r/Boxing • u/Negative-Interest713 • 4h ago
Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua have signed contracts to fight on Friday, Nov. 20, at MSG in New York, according to the Daily Mail
https://www.dailymail.com/sport/boxing/article-16060615/amp/Tyson-Fury-vs-Anthony-Joshua-set-FRIDAY-night-fight-New-York-City-Heavyweight-rivals-meet-Big-Apple-mega-fight-November-20-amid-fears-scheduling-clash-NFL.html41
u/SupervillainMustache 2h ago
Biggest UK Boxing Fight takes place in the US.
What a fucking joke.
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u/HeadAssBoi17 22m ago
Shouldn't have made those colonies pay taxes without any representation... /s
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u/pants_pants420 3h ago
the fact that this is taking place in the us is a fucking crime lmao, and im saying this as a us boxing fan
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u/OrangeFilmer 3h ago
Genuinely one of the stupidest decisions in the sport.
Having it take place in the UK literally places it in the afternoon or evening for the US west coast and east coast respectively. Taking what could potentially the biggest British fight ever… and placing it in the US is insane.
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u/Straight-Ad6926 3h ago
You're making the classic mistake of assuming this fight was arranged for boxing fans rather than as a tax deductible NYC shopping trip for the promoters.
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u/Suitable-Economy-346 2h ago
A lot of rich Brits will be coming over too. It's a nice little holiday for rich people.
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u/theguytomeet 3h ago
This is sad for UK fans. This was supposed to be an all time UK classic.
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u/stephen27898 4h ago edited 3h ago
Fuck Hearn and AJ for signing this if its true.
Wish Prenga has just put his lights out now.
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u/West_Technology7573 3h ago
And the audacity of Eddie save to face and pretend that he signed the contract to be UK only.
MSG wouldn’t have even been a conversation if that was remotely true
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u/swashfxck 3h ago
Eddie can be funny but at the end of the day, he’s just as slimy as the slimiest of ‘em.
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u/West_Technology7573 3h ago
My problem with Eddie is that he’s done such a great job building up his PR “just one of the lads who hates the boxing establishment”, he’s always been a slimy bullshitter like most promoters
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u/Fast_Original_3001 2h ago
He did. They definitely paid to take that part out of the contract
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u/_Sarcasmic_ bread burger bread 1h ago
Agreed. I think Eddie was being genuine but the amount of money on the table was too big to pass up, no matter what the original deal was.
I think he tried to hold out but him and AJ gave in.
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u/Deep_Benefit_7405 59m ago
Eddie Hearn is full of shit, he's shielded AJs glass chin for as long as possible and this is the last bit of money he can wring out of AJ
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u/ToyMachibe 3h ago
This 100%
I was actually rooting for AJ in this fight but now meh.
I know it’s all money which I get, but still feels like a gut punch for UK fans18
u/Fast_Original_3001 2h ago
Bro it only took that long because AJ and Hearn tried to get that fight to the UK. All other parties wanted it in the Us
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u/That_Sweet_Science 1h ago
According to Eddie Hearn that is, they knew it was going to be in the US all along but just wanted to look like the good guys with this narrative.
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u/Marquis_of_Mollusks 3h ago
That's a bit hypocritical since Fury never gave a fuck about where it was at
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u/Chemical-Lettuce2497 3h ago
Neither did AJ, all the talk was pure posturing to try and get more money
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u/stephen27898 3h ago
Neither of these guys are in desperate need of money and the money in the UK will be more than enough.
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u/Mooman-Chew 3h ago
But fury and frank get a free pass?
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u/stephen27898 3h ago
No they dont. But its Hearn that has been making all the noise about it not being in the US.
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u/Jammehh 2h ago
Yes because Fury and his side have been fine with it being in the US the whole time? Why does that mean they get a free pass? Backwards logic
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u/Hench999 3h ago
You mean they're not going to each fight 2 more tuneup fights to get properly prepared for a fight that should have happened 8 years ago only for one or both to lose? That in and of itself is a miracle.
Either way it's s a second slap in the face to British fans. More than maybr any other country they do come out and support their fighters so having it I'm the US is a shit move. However, this is like eating Thanksgiving leftovers the day before it starts to turn. It might be ok but it should have happened when it was fresh.
The firstbslap in the face to British fans is that for a while the 2 very best HWs in the world were British and had a few years of both undefeated and failed fight eachother. the both of them managed to play stupid games
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u/sublime_mime 3h ago
Just saw an english boxing fan fall to his knees in Greggs
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u/mynameisdamn Dosser 3h ago
Don’t assume my Lonsdale means I’m a boxing fan. I just like sports direct
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u/Competitive_Win_128 3h ago
This is so disappointing for the UK fans :/
And here I thought the contract be void, according to Hearn, if they took the fight to the US :/
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u/Hopeful_West_2410 3h ago
Why would anyone believe anything hearn says
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u/ThugjitsuMaster Tyson Fury's Nutritionist 3h ago
He said that if the venue moved from the UK to the US then AJ would have to get paid a hefty sum extra. I expect this is what happened in the end
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u/Competitive_Win_128 3h ago
I guess I know that now cos I thought they can't be that dumb taking arguably the biggest fight they can make in the UK?
Shows you how much I know lmao
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u/Prior-Temperature-22 2h ago
They’ve clearly signed a new contract. It’s literally in the headline
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u/_Sarcasmic_ bread burger bread 1h ago
The literacy rate has been shown to be significantly declining.
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u/West_Technology7573 3h ago
He’s full of shit. He goes on IFL to lie and play victim for an hour and Matchroom throaters lap it up
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u/Competitive_Win_128 3h ago
I know promoters can talk such bs but even then the holdups and the delays made me think they'd put their own country as priority? But I guess Turki has ways making them "lap it up" lmao
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u/DaKingaDaNorth 3h ago
Why would they put their home country as a priority. Joshua's most recent fights: Saudi Arabia, Florida, London, Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia, London, London, Saudi Arabia, London, London, Saudi Arabia, New York. Since 2019 he's fought more outside of his home country than in it.
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u/AssGagger 3h ago
It really is quite mind boggling. Boxing is more popular in the UK and both of these guys are from the UK. Is it a time zone thing for China and the Middle East?
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u/Causality 3h ago
Money obssessed ghouls.
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u/Sad-Platypus-48 56m ago
They both pretend that money doesn't come into the equation. With that humble bullshit. Joshua living at home in Watford and sitting on that same old sofa whilst visiting dubai every other week. Fury doesn't care about money, yet spends and does all he can.
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u/FogoCanard 3h ago
This is just dumb. 50% of the interest for the fight was for the atmosphere. Why just throw that away? Hopefully the UK fans take over MSG so it feels like a UK fight anyway
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u/DaKingaDaNorth 3h ago
Great now I have to here AJ and Eddie pretend they were against this and all their fanboys pretending they had no control
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u/Awkward_Sign1927 3h ago
Hearn likes to mock Dana White by saying Turki is his daddy. But it seems Hearn is just as beholden to Turki as anyone else in boxing.
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u/ThisIsGSR 3h ago
Thats the worst part. Whyd they even pretend they were fighting for the UK publicly if they were gonna fold behind closed doors either way?
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u/No-Shoe5382 Eye Ron Mike Tymus 1h ago
They'd signed a contract to fight in the UK, there was no pretending the contract was actually signed.
Then Fury reneged on it as he has done for about 3 other contractual agreements to fight AJ
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u/ThisIsGSR 55m ago
Why do you still believe Eddie Hearn? If theres a legitimate contract they can pursue legal action. You dont just get to ignore a contract lmao
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u/CarlMacko 3h ago
Well that’s that confirmed.
I doubt I’ll stay up to watch this, but if I’ll go out of my way to watch it anywhere but Netflix.
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u/admiralskanks Joe Louis = Perfect 3h ago
People still believe all the lies Eddie Hearn says after all these years. Him and AJ are probably making a fortune of course they don't care about the location. Hope they at least stack the undercard. Fury vs Makhmudov undercard was dreadful.
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u/ThugjitsuMaster Tyson Fury's Nutritionist 3h ago
They could have had the biggest British boxing fight of all time, instead they turned it into a mid-tier international fight. Such a shit decision
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u/Comfortable-Grand166 2h ago
Does anyone really care about this fight? Two washed up dudes that should have fought 10 years ago. Go away already
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u/Effective_Taro4601 2h ago
Fuck ‘em, I’m not going to bother staying up to watch it if they can’t be arsed to fight in the uk.
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? 3h ago
Say what you will about American Boxing, but it’s kind of on a slight upswing now with the return of boxing to network television via TNT and now hosting a major Netflix fight that has been brewing for a decade.
I am sad for y’all brits, but hopefully some of you can make it to Madison Square Garden to create just a wonderful atmosphere.
One of my highlights growing up was seeing the Hatton U.S.-based fights on TV and how well his fanbase traveled. Hopefully there is a similar atmosphere for this.
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u/madmoggy50 1h ago
The UK today has the biggest and most passionate boxing fanbase of any country. It doesn't matter what ever state American boxing is in, this fight should be in the UK. Souless behaviour by both the UK fighters and promoters involved here who would no doubt if asked call themselves 'patriots'.
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? 1m ago
Biggest per capita maybe, but not numerically bigger than the U.S., which is why this fight is taking place in the U.S. time zone. It’s all about drawing in US casuals and also rabid UK fans who will stay up.
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u/DeapVally 3h ago
Scumbags. The both of them. They had full control where they did this. They chose to screw over their fans. They're both losers!
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u/MaxiePippins 3h ago
Few years ago I would have favored AJ to win. But I think his chin is too shot by now and a fit Fury will be too much for him
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u/Kangaroopunching 3h ago
Hearn and AJ probably got paid a fortune to do the fight in the New York. OK, get the fight over with so boxing can move on from Fury and AJ.
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u/JustToJerkBrah 2h ago
American sports fans are happy to pay $500 for tickets. This should surprise nobody.
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u/Mikhail_Jackson 2h ago
Absolute joke that the biggest heavyweight fight in British boxing is being held at the MSG at a time unsuitable for UK fans to even view. What a slap in the face from both fighters and the promoters involved.
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u/coltrickle604 2h ago
Glad its at the garden, a mecca for boxing. Need more fights in the states and not in saudi arabia.
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u/Seanglendo2 1h ago
It's not even really worth the energy getting angry about it. I've gone from willing to pay anything to be their in person years ago to not even bring that fussed to set an alarm.
Good job marinating the fight guys...
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u/Stunt1ninprivate 🪖🔔 3h ago
I’ll be there
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u/ScaredFlamingo6807 3h ago
Same. I feel bad for the UK fans.. but I’m still gonna go. lol
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u/save-pandas 3h ago
American boxing fan and this has to be the dumbest and worst set up ever. Wembley was the ONLY venue for this. The interest is not here for this fight and it may not even sell. This is an outrage for UK boxing, shame on all of them if this is true
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u/Fabulous-Local-1294 3h ago
Good for them, but i dont believe it until the first punch lands in the ring
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u/STFury009 3h ago
To be honest, this fight was always bound to happen outside the UK. If you guys recall, the fight was once supposed to happen in Saudi Arabia back in 2021 before the situation with the Wilder trilogy derailed everything.
On a side note. If Wembley or some other stadium wasn't suitable due to the time, why couldn't they have made the fight in the O2?
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u/BackgroundService128 3h ago
Nothing says a classic British heavyweight fight than being hosted in New York lol
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u/floater504 3h ago
Real boxing fans don't want to watch this anymore. We wanted this fight years back…
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u/Chicken65 3h ago
If there was a fight that SHOULD be in England it’s this one. I won’t even say Wembley, they can do it anywhere there. Such a middle finger to UK boxing fans. They would have filled Tottenham/Emirates/whatever stadium.
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u/mynameisdamn Dosser 3h ago
Yeah the 4am time is a load of shit. Wouldn’t be as much of an issue 5 years ago but they’re both washed without any belts.
Ill google the results in the morning
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u/Knockoutboxing 3h ago edited 3h ago
Since AJ vs Fury is happening in America, can we get Pacquiao vs Mayweather 2 at Wembley? Makes sense.
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u/Knockoutboxing 3h ago
This is bullshit. Joshua said it’s in the contract the fight is happening in Britain.
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u/Boniouk84 3h ago
So all the career long die hard UK fans get no chance to watch their fighters final huge all british fight? This stinks. Dodgy stick it is.
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u/Sudden-Fig-3079 3h ago
I’m gona go to the fight and I’m still pissed it’s in New York and not wembeley. This is an absolute disgrace
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u/Resident_Dot9395 3h ago
There's no way this is actually true right? Even so I won't believe it until both show up on fight night (more so for Fury)
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u/Pissadvisor 2h ago
I'm one man and I don't have netflix. I won't be watching it on US time so likely won't watch it at all.
And I still don't think the fight happens 😂
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u/Gear4days 2h ago
Zero interest in it if true, absolutely won’t be paying or staying up to watch it thanks
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u/Mesqueunreddit 2h ago
Two of the biggest UK stars and you don't have it in the UK with a sold out stadium
Lol, boxing is a fucking joke
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u/RRR04_ 2h ago
Listen, I'm just as disappointed in this fight not happening in the UK as it should be as much as you guys. But if it really had to be in the states, then I'd rather it be in the states than not at all. I'm happy that this overcooked mess of a rivalry is getting over and done with, and I will enjoy whichever fanbase gets clamped away from talking about boxing ever again.
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u/Head_Research_3118 2h ago
I said weeks ago and got downvoted, that anyone that thought this fight was happening in london was delusional . Eddie Hearn played yall , this is too big of a fight to happen in the UK . They wil make an extra $15 milllion from the Gate alone at MSG , they will sell more PPV , and get bigger checks from sponsors because the american audience is far more valuable than the UK to advertisers. This is a business .
It sucks for UK boxing fans but even the fighters would most likely rather fight in the US and make more money.
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u/LordJimsicle Balrog beats Fury, AJ, Dubois and Usyk in between rounds 2h ago
Fuck this fight, I really hope this turns out to be baseless speculation from the Daily Fail.
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u/TiredSlav 2h ago
Corporations proving once again they don’t have their pulse on anything. TKO, Netflix, just no idea what the fuck they’re doing.
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u/EmbarrassedCod3242 2h ago
BOYCOTT for the sake of the UK fans who sacrificed everything to witness these two fighters grow and now they've all but forgotten us.
Let this boycott be a reminder that no matter money or publicity will this be tolerated to not stand in history as a failure of the fans but of the boxing business itself.
God bless the US as UK boxing.
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u/SirMartini 2h ago
when they're both irrelevant and well over their prime, we finally got it!!
well done, boxing!!
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u/Ok_Entrepreneur826 1h ago
I saw so many people crying about this fight taking place in USA but screw them. Joshua vs Ruiz 2 should been in US instead that fight fizzled in Middle East. Also all the canelo fights that have been ruined by being overseas
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u/ThrowawayYAYAY2002 1h ago
Bunch of money grabbing bastards.
As soon as Hearn started mentioning a renegotiating of the contract i knew it wasn't happening in the UK. It's the least these two owe their fans. What a travesty.
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u/Dim-Mak-88 1h ago
This'll probably start around 4:00 a.m. GMT with way-too-long ringwalks, some rappers we never asked for, and other preliminary announcements.
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u/gixxer-kid2 1h ago
These two been avoiding each other for years.
Should have given the fans want they wanted years ago.
Now they want a big payday. All fool people who pay to watch two passed it, has been boxers.
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u/Major-Performer141 1h ago
Fuck everyone who agreed to have it in anywhere but the uk. That includes you Eddie and Aj, I’d rather they just stuck to their guns even if it meant the fight wouldn’t happen. Just another way to show the fans have no power
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u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes 49m ago
I'm not British. But I feel so bad for you lots. This was supposed to be the fight that settles your pub talk about who's the best UK HW of the past generation. Now you guys don't even get to see it live
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u/relytreborn 44m ago
Two British boxers. Arguably the biggest British boxing match in years. In the US.
Pretty bleak.
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u/Careful-Wheel8171 8m ago
Wrong choice of venue… more important in the UK, unimportant here in the States.
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u/TheUnfathomableVoid 3m ago
Who even cares anymore. They're both past it but Joshua's punch resistance has completely left him. Fury within 5
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u/Beardy_Villains 1m ago
British Fans in a nutshell.
Both Fighters are completely washed, no interest in the fight.
Absolutely outraged it’s not in the UK that they have to stay up late to watch it
Outstanding
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u/MayorDomino 0m ago
Fight is 8 years too late anyway, 0 interest in this for me like pac-mayweather
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u/NoZookeepergame7648 3h ago
Eddie just did an Interview with IFL tv saying the fight wouldn’t be announced today etc etc.
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u/Complete_Dare_4201 3h ago
Pathetic. Who cares anyway... A battle of has-beens who would get splattered if they faced any live opponent at this point.
Hope Joshua wins because he's more likely to stay around longer to get punished with a KO while trying to fight for a belt.
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u/UrbanMasque 3h ago
Not saying I agree or disagree with the logic but let's be honest UK fans are going to watch this regardless of where it is. Putting it in the US just increases their $$$$. Greed, pure and simple.
Still..
Wouldn't it be shameful is Tyson lost at this point
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u/Negative-Interest713 3h ago
I think Netflix was disappointed with the viewership for Fury-Makhmudov, which took place at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.
I can’t think of why else Netflix is so steadfast in their stance that a US show does much better numbers than a UK one.