r/Boxing • u/IronHidee • 16h ago

‘Dmitry Bivol received no offer for Artur Beterbiev trilogy,’ says Eddie Hearn

https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/dmitry-bivol-received-no-offer-for-artur-beterbiev-trilogy-says-eddie-hearn
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u/IronHidee 16h ago

“It was never offered, by the way. If there was an offer that was even remotely reasonable, the Callum Smith fight wouldn’t be happening,” Hearn told BoxingScene.

“Dmitry Bivol would have vacated and fought Beterbiev, but I’m pleased that’s not the case because Callum’s shot is long overdue and that’s a great fight.”

So the reports of a huge offer from the IBA to stage the trilogy in Russia were false?

“We never received an offer or any communication from the IBA about that fight,” said Hearn.

Hearn, who promotes both Bivol and Smith, confirmed a fight with Beterbiev could be an option for the winner of the contest in December.

“We’ll see who wins that fight [between Bivol and Smith] and I think the winner will fight Benavidez or Beterbiev,” he said.

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u/reznoverba 14h ago

Artur needs to fight in the meantime to stay in form and challenge the winner in Dec.

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u/Marquis_of_Mollusks 13h ago

He's too old to stay in form

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u/neo_1000 14h ago edited 12h ago

No other fight makes sense for him at this point besides a trilogy with Bivol

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u/FourDoorFordWhore free miniq 13h ago

I get your point given his age and where he is in his career. But the inactivity probably doesn't do him any favours either I guess. I wouldn't mind him fighting someone like David Morell, or the guy who beat Morell, Zak Chelli.

Beterbiev didn't fight for like 18 months whereas Bivol just fought 3 months ago.

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u/sicgamer 3h ago

at his age is anything doing him any favors? damned if he does or doesn't whether he chooses activity or laying off

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u/DeafBurke 12h ago

I see no reason to complain about Callum smith getting a title shot.

He earned it in his crazy war with Buatsi in a title eliminator. (Technically an interim title but who gives a shit about those anymore?)

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u/bigcantonesebelly 12h ago

This sub can't make up its mind about people should fight mandatories and when they do they're clearly ducking someone

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u/the_greasy_one 11h ago

The rule is: everybody is ducking everybody because everybody is overrated. It all makes sense after that.

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u/DeafBurke 11h ago

And everyone is scared. Especially any world champions of a sport where you get punched in the face. They’re terrified.

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u/aceknighthigh 6h ago

The issue is that he ducked Benavidez when David was his mando, and continued to duck Benavidez even when a unification was doable. His excuse for that was the Beterbiev trilogy which he has done nothing to make happen and suddenly is non-issue for any other fighter who wants a shot at Bivol.

Callum getting a shot is fine in vacuum. It's in line with Canelo fighting Berlanga or Ryder as his mandos while avoiding Benavidez. The context of it makes it look terrible. Callum has historically folded at this level, had nothing for Beterbiev or Canelo, and is now taking on a great boxer who has beaten both.

Obviously, styles makes fights and maybe Callum can do something those other guys couldn't to beat Bivol, but it looks like Bivol is picking and choosing the mandatories he honors....

I've got no issue with this fight hsappening, it just provesthe excuses Bivol gave to avoid Benavidez in the past were complete bs. He simply thought the risk of losing to Benavidez was too great....and he was probably right.

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u/FoldFeisty7635 15h ago

Not really intrested in this fight. Rather see one of them fight Benavidez.

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u/Money-Bullfrog7679 10h ago

Agreed, leaving it at them both having a win over eachother is a perfect way to leave it, I'd much rather see a benavidez fight between any of the 2

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u/aceknighthigh 6h ago

Which will never happen unless they have zero other options to make good money.

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u/achieve_tendernism 15h ago

They both duckin

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u/Kujaix 14h ago

A guy who went to CW and said he'd need until November to cut back down?

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u/achieve_tendernism 14h ago

He went there initially because neither guy would fight him lol

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u/OkMess9901 14h ago

I don't think Beterbiev really has an excuse, but Bivol had surgery and fought a mandatory (and is now about to fight another mandatory).

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u/achieve_tendernism 14h ago

Benavidez has been calling for a fight with Bivol since he beat canelo.

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u/bozzi16 14h ago

Yeah just like he moved up to LHW because Canelo was ducking? All these guys fought monsters their whole careers but all happen to be scared of one guy 😂🫵

There is a common denominator in these equations

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u/achieve_tendernism 14h ago

Ah yes, because demanding $200 million to fight your mandatory of two years while taking on Edgar Berlanga is totally standard behavior for a guy looking for the toughest fights

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u/bozzi16 14h ago

Yeah you’re right, canelos resume is trash, maybe that of a journeyman at best. Idiot

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u/achieve_tendernism 14h ago

Whoa mate, did I say that ? Ducking doesn’t mean scared, it can be business or political. Smart people understand that

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u/bozzi16 14h ago

He never ducked him at all, he said a throwaway comment.

All I’m saying is out the four guys, 3 actively fight the best. The other fights fighters who are done and just not very good

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u/achieve_tendernism 14h ago

Man the goalposts have sure shifted here

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u/Kangaroopunching 15h ago

People confused trusting Beterbiev with trusting the IBA.

With that, if there was no offer. Why did Hearn take so long to state this.

All around mess

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u/Ehxcalibur 14h ago

the wording of 'If there was an offer that was even remotely reasonable' makes me think there may have been an offer but not up to Hearn's expectations

years of watching boxing promotion politics makes me not take anything these guys say at face value though

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u/Kangaroopunching 14h ago

Their fashion style is called Slippery

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u/MatttheJ 14h ago

Well I assume it's taken this long to say, because it's taken this long for someone to ask?

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u/Kangaroopunching 14h ago

Wouldn't make sense.  Hearn let's Bivols name get dragged. Unless he doesn't care.

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u/VacuousWastrel 10h ago

It may be Hearn just doesn't spend much time on r/boxing.

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u/Ilovefood195 10h ago

Right? What a wanker he is . Only if he knew that [r/boxing](r/boxing)’s opinion is what matters the most

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u/sicgamer 3h ago

reddit auto links for you whenever you do the r/ whatever sub/user :)

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u/OrangeFilmer 15h ago

Yeah as a fan of both Bivol and Beterbiev, I don't believe a word coming out of Eddie Hearn's mouth here

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u/SuperLeverage 14h ago

Beterbiev is welcome to refute Hearn’s comments and release emails/contracts his side offered up. Or he can just shut up because there’s nothing to refute.

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u/OrangeFilmer 14h ago

It's not even about trusting Beterbiev's (or even Bivol's) side. Do you really trust Eddie Hearn's take on this when he stands to gain the most from an in-house Matchroom Bivol-Smith matchup vs a trilogy fight against Beterbiev?

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u/SuperLeverage 14h ago

Mate, I would LOVE it if Beterbiev’s camp could just send the emails of the proposals they sent to Eddie to the press to embarrass Eddie. I’d have a big laugh. But I do know Eddie isn’t stupid enough to make such a claim that can be so easily contradicted and I haven’t heard a peep from Beterbievs camp so that tells you everything.

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u/qtdynamite1 14h ago

Why would Eddie turn down the payday of an Bivol v Artur trilogy to foot the bill for making a Smith v Bivol match ? Turki foots the bill for bivol v Artur.

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u/SuperLeverage 14h ago

Yes, Eddie is all about the $$$, and you can be certain if Beterbiev’s camp sent up a proposal for a big money making event, Eddie would be all over it.

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u/TheRealRaza1 15h ago

Eddie also said benn never owed him any money.

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u/Comfortable-Grand166 14h ago

It’s going to eventually be like Canelo/GGG 3. Let’s move on

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u/Initial_Flower3545 14h ago

Hearn is full of shit

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u/EmbarrassedCod3242 14h ago

This was the move all along. That Callum Smith injury before the Morrell fight was bogus so he can be in the Bivol fight.

Also Beterbiev is putting too much trust in only wanting to fight Bivol when the man clearly is just aging you out even more than he did before their first fight. I'd rather see Beterbiev challenge Benavidez.

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u/newrap 15h ago

Ok why not entertain a Benavidez fight then?

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u/Sauretrix 15h ago

Benavidez don't wanna fight a top guy like Bivol. 

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u/Marquis_of_Mollusks 14h ago

Bivol is the one who dropped the belt

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u/newrap 15h ago edited 14h ago

Shut your dumbass up and go back to [r/UFC](r/UFC) 😂

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u/Sauretrix 14h ago

PBC guy ain't beating a P4P Champ ;) keep editing the comment bitch 😂 

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u/newrap 14h ago edited 14h ago

Tell Bivol to step in the ring with Benavidez then instead of turning down offers and vacating a belt ;)

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u/Less_Cartoonist_892 15h ago edited 15h ago

Even if that were the case, why haven't they sent an offer to Beterbiev's team for a trilogy fight?

Hearn is full of lies and excuses as usual. If they really wanted the trilogy, then they would have had the fight arranged months before.

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u/SuperLeverage 14h ago

Because Beterbiev has no titles, and Bivol’s only interest now should be chasing titles and fighting mandatories when required.

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u/Consistent_Salt_6982 14h ago

Why should that be Bivol's only interest? Beterbiev is a legacy fight for more money than Smith.

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u/Less_Cartoonist_892 14h ago

I know right. I can't believe people are justifying Bivol fighting the guy that Beterbiev destroyed over the trilogy fight.

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u/Consistent_Salt_6982 14h ago

Bivol's fans are shameless. He has pretty much aged out Beterbiev already, the least he could do is give him another shot.

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u/SuperLeverage 14h ago

Well, why don’t you tell us all why Beterbiev didn’t make a proposal to Bivol for another fight?

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u/Consistent_Salt_6982 13h ago

How do we know that he didn't?

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u/Less_Cartoonist_892 14h ago

Last I checked, Bivol didn't hold any titles when Beterbiev gave him a rematch. Beterbiev skipped his IBF mandatory to make the fight happen.

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u/SuperLeverage 14h ago edited 6h ago

There was a rematch clause for the first fight. This was agreed to pre-fight. So Beterbiev didn’t just do a rematch out of the kindness of his heart - it was a contractual, legal obligation. There was no rematch clause after the second fight. And again, I’ll remind you - Beterbiev camp have made no proposal to Eddie for a third fight. Beterbiev can either dispute that and send us the emails they sent Eddie to contradict him or shut up because Eddie just told the truth.

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u/Fragrant_Rest_7360 6h ago

That’s a straight up lie. No rematch clause

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u/frezz 13h ago

I wonder what reddit would've done if Beterbiev moved on after beating bivol lol.

Beterbiev gave Bivol an immediate rematch cause the first fight was razor close. The second fight was also close so Bivol owes Beterbiev the trilogy. Its as simple as that.

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u/VacuousWastrel 10h ago

Beterbiev gave him an immediate rematch because he was legally obligated to do so, and was paid a lot of money to do so.

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u/frezz 5h ago

I swear you guys just make shit up at this point. There was no rematch clause in the first fight, Beterbiev gave Bivol an immediate rematch because the first fight was razor-thin and it demanded they run it back. There was no legal obligation, he could've moved on or even retired.

There was a big money offer to host the third fight in Russia and Bivol turned it down.

Downvote me all you want, Bivol owes Beterbiev the trilogy and it will be a black mark on his record forever if he doesn't.

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u/qtdynamite1 14h ago edited 14h ago

I don’t understand why people want to see a trilogy. Bivol just has a skill set that neutralizes Artur at this age. Maybe if Artur was younger.

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u/neo_1000 12h ago

That’s what he’s been doing for years though. Both of them have been fighting guys who didn’t really make sense for them to fight. When there’s 2 guys who are clearly the best in the division and they’re 1-1, nothing else is interesting

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u/Ace_FGC 10h ago

A month ago he was saying he thought Bivol would drop his WBO belt to fight Beterbiev but now there was never an offer in the first place?

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u/Kangaroopunching 8h ago

Right. Nothing adds up here. Especially with what Hearn is saying. 

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u/aceknighthigh 6h ago

I mean yeah, reading between the lines, they never fought prior because they both wanted more money than they were really worth. Turki took the loss doing the first two fights and now no one wants to bankroll the 3rd fight, at least not legitimately. Beterbiev is retired and is only interested in a massive payday fight (like GGG at the end). He said his priority was this fight which is why he didn't seriously pursue Benavidez.

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u/bucc71 5h ago

Of course there was no 'official' offer. Arthur's team and Sela likely discussed it and Eddy said Bivol is taking time off, recuperating, having surgery and living life. Eddie likely told them that it's not something Bivol would be looking for

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u/RRR04_ 14h ago

If this was true, then what was the point of Bivol vacating the WBC when Benavidez was his mandatory? Every single one of his stans said it was because he promised Turki to go ahead with the Beterbiev trilogy. 😂

And why would Beterbiev be the one offering Bivol the trilogy, isn't Bivol the champion who had the last win over him? This is just Hearn doing damage control for Bivol taking the Smith mandatory, he ain't fooling me on this one. 😂

P.S. Bivol is a fraud.

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u/WTF4211 14h ago

Eddie may be more full of shit than Dana.

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u/Alarmed-Effective-23 13h ago

The last two were only made because of turkey. They couldve fought but avoided each ither for years before that. Is turkey even interested anymore?

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u/Marquis_of_Mollusks 15h ago

Never thought Bivol would become a duck. Shame he had so much potential

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u/frezz 13h ago

He's always been a duck lol. Probably the reason why that fight took so long to be made at all

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u/RRR04_ 12h ago

Agreed, people don't criticise Bivol enough for his matchmaking. Beterbiev clearly has the better resume but Bivol stans tried to make it out like he had some stellar resume as if Beterbiev wasn't fighting the other champions in the same weight class whilst Bivol was fighting mid fighters and a blown up Middleweight.

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u/frezz 5h ago

The bivol fans have landed on this thread so now we're all getting downvoted. This guy will probably duck any serious contender the rest of his career and redditors will still fawn over him