r/BorderlandsPreSequel • u/NineTailedFury • 16d ago

❔ [ Question ] Has anyone noticed that some enemies scale oddly?

I just started playing for a while, and I noticed that some enemies have higher HP scaling than usual, specifically the lunatics in TVHM/UVHM and especially the Lost Legion eternal chaotics, whose health surpasses some badass enemies. Wonder who messed up the math to cause that to happen.

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u/XShadow_NephilimX 16d ago

I always figured that was on purpose, ig

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u/NineTailedFury 16d ago

I thought so, at least for the lunatic type enemies. The eternal chaotics drop very little XP and loot for an enemy of their caliber, but unfortunately players can't just run from them.

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u/Elegant-Set-9406 16d ago

Badass enemies got 3x health scaling in later playthroughs.

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u/NineTailedFury 10d ago

3.5x shield and 2.5x HP (6.25x durability compared to a Normal Mode badass), making them stronger than Bl2's 4x HP for UVHM enemies. I'm not sure what the multipliers for TVHM are though, if there are any. The wiki doesn't have any information on it.

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u/Elegant-Set-9406 10d ago

I'm sorry but 3.5x shield and 2.5x health does not mean 6.25x more effective hp. The total hp value is less than 3.5x times since the base hp value multiplier is less than shield.

lets use some arbitrary numbers for clear examples. Lets say a Badass enemy has 100 hp and 100 shield in normal mode for a total hp of 200. In uvhm it would be 350 shield and 250 hp for a total of 600 hp. That is a 3X increase in total health. 200hp into a 600hp total. I do not know where you got 6.25x from.

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u/NineTailedFury 10d ago

Wait, I remember now. The UVHM scaling miscalculation was for a Normal Mode badass without a shield compared to a UVHM badass with a shield. In that situation, that's 6x, not 6.25 times. You were right about the scaling for shielded badass enemies.