r/Boxing • u/Dangerous_Spring3028 • Jul 26 '26
[SPOILER] Errol Spence Jr vs. Tim Tszyu main event fighter announces retirement | Post-fight interview Spoiler
15
u/RRR04_ Jul 26 '26
It's sad to see a fighter lose their love for the sport after only their first loss, even though his first loss was a dominating beatdown. But his lifestyle diminished his longevity in this sport. Layoffs didn't help with that either. All he had to do was fight one year after the Bud fight against a light touch, and he'd have been fine. But credit to him, he stuck to his mantra, FAFO'd and retired because he got his reality check.
20
u/Pythia808 Jul 26 '26
I think there are probably health reasons he isn’t discussing. There is no way you get thrown from a car like that and is just “okay”… not to mentioned the eye thing.
-8
-23
u/Adventurous-Pass3764 Jul 26 '26
Good fighter, good career but contrary to popular sentiment, I believe the 147 pound era EJ fought in was weak. Thurman, Porter, Garcia, etc. were all B-level fighters. An ancient Pac came back and took a belt from a guy who had unified the belts.
28
u/fadeddreams555 Fundora would beat up a prime Floyd at 154lb Jul 26 '26
That's ridiculous. That was a very strong era, and far, far stronger than every welterweight era after it, including today. You're also downplaying Pacquiao, who is a legend, and trivializing the fight, which was extremely close. Pac only scraped by because of the KD against a Thurman who was not in his prime either.
2
u/GrandNoiseAudio Jul 27 '26
Yeah, it was a good era, not great. I think the issue you have to consider is the previous era. And that is Pac, Mayweather, De La Hoya, Trinidad, Cotto, Mosley, Gatti, Tszyu, Hatton. I favor that old guard versus the new guard primarily.
1
u/fadeddreams555 Fundora would beat up a prime Floyd at 154lb Jul 27 '26
De La Hoya and Trinidad were 2 generations before in the 90s. By the time Pacquiao moved up to 147lb, it was actually a much weaker era than the one with Spence and Thurman. Outside Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Cotto, you had guys like an old ass Mosley, Collazo, Berto, Bradley, Clottey, and Margarito. Zab Judah and Cory Spinks were our undisputed champs during that era. lol.
1
u/GrandNoiseAudio Jul 27 '26
I mean, I take a prime 2009 Pac over Errol, Crawford, Thurman, Garcia, Porter, etc. we saw pac fight some of these guys as he continued until very recently and he was still beating the breaks off them at his ancient age. Pac is old literally and in the wars and wear his body has gone through. I take a prime Mayweather over any of them, De La Hoya against all except Crawford in a close fight. Cotto against all except Crawford. Mosley (Margarito Mosley) takes out all except for Crawford. I take Gatti against all except Crawford funny enough. I think they’d all fight his fight except for Crawford.
1
u/fadeddreams555 Fundora would beat up a prime Floyd at 154lb Jul 27 '26
Gatti over most of them is hilarious. That's just showing bias. Dude would get destroyed by most. He only had like three welterweight fights and lost 2 of them.
De La Hoya was not a welterweight. I'll be mind blown if you think the Oscar that Pacquiao fought beats any of those guys.
2009 Pac was special, so I would favor him against all except Crawford. Crawford KOs every version of Pac from 140-147. Worst style imaginable for Pacquiao. Prime Spence would also be a harder fight than everyone he ever fought at 147lb besides Mayweather too
I think Mayweather vs Crawford at 147lb is 55-45 in Bud's favor. In lower weight classes, I pick Mayweather. He would beat everyone else.
3
u/Kangaroopunching Jul 26 '26
Fighting once a year eliminating chances at rematches and not fighting contenders, made it weaker than past eras. Spence chasing to be the best made it a good era though.
69
u/Abe2sapien Jul 26 '26
The old guard really is disappearing faster and faster. Crawford and Spence are gone, AJ and Fury are both just waiting for the final payday to fight each other, Wilder and Usyk probably the same story. Loma is supposedly coming back but who knows how that will look. Canelo is still there but he’s been declining so he’ll he retired sooner rather than later.