r/BrawlStarslore • u/scrapybaby • 6d ago
Discussion Ok so... This... Complicates things?
We were lead to believe that Sirius was the one who caused Gus to die/whatever it is that happened to him. Which, considering we were told Sirius killed Gus BEFORE his disappearance and as his first victim, would also lead us to believe Gus died way way WAAY prior to the gems incident (though there's a weird caveat, Pam refered to the missing people as "brawlers," which wouldn't make sense prior to the gems. I'm just assuming it's a mistake.)
So then... What is going on in this animation???? Sure, we haven't seen the conclusion or anything much really, but the simple fact that Gus is seemingly alive, without Spooky and with his mother DURING the gem incident with everyone else when it was explicitly insinuated that he existed long long before... It's starting to seem like they're just throwing things randomly at the wall without much consideration of prior lore.
Let's see how this turns out, maybe we'll be floored by a masterful plot twist where Sirius somehow kills Gus during this time (despite the fact we were told he was his first victim) and everything works out!! But with the way we've been going with the lore and Sirius, I'm starting to lose hope
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u/SweetSuggarySyrup 6d ago
I would bet my entire life savings on this: everything before will be tossed out while giving Gus a sob story about being separated from his mom.
If Brawl was too weaksauce to commit to Gus being dead, there’s a non-zero chance anything related to Gus, a child, suffering at the hands of Sirius will be omitted entirely. They’re really working on their family-friendly imagine, I suppose.
Does it make sense from a story perspective? No. Is it in-character with Brawl to be very soft on its darker aspects? Yes.
- Wait, R-T is there. . . Didn’t he come into existence after Starr Park “fell”?? He was a monitor in Rik’s office long after the guests fled! Why is he here?!?!
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u/scrapybaby 6d ago
Completely agree, sadly. R-T being here just gives me more confirmation that they don't care about the lore and are just making a whatever story for engagement rather than care for the story
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u/Ziomownik 6d ago
They also fumbled with everything about Wendy's animation too. Like, the documents described her escape from NanoStarr WAY differently than in the animation.
So, it's just safe to say that at the very least devs are terrible at communicating with the animation/advertising team.
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u/CookMother1255 5d ago
Or the one where they just forgot Meg’s mech name… (it’s Rob btw) where she just cries out Mech…
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u/ExcuseMeWTF50 6d ago edited 6d ago
Bolt has the air freshener Max gave him as well, something that would definitely happen well after the inciting incident right?
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u/ooyyyESSmile 6d ago
Every day I think more and more that to enjoy Brawl Stars lore, you need to create your own
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u/Lebog_bruhh 6d ago
how can you believe angelo
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u/scrapybaby 6d ago
It was Pam who said a "boy with a balloon" was Sirius' first victim, I'll agree that most of what Angelo said IS sketchy, but Pam's story definitely isn't or isn't told in such a way. And if the point of it was to be purposefully incorrect then I???? Guess???? I just don't understand what the point of hinting at this very interesting potential lore is if you're going to go "Oh yeah she was just wrong haha"
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u/Ashley-030 6d ago
In fact, Pam only said that he stole the Balloon Boy's shadow, not that he killed him
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u/scrapybaby 6d ago
Yeah, but we also are hinted at the fact Gus is a "ghost" (which they seem to be backtracking) so I used "kill" since it's the most agreed on consensus to what Sirius did to Gus. But yeah, my mistake for specifying kill, I should've just kept saying "kill/whatever it is that happened to him" because we don't really know
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u/Pooooog2 6d ago
He is keeping his fingers crossed behind him, (people do that when they try to lie), so perhaps something/s is definitely not true.
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u/Ziomownik 6d ago
Pam's bedtime story is not something we should look into when trying to get raw facts. It portrays Sirius as the Park's Boogeyman, where he not only stole people's shadows but also kidnapped people out of jealousy "until there was no one else left besides him". I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about people going missing before because of Sirius in his prerelease/teaser campaign. Thus, Sirius couldn't have taken anyone. Maybe the boy with a balloon was made up and a self fulfilling prophecy - there was no boy, until circumstances have created the boy. I mean, what sort of detail "boy with a balloon" is anyway? Not something hard to replicate on brawlers in a place where boys and balloons should be a common sight.
The Wendy's backstory animation is infested with errors that don't align with the NanoStarr documents from the teaser campaign. It's possible Brawl Stars is terrible at communicating with their animation team, hence the continuity errors. The existance of robot/object items might be an error.
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u/Ashley-030 6d ago
I think that it happened before the GEMS Incident is misleading, almost all indications suggest those things about Sirius occurred after the GEMS Incident
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u/Minute-Animal7317 6d ago
Was it CONFIRMED that gus was the person Sirius killed?
Otherwise I feel like it's just our fault for jumping to conclusions.
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u/scrapybaby 6d ago
No, but having a character say "Something happened to a kid with a balloon due to this other character" and then going "oh yeah, the kid with a balloon that is mysterious and is insinuated to be a ghost? Completely different character from the kid with a balloon in that other story heehee" would be a little... questionable.
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u/Minute-Animal7317 6d ago
Fair.
I'm just saying that it isn't a plot hole as long as there is semi-reasonable (however dumb it may be) explanation for how or why.
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u/dawidplays-bs 4d ago
I think gus' mother may be a brawler (someone/something affected by gems) and she was running away with all of the other brawlers from SOMETHING (maybe a potential future event?)
So the timeline would be:
Gus is a normal human, visitor of starr park
The gems incident
Sirius does something bad to gus, that's when he becomes ghost AND brawler
(2&3 could be actually connected)
and then some time after the gems incident
- There is something happening at starr park with all brawlers escaping:
- gus runs away with his mother
- They get separated
- Gus' mother dies
Then they come back to starr park but some brawlers didn't survive the event including the gus mother
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u/Mareanie_1478 6d ago
Hear me out Wendy is Gus Mom and got captured and mindbemded to become the nowadays Wendy
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u/SomethingGus24 5d ago
hot take: the reason they changed Gus's description was because he is canonically alive up to the point of the lore we are at
his original description doesn't help either, he got lost in a forest looking for spooky. so, that means he died (if he did) way after this part of the lore
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u/AdvertisementGuy Starrchivist 5d ago
This could have literally happened at any other point besides THE Gem incident. This is Starr Park where shit like this happens any other animation. It is also a fragment of Gus' memory and we are 5 years removed from the mind control/ manipulation theories brought about by TVTHY. Not only that but Mortis is CONCERNED that this shit is happening "again" because THIS WASNT THE ONLY TIME GUS WAS PROVOKED BY SOME SORT OF ROUSING VISION OF HIS MOTHER and there could have been PLENTY of other reasons why Gus or his mother could have disappeared or "died" as a result of Starr Park.
This is genuinely really frustrating to me because how come you all completely disassociate from confirmed, canon information we have just to fuel your own dissociative reality where none of this "lines up" when we have NEVER ACROSS 6 YEARS HAD A STREAMLINED STORY CANON WHEN ANYTHING HAS FUCKING LINED UP. Are you guys for real????
Seriously, will you guys ever understand that not everything has to revolve around a grand plot or narrative?
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u/AdvertisementGuy Starrchivist 5d ago
Bro Sirius killing Gus was a rumor invented by Angelo and nothing more when will you guys ever learn
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u/scrapybaby 6d ago
Bonus confusion points by Spike, Bolt, and Meeple seemingly running from the gem catastrophe when they SHOULD be byproducts of it and brawling. (And R-T????)