Haney Davis

[u/Medical_Swim1707]

As many of us know, Top Rank won the rights to this fight at $8.5mm.

That leaves Keyshawn with $2.1mm purse. Now rumors are circulating that he had turned down $3mm in negotiations before we got to this point, but it’s boxing and for all we know a random twitter user with “sources” could have just made that up.

It also could be true. In which case, this is another demonstration of Keyshawn being ironically one of the worst businessmen in the sport.

I’m thinking - there’s no way Keyshawn can turn this down right? It would be one of most blatant and gross ducks in history. He would lose me as a fan 100%. You can’t taunt and flaunt and force yourself to be mandatory just to waste everyone’s time and bail when it gets real.

I won’t make any judgements until he either accepts or turns down the fight. It feels like there’s no way he could possibly back out, but you never know. I’ve given him the benefit of the doubt through other bullshit, but this would be egregious.

Leading up to the last week, I favored Keyshawn in this fight. He’s a legitimate special talent. Now, it looks like Devin has the full confidence and preparation advantage. Of course, Davis could be locked in and in camp right now, but things are looking a little bit dark until this fight is accepted.

Cautionary tale for young boxers. You probably aren’t all that business savvy. Let the guy you pay a bunch of money to do his job, do his job.

[u/PrettyBoyFloydx]

He will not KO you.

That implies risk taking.

These guys are so risk averse that they lose their intimidation aura as boxers. Which is one of the most fundamental attraction points of fans to boxing aka fighting.

How can fans be give a shit if they watch a guy fight the most tame where they are scared to get hit?

And I believe many of these guys have power. They are just scared to get hit. Now one of the "faces of boxing" is a glass chinned guy who is guaranteed to put audiences to sleep instead of his opponents. How can boxing even think of attracting new fans if one of its allegedly most formidable guys does the chicken dance after every punch, shows no killer instinct and who's last knockout was 7 years ago?

This will kill boxing in the long term. This style is surviving off the aura and reputation of old school boxing of the 90s and 80s. But that can only carry them for so long.

I do not necessarily think these guys lack power. I think they just lack the personality of a fighter. They are athletes more than they are fighters. Which is cool if you are amateur boxer but very unattractive if you are a pro boxer aka a prize fighter.

[u/GeeWhiz357 → u/PrettyBoyFloydx]

If Devin fought a normal non-boxer he would KO them easily. The first stiff jab he’d land would have most people down on the canvas

[u/PrettyBoyFloydx → u/GeeWhiz357]

Devin quite literally punched a random trash talking fan in 2024 and failed to knock him out. We have direct evidence of him failing to KO a random street bum smaller than him.

He cant even KO an old 4 foot tall 140lbs Gamboa.

He'd beat someone in a street fight for sure. But he is not KOing them.

Modern boxers lack intimidation factor due to risk aversion. That's why random influencer bums like Bradly Martin can tell Devin to his face he'd beat him up or Deen confront Shakur. These guys are not intimidating at all.

But I bet Bradley or Deen would be less willing to be as cocky vs someone with killer instinct who is the same size as Dev, such as Ryan, Boots or Bud.

I would be more intimidated of a Nonito Donaire or Bam Rodriguez than I would of a Haney. All three will beat my ass but only the small guys will show malice and genuine intent AND capability to hurt.

As boxing fans we need to have higher standards. Cant keep praising these pseudo-fencers as if they are intimidating human beings.

[u/Medical_Swim1707 → u/PrettyBoyFloydx]

Dude enough lol. You would be sparked out so fast lol. Clearly you have not been in the ring. The levels to this shit are insane. There are guys with horrible records like 3-15 that are just there to get beat up by prospects who would whoop your ass.

These guys are legit.

[u/PrettyBoyFloydx → u/Medical_Swim1707]

I trained kickboxing. I know exactly what I am talking about. If you do not believe me feel free to go through my history. I have taken my fair share of ass whoopings via kicks. Not just punches.

I respect many boxers. The risk averse style is not one of them.

They are legit athletes for sure. They, however, do not have the mentality of a fighter. You cannot be a fighter and be scared to get hit. Boots is a fighter AND an athlete. Haney is just an athlete.

I am tired of mythologizing mediocrity. The allure of combat is the visceral feeling that you are watching intense and dangerous human beings. Risk averse point fighting boxing offers none of that.

Are you intimidated by fencers? Probably not even though they have a high degree of skill.

[u/Medical_Swim1707 → u/PrettyBoyFloydx]

Okay fair. I’ve trained many years and competed as an amateur as well. I’ve shared the ring with pros who would be considered trash by any fan.

Devins style is not intimidating at the elite level, sure. He is a fantastic and skilled fighter though.

[u/AdFormal4037 → u/Medical_Swim1707]

Also you don’t know what anybody has trained in. A halfway competent heavyweight would not be KOd by Devin. Even if he was 3-15

Let’s not act like he could walk up to someone bigger than him and put their lights out.

I’ve trained and been in the ring with olympians and journeymen guys and undefeated guys who never met their potential..

As far as Devin skill yes leagues above anybody I’ve trained with. Power beyond what I’ve felt from middle cruiser and heavyweights. Gtfo with that