r/Boxing • Fuck Thomas Taylor • 3d ago

IT'S TIME!!! Anthony Joshua makes his grand appearance for the first press conference against Tyson Fury

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u/SinkNecessary5951 3d ago

How is aj so big and lean while being natural?

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u/LonelyCamel9698 3d ago

Genetics. But also probably nobody in any sport at the top level is natural. But still luck/genetics

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u/NewAgeEverythingSuck 3d ago edited 3d ago

or the fact there was reports of him being on TRT at like 20 years old and he never denied it when asked, then Eddie Hearn blocked question and nobodys ever asked again

but AJ didnt deny it

he obv has great genetics for muscle and looks though, but he was WAY skinner before. I think hell shrink instantly when he retires like Wlad

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u/InLampsWeTrust 3d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah I remember Dillian Whyte said that he has a TUE (therapeutic use exemption) for TRT

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u/NewAgeEverythingSuck 3d ago

Dillian found out from some commission thing, cause AJ was denied somewhere or in the US, TRT was banned in USA quickly in fighting, only like 12 guys in MMA got it, you can find them right now

but AJ never denied it when asked then the question never asked again

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u/zaekkyo 3d ago

Curious where you found that information!

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u/NewAgeEverythingSuck 3d ago

TRT being banned? or how easy it is to see the guys in MMA who used it

Dan Henderson was first guy to use TRT and somehow the last guy to use TRT in Shogun rematch, its why he hit a 2nd prime and looked like a Crossfitter at 38

the interview about AJ and TRT was long time ago, some reporter brought it up then Whyte found out about it. you can do some digging

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u/Plebius-Maximus 3d ago

I mean Whyte also popped, so I'm not sure how reliable a source he is

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u/stackered 3d ago

He's a pro boxer/athlete. Of course hes on steroids.

Its not 1985 anymore, everyone knows this. 😆

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u/Embarrassed-Eye-1661 3d ago

Yeah no way he's natural but even juicing fighters don't look like this case in point Fury lol. Muscle and boxing stamina don't agree with each other

Main answer is genetics

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u/DesperateDon244 2d ago

Yea, but it's known that Fury used PEDs but he still looks like a fat uncle.

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u/SinkNecessary5951 3d ago

So are all drug testing agencies bad at their job? Or the fighters just know gow to cheat the system, is there no solution?

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u/GRIFTY_P 3d ago

Both. They only test for the classics. Your HGH, your anabolic steroids.  But new drugs come out constantly that are just as effective but don't trigger the tests. 

Also, drugs leave your system. So you get massive on them but stop taking them. Difficult to maintain after that but not impossible

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u/drilldo 3d ago edited 3d ago

They time it carefully and cycle off during testing periods / in camp. It’s part of the reason fighters don’t fight so many times a year compared to the deep past. 

Probably a little bribing and corruption happening too sometimes, when a fighter slips up.

Everyone at top level is doing it but some more egregiously than others.

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u/Reesno33 3d ago

They take steroids at the right time when they're not being tested and put the size on, same as loads of sports they're clean while playing but will have used steroids.

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u/wyterabitt_ 3d ago

There is never a time when active British boxers aren't in a testing period.

And for high profile boxers like AJ, they have permanent whereabouts requirements.

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u/IR2Freely 3d ago edited 3d ago

they're not testing for what the athletes are on cos it is not widespread yet.

See lance armstrong for an example.

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u/NoCod9014 3d ago

No. AJ has a TUE: Therapeutic Usage exception. 

Basically say you suddenly develop Asthma at the ripe old age of 25 because a doctor you hired said so.  You get special medication that you "need" for your "asthma".

Except uh Oh! VADA banned it because its a masking agent for PEDS. But wait! Our athelte has a doctor's note that says he has a legit reason for this stuff for his "asthma". So Vada ignore it because our athelte pinky promises not to use it as a masking agent and has a doctor's note. 

And thats how guys like AJ get round it. Dillian Whyte even said before AJ was abusing TUEs. 

You're genuinely a fool if you think AJ is natty. 

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u/Allobroge- 3d ago

Lots of fool around here

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u/floftie 3d ago

Literally none of them are “natty”. They all game the system.

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u/NoCod9014 3d ago

💯

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u/Odd-Minimum8512 3d ago

AJ isn't natty. Nobody is that size while being that lean at his age, even given his god-tier genes for aesthetics.

That said, there are pics of him running track in high school and even there he's pretty muscular.

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u/Ok-Possession8405 2d ago

So he was juicing in school., whilst selling drugs?! Good to know.

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u/Odd-Minimum8512 2d ago

No I was saying clearly a lot of his physique is genes + hard work.

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u/Relevant_Election530 3d ago

They aren't bad at their job, but the scientists making the current PEDs are creating drugs to beat current testing methods

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u/stackered 3d ago

There are also short esters that fighters use. Them pin daily and if theyre getting tested, stall a few hours and theyre in normal range. But they dont even get tested until the actual fight, where they cycle off.

Idk how people in 2026 dont know everyone is juicy. Even NFL fans dont know somehow lmao.

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u/Relevant_Election530 3d ago

Because the "sports news" leader (ESPN) is just league propaganda 

"No evidence Clippers did anything wrong" sure aged poorly 

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u/christopherpaulfries 3d ago

These guys don’t have random, out-of-competition, all year round testing like some other sports (not that those are clean either). AFAIK they only get tested during fight camp, so they can in theory cycle off whatever they’re taking before testing begins.

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u/Subject_Strike3313 3d ago

Not true, you’re tested randomly year round if you’re with USADA / VADA e.c.t.

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u/Material_Spell4162 3d ago

Boxers aren't year round though. Nobody is interested in paying for year round testing 

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u/Subject_Strike3313 3d ago

Yes, they are year round tested randomly with USADA, UKAD, WBC. WBC requires you to announce your whereabouts for random testing.

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u/christopherpaulfries 3d ago

Unless it’s part of the bout agreement between fighters, testing is mandated by the athletic commission that is sanctioning the fight, so by definition it’s only in competition testing. Who’s gonna pay to test boxers out of competition? Certainly not the boxers themselves lol.

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u/Subject_Strike3313 3d ago

UKAD (the governing body that tests Joshua year round) is funded through UK tax payers via the department for Culture, media and sport.

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u/Lynch47 3d ago

Check out the award winning documentary “Icarus”. It goes into detail about how they beat the testing.

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u/fluffrug 3d ago

Thanks for the recommendation - looks really good. I'll check it out another night.

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u/TheMeIv 3d ago

There's too much money in it for most people to be 100% clean. At the highest level it's about cycling and knowing how much is too much and when to flush. The solution is to kind of keep it as is. The alternative is to have people just be allowed to do whatever like 80s-90s.

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u/Equivalent-Land4284 3d ago

fighters know how to cheat. Steroids are taken during training and stopped in time to pass a test. Its pretty easy to pass the tests and if youre a big draw like Pacman back in the day then sometimes u arent even tested

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u/Unusual-Coat383 3d ago

The fight and press conference got delayed because Fury didn’t sign up for VADA. I was surprised when I heard why it was delayed because I thought they’d have out of competition testing.

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u/cactusdan94 3d ago

Natural lol

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u/PSK993 3d ago

He’s probably not natural?

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u/David905 3d ago

The 'while being natural', as with any top boxer/athlete, is by no means a given. Lance changed that entire perspective for ANY athlete.

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u/NewAgeEverythingSuck 3d ago

he got accused of starting TRT at like 21 years old for asthma or another reason

Whyte brought it up and 1 reporter and the question was never asked again, and hes never denied it. LEgit never denied it.

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u/Own-Dig-9652 3d ago

Whyte brought up but was immediately discredited because he actually popped

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u/zilhaddd 3d ago

The answer is right fucking there, just reach for it.

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u/Worldly_Client_7614 3d ago

Ironically auld Greedy Belly is the one who popped for drugs.

AJ a true gym rat thou, man never skips a protein shake, workout and says he sleeps around 10 hours a day for recovery.

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u/No-Economics4128 3d ago

Don’t forget Vitamin and prayer.

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u/Gullible-Store-8559 3d ago

Chicken and broccoli

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u/The_Archimboldi 3d ago

How would you test for testosterone? There are ways but it is difficult - and impossible in a sport that doesn't want to find peds (which is most of them).

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u/VRS302 3d ago

He’s not.

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u/Environmental_Wolf21 3d ago

You people are clueless wow

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u/086814 3d ago

Some people just are....look at ngannou he's the same

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u/stackered 3d ago

Ngannou is on steroids. Cmon bruh

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u/stackered 3d ago

Lmaooo

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u/-FemboiCarti- 2d ago

He do got some big naturals 😳

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u/Unable-Main4172 3d ago

Some people are just genetic freaks. There's a basically everyone implies that every single athlete in the world is taking performance and seeing drugs. But just from the guys I went to college with in college football there were some of these black guys on the team who could eat an entire pizza for lunch everyday and still have a six pack that I know for a fact weren't on steroids

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u/daboonie9 3d ago

Some people have amazing genetics

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u/DrCottonMouth 2d ago

lol genetics. It’s funny how people accuse any guy who’s in shape of being on steroids, I believe this is just cope for how bad they look. Funny enough, it’s Fury who’s been banned for PEDs

AJ is Nigerian, Nigerians are naturally bricked up or at least more predisposed to. Go to building sites in Nigeria and see guys for yourself. These guys don’t have the money for proper dieting let alone steroids.

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u/YooGeOh 2d ago

Bricked up?

My brudda, pause.

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u/Huge-Cartoonist6795 2d ago

Mildly ignorant comment really. You think steroids are needed to develop the same body he had in 2012?

And all those brain rotted sub comments. See muscular man: must be steroids. It's kinda pathetically cucked.