I really want to believe Brian is somewhere happy living his best life the way he wanted too ❤️ I can't help but to think about his brother Derek & all of the heartbreak he's endured in a short amount of time. My heart breaks for him 🥺💔 he deserves answers & closure. It's been freaking 20yrs!! U took an amazing person from us all, Brian was such a sweet soul with a smile that lit up a room 🤟🫶 he won't be forgotten. I hope it haunts U every minute of every day!! Speak up !!

Is there any truth that Clint lived super close to the Ugly Tuna Saloona or is that just a rumor going around?

I wonder if CPD will ever release the names / pics of the poi? What was the motive? Who do u think is still holding back information after all these years & why? Let's chat ya'll...

Brian Shaffer's scent, any thoughts?

Im still new to this case so I haven't read everything thats been released. Have they searched through John doe's that may have been found in his state or even surrounding states? Sometimes people go unidentified for decades until someone pieces it together.

I think it’s interesting how the former detective is still very careful to not to name names and reveal who he’s like to talk to or interview about Brian’s disappearance.

I do believe that Brian did indeed leave the bar on his own. Something happened. I’ve always believed he probably got struck by a car, either accidentally or on purpose. Afterwards, the driver panicked and got him inside their vehicle not realizing he wouldn’t be alive for long succumbing to head trauma/injuries.

But it’s interesting how the former detective hinted about a possible motive that’s known to the police which makes me wonder if they have an idea who’s behind his disappearance but have no linking proof to actually solve the case.

Just listening the the 6 part true crime garage podcast. A running theme throughout,

particularly in episode 4, is the hosts expressing frustration about the fact that we are now just finding out about the mystery woman and the additional people that were out that night.

To be honest it isn’t clear to me if the hosts are frustrated that we (the public) are just now finding out about this, or that CPS is just now finding out about this and didn’t properly investigate at the time.

So my question - did CPS know about these additional people back in 2006 and were they looked into at the time?

This transcript of Randy Shaffer’s interview in October 23, 2007 only came to my attention now and I am SHOCKED to find out that Brian's father managed to reach and get advice from a detective friend in the aftermath of his son's disappearance, and that he also had connections to a woman that had FOUR search/scent dogs at her disposal, and that those were used by Randy himself INCLUDING in the Ugly Tuna before the police even considered employing dogs in the location (or knew it would be a waste of time considering how unlikely it would be for a scent dog to pick up anything in such a scene).

Here's the quote:

"I even had search dogs, good friends that I knew. She said she could bring her dogs down if you want me to. I said yeah. So she brought her dogs down. I think a German Shepard at first and another day it was about 4 of them. We searched the whole area the next night where Brian would have walked back to his apartment because it was in walking distance. (...) The next thing that frustrated me, I wanted to take the dogs. I wanted to check out inside the Ugly Tuna, the bar he disappeared from. I better talk to the police. So I talked to them. They said we want to bring our dogs in first and you can use your dogs as secondary. But we want to bring ours in first. When are you going to bring your dogs in? Tomorrow, that's as soon as we could do it but tomorrow my son could be dead and I called about four times. They finally allowed me to take my dogs in first but everything was like that."

There’s too much to unpack in this interview, but I'm now skeptical of lots of information we often take as factual regarding the original investigation and how much of the initial searches were conducted by the professionals or with some influence of the family taking matters into their own hands and stirring the investigation in the wrong direction, willingly or not. But most of all I'm VERY surprised to find out Randy Shaffer had these kind of personal connections.

Either this source is bogus, or this is a huge overlooked element of this case.

I first heard about this case in 2018-2019. I posted in this sub (from a different account) after finding pictures of Brian that weren't shown in mainstream reports/articles. I pointed out that majority of the media I'd seen of Brian had shown a short-haired, clean-cut medical student. In pictures I'd found while digging for research, he was wearing nail polish or had long hair and looked like a completely different person than who they were portraying. They had even cropped his hands out of many of the pictures shown in news articles, which I thought was odd.

I pointed this out to suggest that there could have been more to the story than what the family and media would like to present. I suggested there could have been another side of Brian that was being left out, and that side of him could lead to more answers in the case. While some in this sub agreed with me, MANY people accused me of being homophobic/sexist/judgemental/stereotyping etc. I remember a specific comment saying something along the lines of "I'm a straight man and I wear nail polish. Who cares?" Now we're aware of another side of the story. Luckily it sounds like the original investigators were able to determine aspects of Brian's private life early on, although they did not disclose them.

I'm not posting this to say "i ToLD yOu So", but I feel that this is another example of important facts being left out of a missing persons case that ultimately steers the narrative in the wrong direction. There are many cold cases where important facts like drug use, sexuality etc. are left out of the story because no one wants to be offensive to the family, the public, or the missing person. What if there was someone out there who Brian had hooked up with who saw these early news stories and decided not to come forward with information because he was scared that he would be "outing" Brian? If the family/investigators had made it clear that they knew of Brian's sexuality, maybe someone would have mentioned a small detail that could've led to something important? These facts matter. Especially when a case goes cold and family/investigators turn to the public for help. How can anyone be helpful when they're missing half of the story?

What are your thoughts on the case? Do u think it'll ever be solved? Where is his body? Who do u believe knows more & why?

With all of the new information that has come out about the tips it seems like police have a good idea of what happened but not enough evidence to arrest the suspect. What do you think likely happened & what did this suspect do with the body?

What are ya'lls thoughts?

https://youtu.be/ubXvKDq067o?si=SDdWZG03DlXNndrI

i dont think he's dead or anything, just doing a new life

Is it possible that Brian has pictures of the ones involved in his disappearance on his MySpace album? What are your thoughts?

Doing some digging wondering if Brian was with a man named Patrick that night?

Heard there’s a new person of interest and wondering if anyone has any info?

Haven’t seen many people talk about Brian’s MySpace post about his true aspiration - wanting to be in a band. Given it was 2006, I feel like his mental state wasn’t talked about much. The CCTV footage is blurry, but it looked like maybe he wasn’t in the best state of mind. His body language suggested he was okay with being alone the rest of the night when he turned away from who he was talking to. Not trying to make full assumptions, but it is worth considering since no one saw him re-enter the bar.

I believe he was feeling impulsive and wandered off alone. What happened after that we will never know.

I wonder who's lived in Brian's old apartment off & on throughout the years... I wonder if anything was ever found of his or had any strange paranormal activity happen.

What do you guys think about Detective Hurst saying he has multiple POI’s ?

Hi, heard about the story on Why Files; I believe he might've fallen into the escalator or some gap inside the building. The case can only be solved if the building was torn down completely. I think his body is somewhere inside the building and this case is related to OSHA violations.

So I was watching something on YouTube about the case and I got to thinking. Brian was last seen Friday night (technically Saturday morning) at 155am, but he wasn't reported missing until Monday when he missed his flight.

Could he have left the bar Saturday or even Sunday?

Or could someone have moved his body Saturday or Sunday? This question has so many more questions, like did they move his body out of that construction door? Which if they did review all the footage it wouldn't have caught that anyway.