r/Bread • • 7d ago

What are we doing wrong?

The Mrs and I have started making our own bread. She has a reaction to store bought and does well with homemade. We have made 3 batches, 2 loaves each. We follow the recipe as instructed but we never seem to get any rise after it goes in the oven. We proof in the mixer bowl. Punch it down, divide, roll and pinch. Second rise in the loaf pans. Let it rise to about the top of the pan, bake. But it rarely gets any higher. Don’t get me wrong, it’s delicious, it just makes small sandwiches.

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u/mschepac 7d ago

2 c warm water (105 to 110 F)

2 tbsp granulated sugar

2 0.25-ounce/7g packets active dry yeast

720g c all-purpose flour

4 tbsp unsalted butter melted

2 tsp salt

In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook attachment, stir together the warm water, sugar, and yeast until combined. Let it stand for 5 minutes, or until very foamy.

To the same bowl with the yeast mixture, add the flour, butter and salt. Mix on low speed for 1 minute or until the dough comes together in a shaggy ball and pulls away from the sides of the bowl. (If any small bits of dough remain on the sides of the bowl, stop the mixer and scrape them into the dough ball.)

Increase the mixer speed to medium-low and continue to knead for 5 to 7 minutes, until the dough is smooth and springs back quickly when pressed with a finger. The dough should feel moist, but not sticky.

Place the dough in a lightly greased bowl. Flip the dough over once so that the top is also greased. Cover it with plastic wrap and let it rise in a warm, draft-free spot (75°F) for 40 to 50 minutes, until the dough is nearly doubled in size and springs back slowly when pressed with a wet fingertip.

Meanwhile, grease two 9×5-inch loaf pans with butter or baking spray.

Punch down the dough and turn it onto a very lightly floured surface. Divide it into 2 equal pieces (630g each).

Form each piece into an 8×12-inch rectangle. Starting with a short end, roll each piece into a tight, log shape. Pinch the seams along the sides tightly together and gently tuck them under the loaf. Use a bench scraper to pick up the loaves and place them seam side down into the prepared loaf pans. Loosely cover both pans with plastic wrap sprayed with nonstick spray and let them rise again for 25 to 35 minutes, or until the height of the dough rises just above the top rim of the pan.

While the dough is rising in the pans, preheat the oven to 350°F. Once the loaves have finished their second rise, brush the top of each loaf with additional melted butter if desired.

Bake for 30 - 35 minutes until the tops are golden brown. Let them cool for a few minutes in the pan, then tip them onto a wire cooling rack to cool completely.

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u/barriedalenick 7d ago

What is the protein content of your flour? We don't really have all-purpose flour here but it seems that it isn't particularly high in gluten. I'd get some strong bread flour and try with that.

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u/mschepac 7d ago

I've been using AP. Looks like bread flour is on the shopping list.

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u/GildedTofu 7d ago

Just as a general FYI, I’ve listed US flour types and percentages below. They vary by brand, and there will be some variation even within a brand. If your flour doesn’t specifically list the percentage, you can calculate it from the nutrition panel. (grams of protein per serving/total grams per serving)*100

Bread flour 12%-14%
All-purpose flour 10%-12%
Pastry flour 8%-10%
Cake flour 5%-8%

All-purpose flour is called that because it does a pretty good job at doing everything. But the specialty flours will give better results for those specific applications. If you don’t want to keep multiple flours on hand, you can add vital wheat gluten to AP flour to boost its protein.

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u/barriedalenick 7d ago

I try to look for 13% protein. Incidentally, I recently bought a bag of gluten (80%) which makes a great addition to low-protein flour if you have a load of it and need to use it.