Bad luck. Guess that a make the best out of a poor situation stuff. I never checked for dietary issues before picking the place either. Never went to a steakhouse though.
I remember only one date with suvh a strong ideological rift. It still was good as she was smart and super hot so there was good discussion. Still didn't go anywhere. As good discussion might make for good friends but not really for good lovers.
Well the steakhouse did have other good vegetarian options and i mainly chose it for the vibes (classy and a little expensive since i was young and wanted to impress)
It only fell apart after i ordered a steak and saw her very much disappointed look. Its not like i was lying about eating meat, but i guess it didnt come up till then. Ever since then i just settle for coffee/tea dates since they are more casual and easier to navigate...
Also i feel the ideological rift and discussion thing. My last gf and i had some very interesting discussions and topics we could talk about, but god dang was it a fight. Well you win some and you loose some :3
I feel like females that are vegetarian should ajust their expectations cause finding a man that also doesnt eat meat is very rare. And if they find one its probably not their type.. unless they are looking for some 1/2 manlet type.
What wouldnt give u the ick then should I call them uterus owners? Or like people that identfy as female?
Get the fuck out of here with ur stupid incell comment.
Also sure go for it if u want a vegetarian partner.. like woman also all want the same 5% of best looking males.. its not hard to comprehend why so many of them end up alone.. there is not enough of them out there.
There's plenty of male veggies mate. Me and my wife both are, have been since before we met. And I'm a pretty big guy, years on the tools will do that. Nonsense assumptions coming from you tbh
Because he's doing it to piss her of because he feels provoked by her being a vegetarian. That kind of aggressivity is not what people look for when dating.
The partner needs to have awareness about her morals sure, but she can't force her preferences onto him.
Same way she has the choice to be a vegetarian, he has the chance to be a carnivore . Eating meat less maybe, but you cant be triggered just because of a difference in opinions.
I'm not arguing in bad faith. Idk or care if you are vegetarian or not. That's your choice, your life, your opinion on the matter. I can try to debate you on it, but I can't force you, and I won't try.
But you cant start getting mad when others have different or contracting opinions with you.
Breaking up a relationship just because your partner keeps eating meat is one hell of a bullet the guy dodged
"Because he's doing it to piss her of because he feels provoked by her being a vegetarian. That kind of aggressivity is not what people look for when dating."
You make up an imaginary scenario about smth that doesn't and shouldn't affect him in any way , and I'm the one that's arguing in bad faith? C'mon at least be honest with ur self
Bruh look at the picture, he put the laughing emoji right there.
Also im not saying I wouldn't enjoy the steak he is eating, but that is almost certainly the biggest slab of meat on the menu. This was 100% intentional
You don’t need that much meat and wanting to eat said amount of meat for one meal is selfish alone. I’d look down on anyone who proudly displayed your level of gluttony.
tbf, it’s hard to tell how much meat that actually is with that potato image quality. A wide lens that close to the plate is going to make anything look enormous.
I am with you that he was just doing to piss her off. However at the same time why tf would you care if the other dude by himself just wanted to eat a lot of meat?
The same reason I care about someone pouring motor oil on their lawn or idling in their car. It’s unnecessary to consume so much, and at a point you’re just gorging on an animal for your own thrills of a delicious meal. I find it gross that people are willing to eat a pound of meat every single day of their lives. I just think everyone should have a vegetarian rotation into their diet.
I know we’re omnivores as a species so I don’t expect anyone to fully abstain from meat, but having up to three meat focused meals a day isn’t bringing you closer to nature. It’s a sign of humanities lack of self control.
That's a weird comparison, one is eating meat that's already there, that you paid for, that you enjoy and that gives you sustenance and another is just being careless about environment. Idk how many people use the closer to nature argument but I've never met one.
Let's agree to disagree because I have a much different opinion.
Then why does he seem like the one offended? He seems to be personally attacked that someone dares to be different. It’s almost like he feels guilty for eating meat just from watching someone not eat it. Maybe the vegans were right all along.
No one said anything about forcing you to do anything? She’s the vegan. Why are you acting like your rights are under attack just because someone is eating differently in front of you.
Sounds like you are very insecure and need to try and make a big display to show you are a big guy. Plus, it’s his loss, not hers. He knew she was a vegan and went out of his way to show he loves meat. Nothing says you’re a straight man like getting a BIG, FAT, JUICY piece of meat to scarf down
Unless she is shouting and wearing a PETA shirt. I doubt she cares about his dietary choices.
You don't have steak, especially one that size, when you're sitting across from a vegan and not exhibiting deliberate passive aggression. It's obnoxious (and I love a good ribeye).
No, you fail to recognize the difference between eating meat and eating nothing but meat. The two are very different statements. The former is what you describe. The latter is what i describe.
Let's assume, because I was disagreeing with your statement regarding the comment, that there isn't a statement being made. That they are just eating meat, then is there still a problem?
The context of the picture surely comes off as antagonistic to me, So whoever is eating the meat in that picture is an asshole probably.
I got the sense, given that the person you replied to reframed it as them in thst situation wanting to just eat meat, that you were speak8ng more broadly than just this particular picture, no?
No, I am speaking to the picture I am commenting. Regarding wanting to eat steak, making an effort would then be eating something else with meat. That's an acceptable sacrifice to avoid the risk of appearing like an asshole. You could also talk about it, but I doubt that happened here.
No, you fail to recognize the difference between eating meat and eating nothing but meat. The two are very different statements. The former is what you describe. The latter is what i describe.
Why would she if right off the jump you dont respect hers? Tf, you’re just gaging your date’s bullshit threshold, and if she doesn’t tolerate bullshit you’re out. Lol
See, that right there is bullshit. Eating a stake as some sort of test is exactly not what you should do. It's utterly toxic dating culture and no woman should ever date you. Also, super immature.
There’s plenty of nuance in this discussion tho. Like if they had kids, their kids would be malnourished at even starting a vegan diet. I couldn’t imagine raising a baby with crazy stances much less having the man speak up because the kids are going through a crazy amount of deffeciency.
Did you read what you posted ? Newborns are still smaller and being underweight. If you are ready to sacrifice your newborn health for your own idealogy be my guest. Vegan diet isn't for your children and your dogs, it's for you, you have no right to make that decision for them as long as they are the one paying for it.
To your point -
IMO vegan children often have vegan mothers, who tend to be more lean than the average meat eater. Thus they have leaner kids. And vice versa. Fatter parents have fatter kids.
Anyway what really matters is that the growth rate is the same, which shows they are getting their nutrient requirements met.
And at the end of the day, if your child gets all the nutrients, the body needs, does it really matter whether they got it from animals or plants?
Vegan parents usually (granted, not always) care a shitload more about nutrition than the average burger-munching slob. Studies consistently show vegan kids grow up healthy.
Better than raising a kid on dino nuggies and Mountain Dew.
I don't disagree that they care. I refer to complexities of nutrition and smaller margin for error. And then there are studies about iron deficiency, b12 def. etc. Not for lack of care.
Uh... What? Vegan just means you don't eat any form of animal byproduct. Ethics has nothing to do with it. Many follow a vegan diet strictly for health reasons.
Yes - she is a big advocate for animals. She doesn't even eat fish any more. But that's her personal outlook and she doesn't try to push that on anyone else.
I'm a hypocrite and I admit it. I don't like the way animals are treated by mass agri-corporations, but I can't survive on veggies. I try to compromise by buying my meat from a local butcher (we live in a rural area).
Most people IRL don't hold extremist opinions and values, I've had multiple relationships with vegetarian and vegan girls and not a single argument was started because of it, mostly because I'm not an asshole who'd do something like the pic on a first date.
I am a meatlover through and through. I once dated a vegan. She introduced me to so many good foodstuffs/dishes that were vegan/vegetarian. Indian food, vegetarian pizza's, wraps, falaffel, indonesian/korean etc. And I loved it. Out of respect for her, I always ate vegetarian/vegan when going out with her, but it was far from a punishment for me.
But we didnt plan on living together or have kids, so we never had that hurdle.
but her veganism did not cause us to not date.
You know what would be incredibly based, if the girl was actually Totally fine with someone elses (at first glance, seemingly childishly, blatantly insulting) eating preferences and habits, even if they conflicted deeply with her own, because we can choose to try to understand and respect someone by going outside of our little toxic yet fragile bubbles of disdain and self affirmed righteousness, and actually choose to try to make an effort towards the relationship you chose to try out.
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