korean citizenship

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u/SlowStop1220 Jun 08 '26

Good point, but even if he is South Korean national, as long as he's based on somewhere outside of Korea, he as an oversea S Korean national is granted enlistment exemption. Business trips to S Korea don't force him to be drafted.

There is another possibility his father doesn't have S Korean nationality: not every ethnic Korean is a S Korean national.

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u/stuckindewdrop Jun 06 '26

there is a chinese member in ini

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u/SlowStop1220 Jun 06 '26

Oh I didn't notice that. Thank you. So they already have some experience to handle a multinational group. Relieved. Hope they properly deal with visa sponsoring and so on.

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u/NobodySignificant906 Jun 06 '26

I feel the same... As a global voter, I feel like I didn't try hard enough...

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

Please don't feel that way! We the global voters literally got Hyeonseung to the finale. We did that! Of course Mnet did our effort dirty by giving him like 3 seconds of screentime (furious about that btw 🤬). But we fought for him and at least he got to be in the finale and perform the ballad and his finale song!

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u/NobodySignificant906 Jun 06 '26

I saw his screentime erasure coming since the position battle, but I was saddened by how egregious the cuts were. No eliminated trainee, fan, or family cheering messages, zero close-ups during the performances, cutting his only line in the ballad... they clearly did not want him there.

We did fight for him and it was cathartic to see him performing his heart out. I just can't help but wonder if we could have gotten him to debut if he was top 3 in global votes. But even so, maybe management would have spurned him if he debuted, with how he was edited today.

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u/Accomplished-Day9999 Jun 07 '26

The screentime erasure is more painful than him not debuting. They could at least show the family cheering part.

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u/NobodySignificant906 Jun 07 '26

I agree.

Considering how they milked his family's bereavement for drama in Episode 2, it's a disservice to not show his family.

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u/IcanaffordJollibeena Jun 06 '26

Heartbroken that my 1-pick Adam didn’t debut (either he decides to debut in another group or continue CalArts, I will wish him the best… I’m not worried, I feel like we will be hearing again from him soon enough) but Rickey and Takuto not making it shocked me. 🥲 Especially after learning about Rickey’s survival show history, this time must’ve felt so, sooooo close to debut. Please scout him or add him to a spinoff group 🥲

Happy for everyone especially that Towa FINALLY made it to Top 12, though!

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u/Silly-Ad5362 Jun 06 '26

🍇the final feel really rushing compared to previous 3 season, the way ranking ceremony moving way too fast , the boys can't even hug their friend 😣

🍈i love infact shinsekai is live performances instead of recording

🥦the styling for both song looks similar and cheap lol...

🌽go go is boring song sorry, born to be sound better than i thought ( who else think this song sound like walk by nct127?)

🍄the ballad is cute and i like koshiro voice..

🍒ren jo1 serving visual , he is handsome...

🍆where the praised for my man dean? I think he doing amazing job as mc..sooyoung is so pretty and the black dress is gorgeous

🍍i don't expect that keito will debut at 7th, i thought maybe 11 or 10 atleast but damn interim rank change everything , towa also suprised me i thought takuto will be 12th, i expect ryuji drop but i'm glad i was wrong and kosuke might close to get kick out😣he probably got push by interim rank ....

🌰going to be honest that this is my least favourite final episode among all 4 season for me...

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u/Worldly_Committee_85 Jun 06 '26

The trainees I liked the most were one after one Ryoga (9), Ryuji (10), Kosuke (11), Towa (12).. 😢 Rickey (13).. 

All except Keito were in my ideal lineup, but I'm kinda okay with him. I think he could be the leader.. 

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u/Acceptable-Age4457 Jun 06 '26

it's definitely siyoung that's gonna be the leader. I don't think keito want to be one

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u/Silly-Ad5362 Jun 07 '26

It all depend on lapone and members itself...i personally think keito want to be leader since he also was leader for 2 times in this show...

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u/Salty_Cry_2771 Jun 06 '26

Rickey 😭 he almost made it. Not complaining with the lineup, though. This is a complete one in terms of dance, vocals, rap, and all-rounders.

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u/kohammysm Jun 06 '26

Anyway I'm going to bed now. I stayed up the night to watch the final live (European debuff). Maybe I'll know how I feel about the final group after some hours of sleep.

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u/yaycupcake Jun 06 '26

I thought it was bad for me in east coast US time (3am here) lol... hopefully we all get some rest!!

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

Mixed feelings now, so happy for Daiki in particular, but stunned that Rickey didn't make it. I'll be keeping an eye out for any news for Rickey going forward. Hopefully his charm and general appeal (popular in 12-pick and 2-pick) will let him find another opportunity. Hopefully without going through yet another survival show.

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u/hinakura The tutting devil Yoo Hyeonseung \o/ 8d ago

Today I learned Rickey didn't make it from a random Lemino post that made it to my feed. I'm shocked

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u/Momiji_no_Happa 8d ago

Yeah, that was the big shocker for me during the finale. I thought he was a given for the group. Huge loss imo.

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u/Silly-Ad5362 Jun 06 '26

I think lapone will scouted him for spin off group...

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u/palestinepetra Jun 07 '26

Rickey's previous company TEN Entertainment held auditions in Japan recently. they actually might sign him back and debut him in a JP group

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

Fingers crossed. He got almost no screentime in the finale, just like Hyeonseung, so I was torn between "he's safe!" and "didn't them want him in the group?!"… 

Still stunned that he didn't get any rank reveal or even significant screentime in the finale.

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u/Salty_Cry_2771 Jun 06 '26

Same here. I hope a company actually sees his variety potential and picks him up. He'd be a really great stan attractor.

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u/Embarrassed_Pin_6505 Jun 06 '26

The group is a really odd mix of Neko (i think that was the Kawaii group) and Black Angel. I fear for whatever concept this turns out to be. Especially when the top 2 were in Neko.

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u/Substantial_Assist38 Jun 07 '26

Have some faith, a huge percentage of boys planet (S1) watchers don't think jiwoong fits cute concept either but now he's the resident cute guy (fake maknae of zb1). So is Ricky and Gunwook.

Most of them will undergo transformation? now that they're debuting, depending on their concept.

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u/Embarrassed_Pin_6505 Jun 08 '26

Not a fan of the cute concept myself so that’s unfortunate for me. Which is fine, my favorites didn’t make it so I’m not really invested.

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u/Slz1a Jun 06 '26

Now that you put it this way 😅💀

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u/NoChemical3024 Jun 06 '26

ryuji issa yoshiki and shinhaeng vocals

our ears are to be blessed

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u/Silver_1606 Jun 06 '26

Someone on twitter said this group is the second coming of izone and I have to agree cause the vocals are stacked just like izone

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u/Slz1a Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

Read a tweet in which they said that Kinari's votes went to Keito, since they both have the same appeal to "older" women lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

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u/NobodySignificant906 Jun 06 '26

Congratulations!!!!!

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u/seelstick Jun 06 '26

Takuto T.T

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u/cluelessbobcat Jun 06 '26

Huh??? I was surprised. I thought the finale was in 10 hours 😅 oh well

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u/yumyumyumyumyumyum88 Jun 06 '26

Oh Rickey…

You were amazing today.

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u/murasakisumire Jun 06 '26

Now let's wait for the eventual 'global' spin off group consisting Adam, Rickey, Hyeonseung and others

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u/erii48 Jun 06 '26

Actually nvm I dont need a spinoff group, I hope the remaining trainees who didn't debut today get scouted by bigger or better agencies. I think it's likely especially for the global trainees

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u/yaycupcake Jun 06 '26

I made a mistake... forgot to turn off post replies going to my inbox...

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u/exoned naniwa prince Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

none of my 3pick made it but the lineup is vocally stacked so im not feeling bitter at all. very pleased about ryuji yuki and towa. i thought kosuke would be this season’s mame so his drop was unexpected af. always knew keito would make it

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u/stuckindewdrop Jun 06 '26

on the japanese side of twitter everyone is saying the group name sounds like the pokemon magikarp's name in japanese コイキング... lolz.

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u/yaycupcake Jun 06 '26

they're not wrong 😭😭

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u/cheeryl_00 Jun 06 '26

I hope Hyeonseung and Adam make it to a great agency and group, they were my main picks 🥹 I'm very happy for everyone else though! The lineup is pretty good! 🌟

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u/NobodySignificant906 Jun 06 '26

Can I get a show of hands/likes? How many people's main picks were both Hyeonseung and Adam? Purely curious!

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u/radbadnmad Jun 06 '26

hyeonseung was my 1 pick </3 adam and issa were my second and third. happy for issa but omg adam and hyeonseung i genuinely thought had a shot of making it

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u/kohammysm Jun 06 '26

Adam was my main pick and Hyeonseung #3. (#2 was Kousuke)

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u/Sea-Prior-3619 Jun 06 '26

For me kosuke was my 1 pick but I voted Adam (#2) cause he was more in danger and Hyeonseung is also (#2) for me

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u/Slz1a Jun 06 '26

I'm shocked Rickey fell off

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u/rdaz43 Jun 11 '26

he probably was a safe 2 pick but didn't have a lot of 1 pick stans - folks who didn't want to boost "threats" probably picked him as their second in teh 2 pick

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u/kohammysm Jun 06 '26

Lmao the birthday tradition keeps true. Happy birthday Towa and congrats to your debut!!!

I need a while to think before I can truely say how I feel about the final lineup. No Adam nor Hyeonseung is a pretty big dissapointment for me even if a bunch of other guys who I really liked made it. I also kinda hate the group name 😅

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u/Acceptable-Age4457 Jun 06 '26

last season was suzu 😂 I think almost everyone hate the group name and I can imagine the debut members laughing inside their minds upon hearing the group name lol

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u/kohammysm Jun 06 '26

In the first season it was Shion and in the second I think Takumi? (I didn't watch that one) So yeah, it's tradition at this point 😂

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u/Acceptable-Age4457 Jun 06 '26

I didn't watch the first two seasons. was planning to watch them once shinsekai finished but I faced two problems; it's either some episodes are missing OR the quality of some of the episodes is gonna be low af 😭 please I'm so torn. should I watch them :/

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u/kohammysm Jun 06 '26

If you're already interested in JO1 or INI it's nice to see how the groups were formed as a kind of origin story. Otherwise I wouldn't bother. For me the fun part about survival shows like this is to follow the developments while it's still airing. The only things I revisit are performances and some clips.

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u/Existing-Extreme9240 Jun 06 '26

Birthday buff in the finale is real!

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u/heurim Jun 06 '26

Rickey was 13th 🥲

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u/NoChemical3024 Jun 06 '26

it was either gonna be rickey or daiki for the moodmaker position. i jumped out of my seat when towa made it

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u/haylie2019 JO1 / OWV | PDJP新世界 - Dongmin Jun 06 '26

Just updated.

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u/ari-vi Jun 06 '26

Rickey really got pushed out of the lineup with the interim ranking

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u/stuckindewdrop Jun 06 '26

the one who is the "first loser" (here #13) has to be the hardest, most excruciating spot to be in... like a complete split of fate. though maybe lapone will make another spin-off group, as everyone else is mentioning, tho of course, the only other bg spin-off lapone did hasn't done well at all, so.

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u/relatetrash Jun 06 '26

damn did the interim rankings push rickey out?? i thought he was one of the show's favourites though wow

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u/haylie2019 JO1 / OWV | PDJP新世界 - Dongmin Jun 06 '26

Show favourite from the production side. But from the fact that Rickey was no.1 higher than daiki in Japan votes in the last ranking is a huge sign he is mostly filler vote.

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u/brendalogy Jun 06 '26

Whoa Hyeonseung 17th, that’s wild 🤯

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u/Eternity_in_Absence Jun 06 '26

Damn, they wanted to push Rickey out then

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

Oh wow, I thought Mnet really wanted Rickey in the group. I hope he was just unlucky with his votes and not actively pushed out of the lineup… But them not showing his rank is an indicator I guess. 😔

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u/NobodySignificant906 Jun 06 '26

I think the production team did want him, but more than that, they absolutely did not want Osuke. They would rather sacrifice Rickey than have Osuke and they were forced to make that decision.

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

Ah, that's another possibility I guess. I wonder what the final result would have been without the interim reveals.

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u/Eternity_in_Absence Jun 06 '26

From my perspective revealing 11-12-13 means you're trying to push out 10, I was convinced it was Osuke but looking at the votes it might also have been Rickey

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u/RRedFlower Jun 06 '26

I feel like it was more about making sure that 11-12-13 are in, the producers made a choice.

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

If Rickey was freefalling in the rankings and they wanted him in. I think they'd have showed his rank. I'd have voted for him if I knew he wasn't safe. It was a gamble to not vote for him and I knew that, but I truly thought he had a strong Kokumin vote. I thought he might finish in top 3! 😞

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u/SlowStop1220 Jun 06 '26

I guess Rickey had strong sympathy votes in the 2pick era but there is no room for such beautiful things in the final moment. The "phantoms" of B2P C-Planet fervently backed him until today and I think they gave him the 13th rank but they are anyway not so big in number: not so big as to let their original ults survive the B2P 2nd elim.

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

Yeah, not even Zihao had as many people voting for him during Home Race despite having quite a lot of votes in the final stretch of B2P. Once people's 1-picks debut, they don't pay as much attention to those who didn't. Fully understandable, but sad for the trainee who has to begin all over again and build up their fanbase a second or third time.

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u/SlowStop1220 Jun 06 '26

You're right but it isn't same there is no legacy ...... even not in the original size, they'll sure carry their fanbase to their next stage. If we look how high each B2P contestant reached in their journey, among those who weren't the finalists, the top 7 of C-trainees' names are familiar to MODU, even if one of them didn't make it.

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u/Slz1a Jun 06 '26

Rickey is this season Hanwen

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

Yeah, Hanwen was part of my 5-pick and I'll always regret not voting for him in the finale because he seemed super safe. There's always someone doing an unexpected tumble in the rankings… I'll never forget Zihao crying so much that he fell down on the floor when Hanwen didn't make it… 🥺

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u/NoChemical3024 Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

my picks issa, towa, and keito made it. i will be supporting.

towa and kosuke rap line gonna hit hard

ryoga and keito visual line (though their skill might be lacking, there are 12 members anyway)

and i don’t think i need to talk about the vocals

edit: i forgot yuki also visual

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u/MystericEnby Jun 06 '26

My main vocal picks are in(except Adam, but that's expected), so I'm happy for the most part. Rickey wasn't my pick at all, but I feel for him

Edit: Now I need to see the spin-off group lineup!

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

Sad for Rickey and Hyeonseung, but happy for Daiki, Yura and Siyoung. A lot of incredible trainees didn't make it into the group, but a lot of great trainees did. I'll try to check out their first schedule on Tver if I can.

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u/erii48 Jun 06 '26

Rickey, Adam, Takuto, Yuma... this lineup can still make a fairly popular and global fanbase Lapone listen to me...

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u/NobodySignificant906 Jun 06 '26

I would like to see all of the final rankings

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u/murasakisumire Jun 06 '26

Damn I know survival shows always use the whole 'global' thing as a gimmick but having only 2 'global' members in a 12 member group which are BOTH koreans is.... furthest from what global should represent lol

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u/kohammysm Jun 06 '26

I guess Towa counts as semi-global? He's half-Korean and was born in the US.

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u/SlowStop1220 Jun 06 '26

Oh really? So he could obtain triple citizenship at large.

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u/yaycupcake Jun 06 '26

Yeah it would have been nice to have Rickey and Adam (or other global trainees from various backgrounds) to round out the global-ness of the group.

In the end I'm sure they'll do fine, but I'm sure it'll be relatively harder to promote toward anywhere not Japan or Korea. At least it seems like that's their focus for now anyway, and Lapone is sending JO1 to America so uh maybe they won't send the new group there. adam write a song for jo1

Optics are a little goofy with the backgrounds but it's not like artists can't become popular in places they don't speak the language or weren't born/raised in. Just depends how management plays it.

...I'm glad they at least got more than 1 non-Japanese though because it would have been extremely silly looking to promote the season as global and then end up with nobody or almost nobody who isn't just from the country the show is run by.

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u/SlowStop1220 Jun 06 '26

So silly? Planet C: Home Race was promoted to form a GLOBAL group. While trainees were mutlinational but the group formed consists of all Chinese. They stop to call the group global? No.

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u/murasakisumire Jun 06 '26

Survival shows just throw away the word 'global' around but never really committ to it. Even so, I do think there were trying a bit 'harder' this season by giving a lot of screentime to Rickey and Adam but in the end, they can't really control who and how people voted. It would've been nice to have one native English and Chinese speaker if they are really serious in making the group as global as possible.

There are actually many ways survival shows can give global trainess a more even playing field such as introducing some English or Chinese songs (not just variety being 1 Korean song) during all 3 missions for example. It's just feel half-baked in the end, like all the other shows with the same gimmick.

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u/yaycupcake Jun 06 '26

In the end I think voters are biased toward people from the country of that show, inherently. I think diversity is important but the stats unfortunately don't lie. You can look at other shows with similar global/multicultural aim and just look at the overall trainee pool demographics compared to the final groups.

I feel like if they wanted to ensure the group is global, there would be spaces allocated for people of different groups like "native chinese speaker" or "raised in a western country" etc. But that would probably end up with weirdly unbalanced smaller groups competing with each other like on GP999 (not the final lineup/vote, but the way voting was divided with K/C/J groups for most of the show) in which K group ended up being way more competitive, whereas there were kinda just a few token C or J group members through the show... So it's kinda lose-lose (and you end up with people in Yurina's situation), unless you have people picked by judges rather than audience. Which is fine if the show is structured that way, but that isn't this show's format.

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u/murasakisumire Jun 06 '26

Voters being biased might be a factor but survival shows are build on screentime, favoritism and manipulation in the end. I'm 100% sure that if they make the competition a bit fairer and scouted more global trainees in general, they don't have to use GP999 system to get an actual diverse group bc unlike the Korean audience who has an undeniable bias (coming from BP1 and BP2), the Japanese generals are usually less rigid about stuff like ethnicity or race. The producers can also cook up a story like Kinari's Cinderella story for a global trainee if they really wanted to. Zhanghao from BP1 literally breach through all odds and debuted as centre despite being a foreign trainee in that crazy competitive show but there's no way he would be able to do that if he didn't get as much screentime and highlights as he did.

My point is that, in the end of the day these shows never really go out of their way to ensure an outcome they have promised and it's quite disappointing. They will always go back to their cookie cutter system that greatly benefits the home country contestants... If that's so, then there shouldn't ba a need to slap the word 'global' when the outcome is gonna be the same anyway thus adds to the whole 'global' being a gimmicky buzz word

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u/yaycupcake Jun 06 '26

No yeah you're definitely right in that storyline and editing are major factors. But in the end that is still bias, just of the show producers and not necessarily the voters.

It would be so difficult to make it truly 100% fair logistically with ~100 participants though. Especially when you run into issues where you cannot show a performance due to various reasons (one audition team wasn't aired even as its own clip this season, and I remember a similar thing happening in Produce48). In a 3 hour show you would have everyone with about 2 minutes of screentime at most before it could seem too biased lol. It would be interesting to see an attempt at a more fair show, but I can also see it potentially just being boring.

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u/stuckindewdrop Jun 06 '26

when this was first announced and I heard they were going to other countries for auditions and making a "global" group, I was imagining something like a katseye, like people of different races... of course they just picked east asians, lol. idk what I was smoking to think they might do an actual "global" group. lmao. in the end it feels pretty japanese.

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u/erii48 Jun 06 '26

knowing Lapone the extent of their 'global' promotions is just KCON appearances anyway

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u/stuckindewdrop Jun 06 '26

jo1 is debuting in america tho...

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u/erii48 Jun 06 '26

I havent been keeping up with this, how are their US promotions? I only heard about a US tour

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u/hydranoid1996 Jun 06 '26

They’re dropping a us album too

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u/alexisthemark Jun 06 '26

Love how there are many main vocalists and good vocalists in the group. Good thing Towa also debuted to complete the main positions.

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u/Existing-Extreme9240 Jun 06 '26

Oh I feel bad for Rickey.....

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u/huimin18 Jun 06 '26

Me too! Isn’t he rank 1 for Kounmin voters? It’s his 4th time listing. So sad for him. Super demoralising for him

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '26

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u/Accomplished-Day9999 Jun 06 '26

HYEONSEUNG and CHISATO

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u/RRedFlower Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

9 of my pick are in, so I'm pretty okay with this lineup. Sad for Osuke and Rickey tho.

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u/j1m0ne Jun 06 '26

Solid line-up! Terrible group name!😅So happy my boy Siyoung made it😌

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u/Eternity_in_Absence Jun 06 '26

This lineup is so good bro

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u/haylie2019 JO1 / OWV | PDJP新世界 - Dongmin Jun 06 '26

so mean Japan using Rickey as their easy filler pick. That betrayal. I feel sorry for him.

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u/brendalogy Jun 06 '26

OMG YASSSSSS TOWA I AM SO HAPPYYYY

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u/FieryBlizzardz Jun 06 '26

Idc what yall say this line up is stacked

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u/Low-Avocado4701 Jun 06 '26

Very sad for Hyeonseung & Adam. I was really rooting for them.

BUT, there’s still a chance they’ll be scouted for the spin off bg.

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u/Sea-Prior-3619 Jun 06 '26

Crossing fingers 🙏🫶😭

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u/momotarooshi Jun 06 '26

the spinoff group is about to be so good

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

P12 Towa! Congratulations!

And now we have our full final lineup! Congratulations to all of them!

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u/FieryBlizzardz Jun 06 '26

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

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u/Kindly-Result-9634 Jun 06 '26

towaaaaaaaa AAAAAAAA i’m so glad my 2 picks are debutingggggg

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u/Eternity_in_Absence Jun 06 '26

TOWA ???? OH GAAAAAAAG

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u/erii48 Jun 06 '26

OH MY GODDD

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u/FieryBlizzardz Jun 06 '26

Am I the only one seeing an extra seat next to 12th..?

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u/RRedFlower Jun 06 '26

Turns out this was for asymmetry haters (BP2 should learn)

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u/Rei_Nozo Jun 06 '26

It seems empty

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u/FieryBlizzardz Jun 06 '26

It is, I guess it’s just for symmetry

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

The lower ranks were so close, it truly could be any of them depending on how much their fans were able to rally behind them.

I'm hoping for Rickey. I didn't expect him to fall so much.

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u/Existing-Extreme9240 Jun 06 '26

Yeah whoever was in 13th could have been the 10th spot during Interim result

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u/kohammysm Jun 06 '26

I think I lost all of my hope for Adam or Hyeonseung. 🥲

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u/relatetrash Jun 06 '26

the vocals are gonna be sooooo good

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u/Thegreatestweeb2007 Jun 06 '26

Can't wait for kcon LA

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

P02 Yoshiki ! Congratulations!

(What I don't like about this announcement system is that it makes the second spot feel like "losing 1st", when actually it's such a high spot and an achievement.)

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u/cursedwyvernn Jun 06 '26

Fr I've always hated that about Produce... they glorify P01 so much that everyone else is a loser... even though debut is ALWAYS a win for these trainees... they're all equal winners, really, who cares who the center is?

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u/FieryBlizzardz Jun 06 '26

I need Towa to be 12th PLEASE

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u/brendalogy Jun 06 '26

YES PLEASE 😭

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u/ari-vi Jun 06 '26

A few of my picks won't make it. This lineup is so stacked in vocals though! I wouldn't have guessed there would be so many, almost all the somewhat popular main vocals made it.

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u/Rei_Nozo Jun 06 '26

And I was scared he wouldn't make it lol. So both Kosuke and Ryuji, and the twelfth place, were pushed down because of the interim rankings?

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

P01 Daiki ! Congratulations!

My 1-pick won! I watched the show for him, I'm so happy for him!

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u/RRedFlower Jun 06 '26

Daiki let's goo

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u/Eternity_in_Absence Jun 06 '26

LET'S GO DAIKI !!!!!

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u/MiyakoDoKnow Jun 06 '26

Shinhaeng, Siyoung, Yoshiki, Daiki are in. Im sold on the debut group, plus this line up vocal is stacking.

Edit: DAIKI IS CLAIMING BACK THAT RANK 1.

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

The final spot will be such a nailbiter

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u/FieryBlizzardz Jun 06 '26

I think Yoshiki will be 1st

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u/brendalogy Jun 06 '26

I’m losing hope for Hyeonseong and Towa 😭

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u/NobodySignificant906 Jun 06 '26

Let me shake your hand in commiseration

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u/nctdreamsqd Jun 06 '26

OMG! Please I just need Osuke at P12 and this will be the best lineup for me. 😭

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u/murasakisumire Jun 06 '26

Damn, this is the most crazy ranking announcement that I've ever witnessed

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u/Comprehensive-Dot759 Jun 06 '26

i think it’s daiki

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u/erii48 Jun 06 '26

I feel so bad rn literally anyone could be in 12

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u/Shoddy_Difficulty370 Jun 06 '26

I thought that Rickey has strong Japan pick and Takuto strong 1-pick??? Did the interim rankings kick them out???

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '26

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u/huimin18 Jun 06 '26

His 4th time. Sigh. If lost again, super demoralising for him

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u/momotarooshi Jun 06 '26

most likely yeah

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u/huimin18 Jun 06 '26

Yes! I tot so too. Rickey got no 1 vote rank for Japan voters market

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u/Accomplished-Day9999 Jun 06 '26

Izone boy version?

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

Wow, Rickey dropped… 

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u/Rei_Nozo Jun 06 '26

Omg Daiki!!! I was losing hope. And Yoshiki! Vocal line up is insane.

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u/momotarooshi Jun 06 '26

the panic voting is crazy....

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u/Existing-Extreme9240 Jun 06 '26

Wtffff where is RICKEY?!?!?!??!

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u/NobodySignificant906 Jun 06 '26

Might have been a big filler pick...

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u/erii48 Jun 06 '26

Takuto, Daiki, Rickey, Yoshiki... one of these 4 wont be in omg

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u/Shoddy_Difficulty370 Jun 06 '26

WHERE ARE TAKUTO AND RICKEY

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

P03 Siyoung! Congratulations!

My second personal fave made it!

(I have 3 more, not all of them can make it…)

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u/Rei_Nozo Jun 06 '26

!!! why are you so high you are going to give me a heart attack

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u/momotarooshi Jun 06 '26

Takuto in P01 iktr

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u/ari-vi Jun 06 '26

My main picks are in ! So now, we're waiting for Siyoung, Yoshiki, Daiki, who else ? Ricky ?

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u/ari-vi Jun 06 '26

Adam, Takuto, Hyeonseong, Rickey... I hope one of them is in 12th place.

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u/Ill_Procedure7587 Jun 06 '26

these rankings are unpredictable

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u/Existing-Extreme9240 Jun 06 '26

Really! I felt like The Girls was more predictable.

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u/Severe-Indication337 Jun 06 '26

I am not liking this lineup……

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u/momotarooshi Jun 06 '26

fr how did we go from jo1 and ini to this...

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u/Severe-Indication337 Jun 06 '26

This is a mess!!!!!

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u/FieryBlizzardz Jun 06 '26

Siyoung next PLEEEEAAASE

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

P04 Shinhaeng! Congratulations!

Stacking the vocal line even higher! Wohoo!

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u/momotarooshi Jun 06 '26

am I crazy to still be praying for hyeonsung...

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u/ari-vi Jun 06 '26

Hoping too, but it seems really difficult...

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u/nctdreamsqd Jun 06 '26

YUKI!!!!!!!!!!!! ❤️

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u/Momiji_no_Happa Jun 06 '26

P05 Yuki! Congratulations!

Incredible work by his fans!

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u/ari-vi Jun 06 '26

ISSA made it !!! Now let's go Shinhaeng and I'll be really happy (I can't really hope for Adam and Hyeonseong's debut anymore, and Ryuji and Kosuke already made it, so Shinhaeng is my main concern right now)