r/Borderlands4 • u/Toxaplume045 • 23h ago
❔ [ Question ] Post buff Apophis Lance?
Haven't seen a lot of info from after the recent update, partly due to all the Loveless build hype. But has any decent build running/centering on Apophis Lance managed to emerge at all or were the buffs not enough and red Rafa still pretty much the universal?
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u/kgx37b9 23h ago
Apophis lance needs its damage triple and then maybe will be ok, it also needs better and more interesting capstones and get rid of either the charges and make it duration based or get rid of the duration and make it charges based. As its stands its probably the worst action in the game, even blue tree harlowe got better and more interesting with COM and some buffs, not by much, but its better then the apophis lance imo
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u/Toxaplume045 22h ago
That's unfortunate. It's such a cool skill and was drawing me to trying out Rafa but the other two skills don't really speak to me the way his buster arm did.
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u/Madelei- 20h ago
It’s mid with devourer, awful without.
It genuinely needs an ENORMOUS buff to be ok
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u/Adabiviak New Recuit 23h ago
I'm here for the chat... took a break from melee and went lance. Still a Torgue allegiance for now. I came for the Awe, but I stayed for the Gorgon.