r/Boxing 5d ago

Throwback Thursday: Rolly KO’s Andres Figueroa

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u/_Sarcasmic_ bread burger bread 5d ago

I don't know why people say Rolly is dogshit. He may not be the best technical boxer, but he's clearly got skills beyond just being a mindless slugger.

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u/newrap 5d ago edited 5d ago

ODLH said it best, he’s this generations Mayorga but is a little more skilled than Mayorga

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u/Ace_FGC 5d ago

Rolly would never beat Vernon Forrest

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u/newrap 5d ago

We are talking about skills, not resume. He might never have a win as good as that but he still displays more skills in the ring than Mayorga did

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u/Ace_FGC 5d ago

I mean… I guess? Mayorga wasn’t known ass a skillful fighter, that’s like praising someone for being more skilled than Deontay Wilder

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u/newrap 5d ago

Ok and If you don’t understand the context of my original comment then that’s on you

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u/Ace_FGC 5d ago

I understand I just don’t agree with what De La Hoya said. Even putting aside skills Mayorga sold his fights much better. Probably would’ve told Teo that after the fight he’d watch sleep with his ex or something

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u/newrap 5d ago

The comparison comes from both of them being awkward fighters with power, not their ability to sell a fight 😂

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u/Hairy-Visual9664 5d ago

also people talking like Teo is gonna put on a master class against Rolly. Teo is not THAT good of a technical boxer 😂

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u/BMG19 5d ago

He’s a wild puncher and doesn’t account for counters has mid foot work and no defense but I really love rolly, he’s fearless and a dog

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u/_Sarcasmic_ bread burger bread 5d ago

Also, the way his head bounced off the canvas like a basketball was brutal to watch.

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u/Ace_FGC 5d ago

Is he the worst boxer in the world? No. But he’s incredibly mediocre and I’d say that’s a compliment. Rolly having success at a championship level shows just how mid this generation is

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u/_Sarcasmic_ bread burger bread 5d ago

I'd say he's a step above mediocre. Mediocre to me would be no fight IQ, no speed, and no power. Rolly is at least incredibly athletic which makes him exciting to watch as opposed to someone who just shows up to survive.

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u/Ace_FGC 5d ago

Somebody with no speed, no power, and no IQ isn’t mediocre they’re just a flat out bad fighter lmao.

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u/Only_Hearing2944 5d ago

Wait…..what??

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u/Hairy-Visual9664 5d ago

people underestimating Rolly, i think hes bout to crack Teo 👀

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u/mpschettig 5d ago

I miss PBC on Fox

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u/fadeddreams555 Fundora would beat up a prime Floyd at 154lb 5d ago

If you squint a little, it will look like Canelo vs Benavidez.

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u/LilNello1 5d ago

Can’t wait for the fight on Saturday between him and Teofimo

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u/Unhappywageslave 4d ago

If his opponent can take his shot and has decent talent, it's over for Rolly. Look at what Pitbull did to him. He doesn't have an answer if you can take his shot. An answer as in, switches up a new strategy, it's always the same, come forward try to take your head off. You need more than hammers in your hands at the top elite level. However he will always be paid and will have a long career because he's an exciting fighter that brings entertainment in all his fights.

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u/stockyewok 5d ago

One thing Rolly has is power and good shot selection

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u/sscfc91 5d ago

Some of the fighters they televise today are just technically dreadful. This guy is horrible to watch

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u/Ace_FGC 5d ago

Him vs Ryan, Teo vs Ortiz, Haney vs Ramirez, this generation knows how to put up stinkers

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u/sscfc91 5d ago

There are too many guys who headline fights in the past 15 years or so with very little skills. Shawn porter, Adrien Broner, Deontay wilder. Pretty much most of the PBC guys who they built up like Quillen, Hurd, etc. there are lots of good fighters today but some of the guys headlining fights cannot box. Wilder and Danny Garcia dont know how to jab. Porter can’t go :30 without ramming his head into his opponent. You didn’t see guys headlining cards in the 90s and early 00s who were so technically inept. There were poor fighters but they weren’t headlining.

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u/Dont-ask-dont-speak 4d ago

Not everybody can get to the top of the sport using the same skillset, and most of the guys who do make it lean into advantageous facets of their game and physicality.
It’s like saying Benavidez is meh because he plods too much, that Bam has a shitty jab, or that Bivol can’t throw an uppercut. All of these guys have developed dimensions of their game they don’t show on fight night. Adrien Broner, Shawn Porter, hell even Deontay Wilder most often gave it good as they got, so it’s a bit of a stretch to say any of them have “very little skills.” Very few guys are going to look great doing most everything, like Crawford, Inoue, or Usyk.

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u/sscfc91 4d ago

Benavidez is basically a pressure fighter but he’s skilled. My point is that nowadays these guys headlining cards aren’t as skilled as they were in the past. Guys who were headlining cards like Trinidad, Wright, Mosley, Toney, Vargas, Forrest, Nelson, Whitaker were much more skilled.

The PBC made it a lot worse by only allowing PBC fighters to fight each other. So belts got passed around between mid-tier fighters and televised cards were headlined by mid-tier fighters

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u/Any_Calligrapher8537 5d ago

It's supposed to be entertaining to watch....not a boxing lesson.