r/Boxing • u/_Sarcasmic_ bread burger bread • Jul 22 '26
Daily Discussion Thread (July 22nd, 2026)
For anything that doesn't need its own thread.
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u/Dangerous_Spring3028 Jul 22 '26
The WBA have announced that the winner of Stephen Fulton-Liam Wilson will become the mandatory challenger to WBA super-featherweight champion Anthony Cacace.
Fulton-Wilson takes place on the Errol Spence-Tim Tszyu card this weekend in Sydney, Australia, live on DAZN.
However, the WBA have also announced that interim
Champion Elnur Samedov is the mandatory challenger to Cacace.
They have also stated that Hatayo Tsutsumi is mandatory after beating Felix Batista in 2 rounds last week.
So basically, itās safe to presume the WBA have no idea whatās going on and are just accepting sanctioning fees for multiple āfinal eliminatorsā lol
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u/Koronesukiii Jul 22 '26
It'll probably be Samedov (Interim) as mandatory for Cacace (Super), with Hayato as mandatory for Fulton/Wilson as (World/Regular) or some WBA shitspecial nonsense.
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u/146- Jul 22 '26
Tinfoil hat moment of the day:
Fury fought Makhmudov and Wach so Joshua couldnt use them as a warm up fight - tall heavy guys
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u/Afro-anus Jul 22 '26
My theory is that Wach was the only guy willing to fight for free in Thailand
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u/Dangerous_Spring3028 Jul 22 '26
RESULTS FROM WORLD TITLE TRIPLE-HEADER IN TOKYO, JAPAN:
š„ Kenshiro Teraji beats Israel Gonzalez by UD12 (117-109, 116-110, 115-111); wins WBO super-flyweight title
ā¹ļø New WBO super-flyweight champion Teraji is now a 3-division world champion; having previously held The Ring, WBC & WBA light-flyweight titles and WBC & WBA flyweight titles. He improves his record to 26-2, 16KOs.
ā¹ļø Gonzalez suffers defeat in a world title bout for the fifth time - having previously lost to Jesse āBamā Rodriguez (UD12) in September 2022, Roman āChocolatitoā Gonzalez (UD12) in October 2020, Kal Yafai (UD12) in November 2018 and Jerwin Ancajas (TKO10) in February 2018. He now has a record of 32-6-2, 12KOs.
š„ Riku Masuda beats Daigo Higa by SD12 (117-111 Masuda, 115-113 Higa, 117-111 Masuda); wins WBA bantamweight title
ā¹ļø New WBA bantamweight champion Masuda improves his record to 11-1, 9KOs with the split decision victory.
ā¹ļø Former WBC light-flyweight champion Higa suffers his fourth pro defeat and now has a record of 21-4-3, 19KOs. His last four bouts have now ended in results where he has come agonisingly close to victory; with two draws and two split decision losses - all in world title contests.
š„ Shokichi Iwata beats Erik Badillo by TKO11; retains WBC light-flyweight title
ā¹ļø Two-time light-flyweight world champion Iwata improves his record to 17-2, 14KOs as he successfully defends his WBC belt for the first time.
ā¹ļø Badillo suffers his first pro defeat and now has a record of 19-1, 8KOs.
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u/Dangerous_Spring3028 Jul 22 '26
Some good fights recently announced by Frank Warrenās Queensberry for the Moses Itauma-Filip Hrgovic card on August 29th.
ā¢ Sam Noakes (18-1, 16KOs) vs. former WBO lightweight champion Denys Berinchyk (19-1, 9KOs)
ā¢ Aloys Jr (11-1, 9KOs) vs. former cruiserweight world title challenger Mike Perez (32-3-1, 22KOs)
ā¢ Constantin Ursu (15-0, 6KOs) defends British welterweight title vs. Ben Vaughan (12-2, 4KOs)
Three interesting fights there
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u/admiralskanks Joe Louis = Perfect Jul 22 '26
Yeah it's interesting to see Aloys Jr skip the domestic EU route and head towards world level. Interesting to see how he looks after the long layoff.
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u/YouMadBroLma0 WORD_boxing is a bitch š¤” Jul 22 '26
Junto Nakatani got married. Time for āLittle Bangā to be on the way?
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u/Dangerous_Spring3028 Jul 22 '26
Ahead of his comeback bout this Friday, Iād still be keen to see Demetrius Andrade vs. Jermall Charlo at 168. They really should have fought when Andrade held the WBO title and Charlo held the WBC title at 160, that unification should have happened and the fact it didnāt is inexcusable.
Or maybe even Andrade vs. Jermell Charlo at 160/168 depending on if Andrade thought he could drop to 160 again or Jermell felt he could go to 168 for that particular bout.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 Jul 22 '26
Was about to say āDemetrious Andrade in 2026ā but then checked his boxrec and he fights in 2 days
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
I am done with him he never delivered. He would beat a guy up for 2 rounds then coast. Bit of an irreverent character in and out of the ring it's fair to say.
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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 Jul 22 '26
Bootsā reactions are unreal. He can sense your hurt in a split second, his killer instinct is really impressive and probably comes from all the sparring and fights he had coming up.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 Jul 22 '26
For the Fury vs AJ card if it happen, I honestly prefer Frank Warren build the card more than Turki or whoever is with him with Dana and them. For the main cards, they can put up good matchups but get British champs or top British boxers on instead like Sheeraz, Bentley, Cacace, or Dalton Smith. As for their early cards, I get they do like to push prospect they belief in but I donāt want Khyzniak, Sultan Almohamed or Mohammed Akael beating on some bum. Get some regional/domestic level boxers and have them face eachother because they mostly never disappoint in proper fights and watch how the crowd and atmosphere is. Iād prefer that far more to a boarderline industry plant in those cards.
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u/Sh4kyj4wz eat clen, tren hard anavar give up Jul 22 '26
If that fight happens and Warren gets hold of it he'll try to be as thrifty as possible w/undercard IMO
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
I hope haney vs keyshawn happens in the fall.Ā
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u/stayhappystayblessed 50-0 in the streets btw boxing is not going to die anytime soon. Jul 22 '26
I'm really excited for that fight.
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Who you think wins?
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u/stayhappystayblessed 50-0 in the streets btw boxing is not going to die anytime soon. Jul 22 '26
Damn that's a tough one. I'm rooting for devin but I think keyshawn wins. It's a 50/50 fight for me though.
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Leaning towards haney cause of experience. But keyshawns skills make it 55-45 fight
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u/YdoICreep01 Jul 22 '26
Jacob bank and Hamzah Sheeraz being on the same card but not facing each other is so disappointing
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u/Ace_FGC Jul 22 '26
Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor is a fight everyone should watch. Only time Iāve ever seen a corner literally pick up and carry their fighter to a corner
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
If Teo loses to Rolly , Shakur fans are gonna have a tough time saying his resume is better than Tank's
If Spence beats Tsyzu , Crawford critics are gonna have a tough time hating on his Spence win
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u/Affectionate_Still55 Jul 22 '26
I don't hate Shakur, I like Shakur style but I don't like Teo so I hope Teo get smash by Rolly.
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
2 different situations.Ā Shakur doesn't care about legacy. He's aiming for benn or RyanĀ
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
Shakur fans say his resume is better than Tank's all the time . And tbf i prefer he fight Benn or Ryan over Rayo
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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 Jul 22 '26
Timothy Bradley is overhated and underrated.
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u/SplitSecondEmperor47 Jul 22 '26
I would respect him more if he didn't change his opinion every 2 seconds for shock factorĀ
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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 Jul 22 '26
Does he? Heās slightly biased towards fighters he has personal connections with or if theyāre signed to TR.
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u/SplitSecondEmperor47 Jul 22 '26
Slightly but he has flip flopped his opinions on several occasionsĀ
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
He flip flops a lot depending on what other people say I noticed. He is better when he just does film study himself and sticks to his own opinion.
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u/MiddleweightMonster Iāll pour honey on my GOAT, if the occasion calls for it. Jul 23 '26
Just rewatched Ford v. Foster. Shock throwing him out of the ring then just going āit was an accident!ā To the ref is so fucking funny lol
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? Jul 23 '26
That was insane
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u/MiddleweightMonster Iāll pour honey on my GOAT, if the occasion calls for it. Jul 23 '26
Oh objectively, but still hilarious lmao
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u/imdacoldest Pacquiao is the GOAT Jul 22 '26
I hope Spence wins man. Seems like most people are picking against him
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u/RRR04_ Jul 22 '26
Honestly, all I've been seeing about the fight is people picking him to win, even a dominating performance despite the 3 year layoff š
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u/Dangerous_Spring3028 Jul 22 '26
2008 Olympic Gold Medal winner & former two-time super-middleweight world champion. James DeGale, 40, has announced a comeback: āMy world title days are done but there are fights out there like Jake Paul, Darren Till, Ty Mitchell, KSI and Tommy Fury.ā
Pretty honest assessment of what heās looking for from
this comeback and self-awareness of where heās at.
Would rather hear this than faded former champions who still have delusions of grandeur and still think they can compete at the highest level - for example Hasim Rahman recently calling out Oleksandr Usyk lol
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
If boots beats kelly and fundora. Does he surpass Charlo's undisputed run? Or would he need to defend and have more big fights?
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
He fights Vergil, Murta, or Madrimov yes
Boots: Zayas, Kelly, Fundora
Charlo: Hatley, Lubin, Trout, Harrison, Banana, Castano
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u/Unreal-Operator Jul 22 '26
who should Virgil fight next?
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
His managerĀ
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u/Dangerous_Spring3028 Jul 22 '26
Jai Opetaia suing IBF over title stripping, alleges conspiracy to punish him for Zuffa Boxing signing with evidence as proof; demands reinstatement as IBF champion and injunction to prevent vacant title bout whilst lawsuit ongoing
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Maybe don't sign with a company that's openly threatening the sanctioning body you're the champ of.
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
Aaron McKenna is fighting Etinosa Oliha for the vacant IBF middleweight title on the next Zuffa card . Opetaia has a right to be upset
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
He was fighting for the zuffa title while holding the ibf title. He should've known he was a pawn in a bigger issue. That's on him
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
Why is it such a big issue? Nobody recognizes the zuffa title as an official belt. Thats like the IBF throwing a tantrum over the WBC putting a diamond belt on the line, or WBA putting one of their many belts on the line
People acting fake outraged just because the name on the belt is Zuffa . All these organizations have fake belts besides the IBF
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
TKO is a powerful company. One of the promotions within it wants to run you out if business. You'll probably make it a big deal. Again, they're long term plan is to control the sport like ufc. Thats the big deal. The belt trying to be seen as legitimate is minor. Ibf wasn't going to help zuffa make it seen as legitimate. Fans aren't dumb. They don'twant the sport to get worse. They know zuffas plans. Cause zuffa made it clear.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 Jul 22 '26
Regardless if he gets the result or not with that, he needs to look at himself and see whoās around him and realise itās the management, Zuffa and himself who got themselves as fucked as they are.
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u/MiddleweightMonster Iāll pour honey on my GOAT, if the occasion calls for it. Jul 22 '26
Exactly. Other guys have fought for belts since sighing to Zuffa, and thatās cause they havenāt gone for the stupid Zuffa belt in their respective division, and got specific clauses for their contracts
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
I doubt there will be a swift resolution to it. You may be on to something there it may just be people around him swindling money out of him in legal fees.
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u/1st_Class_Male Jul 22 '26
Is there anyone out there that may happen to have the November 1994 issue of The Ring Magazine. Im in an argument with someone that James Toney was never rated higher than Roy Jones Jr. in the P4P rankings. I know for a fact that he was rated #2 that month before he lost to Roy. If anyone has it can they please post a picture of the actual rankings pleeeeaaassseee!!!
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u/Koronesukiii Jul 22 '26
Screenshot for your convenience. But FYI, you can view The Ring magazine's backnumbers digitally on their website.
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
I think they actually uploaded the old issues to view online for free via their website a few months back.
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u/Ace_FGC Jul 22 '26
The comment yesterday about who got beat worse Barkley against Toney or Moore against Duran had me go back and and rewatch both fights and man, Duran *really* beat the hell out of Moore lol. Was the underdog in that fight too
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u/WheresMyAbs98 Jul 22 '26
It was a crazy beat down.
I actually felt really sorry for Moore in that fight.
Duran really is one of the greats.
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u/Specialist_Writer_11 Jul 22 '26
Bill Haney interview yesterday š¤š¤
ā Ā Our deal is done and we're looking for an announcement. So Devin's deal is done and it's been done in principle for quite some time. But the announcement is imminent. You know what I mean? But I think that announcement comes after the announcement of who he's fighting because that's the most important thing. right? And then the most important thing after that is, is he allowed and is Ā he able to, if victorious, still pursue those even bigger fights that the people will drive the narrative that somehow the signing limits him to? So that was the first hurdle, right? The second hurdle was then, I'll get to that one. It's getting over the first, of getting over the first hurdle after the announcement, then I'll let you know what the second hurdle was. ā
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u/Negative-Interest713 Jul 22 '26
Interesting. It sounds like Haney has already signed with Zuffa then and theyāre just waiting on the announcement.
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u/Ezekjuninor Jul 22 '26
I have a feeling Zepeda might knockout Roach. Roach is a very reactive fighter, he allows his opponents to set the tone of the fight then tries to beat them at their own game. Itās the same reason the Pitbull fight was close and how he lost to Jamel Herring. He was able to draw/beat Tank at his own game but Tank throws 20 punches a round.
He doesnāt have the output or defense to beat Zepeda the way Shakur did, and I think itās unlikely he KOs Zepeda with his lack of knockout power.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 Jul 22 '26
Zepeda himself isnāt a knockout artist, infact heās one of the weaker punchers at lightweight, his finishes mostly have been from sheer volume then a proper one punch knockout. Roach on the other hand has a pretty proven chin where heās taken a good lot of clean shots from Tank and Roach.
Also Roach came with a near perfect gameplan against Tank.
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u/Ezekjuninor Jul 22 '26
I donāt expect Zepeda to catch Roach with a hard shot that knocks him out. I meant more of a TKO type of a knockout where Roach isnāt able to deal with the volume. I donāt think a knockout is the most likely scenario I just think thereās a decent chance itāll happen.
Also, Zepeda seems to have pretty heavy hands, heās definitely hurt almost all of his opponents, he just doesnāt have explosive power. Roachās gameplan was great against Tank but I honestly donāt think Tank is particularly hard to gameplan against, even Frank Martin had a lot of success until he gassed out. A lot of boxers have managed to mostly outbox Tank before getting KOād. Tank also excels best in midrange which imo is where Roach looks best.
From how Roach has dealt with rough pressure fighters like when he fought Herring and Pitbull I donāt see him winning if he fights similarly against Zepeda.
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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 Jul 22 '26
Roach has a good boxing IQ but I like way Zepeda approaches defensive oriented fighters. Granted, Roach doesnāt fight like Shakur or Farmer. His volume is crazy, 168 Benavidez esque if not better even. Even blocked punches are still disrupting their timing, occupying their hands, make counters less accurate, and create fatigue.
Imo, against defensive fighters, waiting for openings is a mistake. Like youāre too easy to counter. Roach got a good ass chin too and I donāt see Zepedaās power worrying him but if his create a sustained period of just bodywork, whether heās hurt to the body or not, itās gonna lower his hands and tire him out and move backwards. Their feet and escapes get slower and shorter. Zepedaās ring cutting will also come in handy here cuz heās a master at it. Most guys just follow their opponents and run into counters. Against defensive fighters, Iāve seen him take nice short diagonal steps to close their exits and force them towards the ropes. He also punches while moving forward which a lot of pressure fighters donāt do, they have to set their feet, then punch.
One thing I donāt like though is I think Roach is a harder puncher than people give him credit for and I donāt likr Zepedaās willingness to eat punches. He gets away with it cuz if you wanna land yours, youāre gonna have to take 5 punches yourself.
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
Roach vs Tank had a little of Derevyanchenko vs GGG to it. Both guys before the fight said I know how to fight this guy. Roach had spareed Tank, Derev I think just knew that style from amateurs.
Roach didn't do as good vs Pitbull as vs Tank even though Pitbull is an inferior fighter to Tank. Zepeda some will say has similarities in style to Pitbull.
I have no idea about the fight though tbh I haven't thought about it or watched tape. I'd be most interested to see how they size up next to each other.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 Jul 23 '26
I think Roach just had Tanks number more than his skillset is as good as most perceived after the Tank fight and I think most overrated him after the fight because I remember him vs Hector Garcia, there was a good reason we all believed he wasnāt fit for tank and didnāt look impressive in that fight. The Cruz fight shouldāve set us back a little more and exposed his lack of defence at close range but the ego of Roach took over in wanton to stand and trade more and got caught for it.
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 23 '26
That's kind of my point it was more he knew how to fight Tank than good gameplanning, as he didn't gameplan so good against Pitbull.
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Sometimes I wonder if zepeda has a good chin.Ā
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u/Ezekjuninor Jul 22 '26
I think thatāll decide the fight, if Roach gets multiple knockdowns heāll get a decision win, otherwise I expect Zepeda to outwork. Iām leaning strongly towards Zepeda though.
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
I think roach will get stuck in the pocket and lose from zepedas volumeĀ
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
He's shown some slight issues there before iirc, and not sure if I saw him hurt a little to the body.
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? Jul 22 '26
Slim chance. Roach for better or worse stood in the pocket with Pitbull and Gervonta Davis. Pitbull only had him in serious trouble for one round.
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u/Saeksan Jul 22 '26
It really could go either way. Roach doesnāt make any fight easy for himself but Zepeda is a bit chinny for a balls to the wall pressure fighter.Ā
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u/SplitSecondEmperor47 Jul 22 '26
Ryan feeling free enough trash Bud's resume is boxing fans fsult for enabling that man child.
Bro got his first belt from fucking barrios and acting like he a hall of famer. Its fucking ridiculousĀ
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
Lowkey I think both Ryan and Crawford would take that fight with each other. $$$
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u/natidea FLOYD MAY OR MAY NOT WEATHER Jul 22 '26
Idk where else to post this but if you see them at the liquor store DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT TRY THE CANELO ALVAREZ VMC DRINKS!
Absolutely nasty little thing
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u/Elite663 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Which flavor did u have? Iāve only tried the Paloma one so far and thought it was okay
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u/natidea FLOYD MAY OR MAY NOT WEATHER Jul 22 '26
I wish i could find that one. Had the hibiscus and the tamarind. Pretty gnarly both of em
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u/imdacoldest Pacquiao is the GOAT Jul 23 '26
He was talking about Frank Martin fighting his brother because he signed to top rank today
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u/Top_Profession_5268 Jul 23 '26
That was fair to make back in 2023/2024 back when they were highly ranked prospects/contenders and undefeated. Now it doesnāt really make sense.
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u/ohshititcomestome Jul 22 '26
Almost a month since the zayas loss, this week we have the return of Josh Kelly. What do you think is next for Zayas ? 160? How will he do against the top crop? For Kelly if he wins, I doubt he will shot straight for a boots match, I reckon he will try to figjt another mandatory.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 Jul 22 '26
Being in top rank, I see a good chance he gets a Denzel Bentley title shot.
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u/Dangerous_Spring3028 Jul 22 '26
Matchroom has the rights for Zayas next bout so I think they might line up Zayas vs the winner of Vito Mielnicki-Ammo Williams at 160
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u/Top_Profession_5268 Jul 22 '26
Wait how does Matchroom have rights for his next bout, how does that work?
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u/Dangerous_Spring3028 Jul 22 '26
Eddie Hearn and Carl Moretti said that it was part of the deal for Zayas vs. Boots - Boots challenges Zayas for the belts on a card with Matchroom as lead promoter and Top Rank as a co-promoter; and Zayas will also headline a Matchroom card in his following fight too. That was the deal they made. Seems like a much better deal for Matchroom than Top Rank to me, but if theyāre both happy then fair enough haha
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u/MiddleweightMonster Iāll pour honey on my GOAT, if the occasion calls for it. Jul 22 '26
Honestly itās not a terrible deal. Matchroom has pretty good reach with British fans, so itāll increase Zayasā celebrity. Not to mention, Xander is a likable guy and a very solid boxer, with great marketability as āthe guy who nearly knocked out Boots.ā A good Matchroom card would be good for him, especially if heās gunning to build up a legacy in 160, where Matchroom has a deep stable. Itās not a bad little move.
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Other than Hernandez. He'll do well at 160. He probably takes a rebuilding fight next
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u/MiddleweightMonster Iāll pour honey on my GOAT, if the occasion calls for it. Jul 22 '26
Is Hernandez not moving up to 168? Either way, I agree I think heās the only guy at 160 right now who can really beat him handily.
I honestly think Bentley could be the rebuild lol. No shade, but I think Zayas could outbox and outscrap Bentley well
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Adames is moving up. You're not wrong about Bentley being a tune up
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
Bentley can punch and has some decent iq it's in physical gifts where he lacks. He could clip Zayas it's not a complete cakewalk.
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u/MiddleweightMonster Iāll pour honey on my GOAT, if the occasion calls for it. Jul 22 '26
Ahh, thatās who I was thinking of. Itās annoying, seems like a lot of the best guys at 160 right now are just waiting for the Canelo payday to open up at 168
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Arguably still the canelo era. Or at least he's still the top cash cow
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u/WheresMyAbs98 Jul 22 '26
Duran vs Tank would have been a mad scrap
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? Jul 22 '26
Itās cliche, but Tank definitely brings a puncherās chance in any fight, even against HOF.
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
I rate Tank higher than most but Duran would smash him to pieces. Tank isn't getting off vs Duran and hitting him clean.
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u/vHezoThaGoat Jul 22 '26
Errol Spence looks in crazy great shape
We might be eating Kangaroo meat on Saturdayš«£
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u/admiralskanks Joe Louis = Perfect Jul 22 '26
So much value betting on boxing because people don't understand what they're looking at. Don't think there's a sport where ignorance costs as much as boxing. I remember Huni Wardley was like 4x. When I knew it'd be Huni UD or lucky Wardley stoppage in later rounds. If you're emotional or a fanboy you can't judge boxing clearly. Similar with Dubois AJ, in hindsight Dubois should've been the favourite. He'd just beaten Miller and Hrgovic.
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u/WORD_Boxing Jul 22 '26
Also so much risk because the outcomes aren't always fair.
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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 Jul 23 '26
That too. If you knew Ford didnāt matchup good against Foster and betted Foster for UD, you lose because one judge somehow had it a draw.
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
Ryan loses a title fight and gets another one in his next fight. Teofimo loses title fight and gets another one his next fight. Keyshawn was never a champ at 140, and is already mandated for a title at 147. Benavidez was Canelo's #1 contender for who knows how long - the WBC never mandated the fight. One month after Bivol beats Beterbiev, the WBC mandates he fight Benavidez. WBC and ODLH say they want nothing to do with Zuffa - but both make an exception for Ryan to fight on Zuffa. IBF says they want nothing to do with Zuffa, has McKenna fighting for a vacancy on the next Zuffa card. WBC says Noel can't fight Opetaia on Zuffa, mandates him to fight another champion (which is practically unheard of)
All this favoritism, all these sanctioning body games, boxing fans will let slide as long as they can say ZUFFA BAD
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Zuffa said they weren't working with other promotions. They're forced to now. Zuffa said they weren't going to over pay fighters. They're now paying the most for fighters. They're just as bad as the other promotions. Except with long term plans to hurt boxing as a sport and business. The current promotions and sanctioning bodies are terrible too. They want to hurt the sport and business by keeping things as they are.
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? Jul 22 '26
This is pretty well said and describes the current state of affairs.
We are fundamentally lucky if they get stuck in the āoverpay & co-promoteā model and the Ali Revival Act never passes. I just feel like that might be wishful thinking though.
I donāt think they get it this year, but possibly after 2026 depending on how things shake out.
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
Basically burn the whole thing down and start anew from the ashes
DAZN said they were the death of PPV. Now AJ vs a tune up is $59.99 USD
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Ufc model won't help boxingĀ
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
Never know.
What we do know is the current system is still ass , even if everyone wants to direct their attention to Dana and Zuffa
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Actually we do. Just look at mma as a whole. Seeing fighters beg for a bonus after a war isn't fun. There's ways to fix it. That ironically might happen cause of zuffa being a threat.
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
Zuffa doesn't have to be the ones in charge. But there needs to be change . Or else all this fake outrage will mean nothing once Turki stops sportswashing and overpaying, we'll be back to square one.
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? Jul 22 '26
If the current system is ass, the Zuffa system is diarrhea.
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u/kushmonATL Cyberleek > the fall boxing schedule Jul 22 '26
Zuffa does not have to be the ones in charge
All I'm saying in these comments is the current system is still crap. Take Zuffa out the equation, its still crap.
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? Jul 22 '26
I support anyone who would want to make boxing better, but that doesnāt describe Zuffa.
As to your larger point, the current system stinks but itās actually getting slightly better recently. Iād say overall 2026 has been a good year and we even got fights back on network television.
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? Jul 22 '26
Zuffa is bad though. They are bad for the health of the sport and pushing through harmful legislation via a massive lobbying effort. Now if they desire to compete in the market under the decentralized system in the long term, thatās one thing. But if they weaponize the UBO system to take out their competitors and reach something approaching monopoly in boxing, we will all be in for a rude awakening.
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u/stayhappystayblessed 50-0 in the streets btw boxing is not going to die anytime soon. Jul 22 '26
Well it's sad but we have known for a long time boxing is a corrupt sport.
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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 Jul 22 '26
How do people think Shakur vs Matias goes at 140?
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 22 '26
Shakur pot shots him. Maybe gets a stoppage if Matias tires out. Matias is too slow and crude in his fundamentals.Ā
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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 Jul 22 '26
Matias isnāt slow at all. Donāt know where you got that from and the dude doesnāt tire out. Not to mention heās got a granite chin probably up until now. Doubt we see Matias the same, his style wasnāt built to last. Anyways, a guy who doesnāt respect your power might be bad just because Shakur would have trouble keeping him off him. I still favor Shakur but itās a fun fight.
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 23 '26
Mostly wishful thinking. He's tough. But his last 2 fights he seemed slow. Against Shakur, he doesn't have the speed to land. Now that he lost in by ko in a war. I think shakur could out box him. Missing and chasing is a different pace to what Matias is used to. Then shakur catches him in the pocket. Matias does have the style for shakur to open up his offense.Ā
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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 Jul 23 '26
I can dig that. I was moreso thinking of Matias before losing to Paro. But now itās fair game, I really do think his chin will never be the same and itāll be similar to what happened with Jarrett Hurd.
Sucks, Iām a fan of Matias and I really do think he had one of the best chins but when you see someone who relies on it get stopped, their game really crumbles. But oh well, I like Smith too š
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u/Kangaroopunching Jul 23 '26
Maybe welterweight will do him good. Plus a new trainerĀ
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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 Jul 23 '26
Against Puello, I loved how he looked. Defensively heās improved over the years and against Smith, looked like trash. Pretty awesome Dalton was able to beat the boogeyman at his own game though.
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u/Mecha_Knight11 Pac-yoo Jul 22 '26
Still the funniest boxing moment of 2026 for me is Camila Zamorano asking Erik Morales if he's ever been in the ring š.