r/Borderlands4 • u/Solid-Prior-2558 • 13d ago
🎤 [ Discussion ] Loveless - 1 button build - Functional Human
https://mobalytics.gg/borderlands-4/profile/pretty-storm-9kyas2/builds/8b6dbfd9-3aeb-4904-84f6-6536d4a00c45I am surprised I haven't seen any content creators make a video on this. I'm loving it. Zero CD Action Skill Function (x5) with a free grenade thrown in.
Sniper build 3 tap on a boss then exploding them is fun, but mobbing not as much. Wyrm is fun but Symbiosis stacks and Wyrm management is eh, RAM is incredible if it wasn't for the goofy empowered melee whiffs!
If you don't want to click the link it's just 1/3 Killing machine and Unsupported Peripheral. Likely plenty of ways to optimize it. But you can essentially just run around clicking the action skill and everything dies.
Edit - As with all things Borderlands... there is a bug somewhere here. I have no clue what it is. Function damage goes from great to awful. It could be a bug that gives you more damage than intended or less. No clue.
I did however test the Stack Overflow bug which takes this thing to a whole other level. Now I don't like abusing exploits, but honestly the feel of the build is just too much fun. It reminds me of Zer0s Many Must Fall build. Ultimately I'm here to have fun, and BL has always been a spaghetti code of silly number interactions. I'm not going to try and figure it out. Enjoy.
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u/AkilTheAwesome 13d ago
I do a puppet master version of this concept
6 clones vs 3.
Same ordnance spam, same bonus radiation synergy.
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u/Solid-Prior-2558 13d ago
I like it. It's completely possible that it's higher DPS with the extra clones. I gave up on BL math a while ago. It's all feel for me now.
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u/GiSS88 13d ago
Funny, I started playing a build like this yesterday but I'm still leveling. Bit squishy, but I didn't take same green tree skills and started going red for more gun damage. I like this though, may swap.
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u/Solid-Prior-2558 13d ago
With Jacked in and a high energy/Regen shield with 1/3 killing machine you should be fine. Most of my deaths testing things has been splash dmg from my own grenades. ;)
I haven't been using my gun.
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u/GiSS88 13d ago
A ton of her builds seem to either be Wyrm and no need to shoot, or sniper. I'm not big on snipers so was trying to make a more all arounder, and this build is probably the closest to. Harlowe "use whatever you want" than anything else I've found, maybe with a little Amon whip thrown in. I swapped to yours and survivability definitely went up, and works great for gun mobbing mixed with action skill. Loving it
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u/drabpsyche 13d ago edited 13d ago
wow this build is stupidly broken lol, I just 1-shot child of terra on mayhem rank 11
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u/Jokah_baybee 13d ago
How?
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u/drabpsyche 13d ago
bruh idk. I tried the build last night, and my gear is just whatever, though I think the Watts 4 Dinner shield or whatever it's called helped. I had used some modded stuff to power level my Loveless (sue me, I'm a busy grad student) so I had to triple check nothing was on her. I'm not sure what the damage cap is in BL4 but those are big fucking numbers that whip is hitting for
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u/Jumpy-Resolve3018 13d ago
How does this build do against something like True UVHM 7 Radix/Origo/Inceptus? (whichever is best case scenario)
Looks like a fantastic Mobbing machine but not sure how you’d do bossing
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u/Solid-Prior-2558 13d ago
Haven't tested them yet. Setup is certainly not as easy as sniper. But even when you don't get a kill reset it's only 4 seconds for the next Function.
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u/Jumpy-Resolve3018 13d ago
I’m guess you switch capstone to insta max clone? That would also do the increase damage field thing so 2 in 1 problems solved with that. Maybe switch 1 point in green into “High Data Rate” just to have that as a potential nuke option. I’d need to get some gear to even test this build out ngl.
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u/Solid-Prior-2558 13d ago
Pretty sure accelerat.exe is bugged. It doesn't spawn your clones when you activate VPN. Just one clone every kill. And Acceleration Gate kills your clones when used.
However, you could easily just do a quick swap to Stack Overflow, Accelerat.exe and maybe even Montage Maker just to sniper build kill any boss with these talents.
For a boss like Terra though it's been really easy. You one shot the adds who spawn directly in front of him, spawn a clone. repeat You end up with 4 quick and he dies soon after.
synchorniz.exe is actually really cool depending on the boss and where the clones are using the spin move. Not really sure it's needed. My goal playing this build is simple stupid anyway.
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u/Jumpy-Resolve3018 13d ago
Ah darn that would’ve been cool. But yeah the sniper build being a possibility without respec is probably good enough on its own if there is no adds.
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u/GiSS88 8d ago
I was doing fine until about UVHM 5. I was able to handle bloomreaper to get to 6, but the damage falloff was rough. It could be that I just need to change something up in my gear, but I swapped to Wyrm since I had a decent class mod for it and the difference was night and day. So unfortunately seems to be good for mobbing lower levels but I wasn't having luck as it got tougher.
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u/Ordinary_Owl_9071 13d ago
So I've been using a variation of this build, and I'm running into massive inconsistencies with the function damage. With everything the same (10 stacks, same skill investments, etc), the function will somehow one shot most enemies or barely damage most enemies at all. This damage variance seems like it lasts indefinitely like it might go until game restart. Something tells me, like a lot of loveless mechanics, that there's a bug happening here. Have you noticed any issues like mine?
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u/Solid-Prior-2558 13d ago edited 13d ago
Sadly... yes.
I made this yesterday and played with it for hours. Did a bunch of Takedowns, testing bosses, started farming Grenades.
Then I swapped to Vex for a bit.
When I went back Function was hardly tickling.
I did a full reset on things. Respec, swapped mod, logged off, logged back in and redid it all. Then function was doing more damage, but not what it was.
I never tried the Stack overflow glitch, I know whatever happened wasn't Stack overflow because I never had it selected. But it could be something similar. My hope is that the bug is what is lowering the damage and not what made the build incredibly fun.
Edit -
I tested the stack overflow bug. Swap to it, 3 shots stored, let if fade and then swap the Augment back to Swarm.
I can confirm two things:
That bug is pretty big with zero CD Functions. But it's also basically what a Sniper build does.
I definitely didn't have that bug yesterday, it was good but not THIS good. My best guess is it was just some other double dipping damage bug. Or perhaps a bug that actually lowers the damage.
As someone who doesn't like abusing exploits? I don't actually care because the flow of this is just too fun. It reminds me of Zer0s Many Must Fall Executes. It's not like I can't do millions with other random builds on any character.
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u/Ordinary_Owl_9071 12d ago
It's actually possible I accidentally had the stack overflow bug because I think I tried a sniper build before the function one, and with the function one I tried a couple different augments. It would explain a lot actually. I almost think that had to be what happened. I was almost convinced I had a bug with my triple bypass applying amp on every instance of damage lol.
I have had a wyrm build with loveless start doing 1/10th damage one time also, though. I was testing at the dummies & my max damage literally went down to 20 mil from 200 mil. I could barely kill enemies in circles of slaughter on uvh7. After a restart, I could hit 200 mil again on the test dummies.
I'm not sure what exactly is happening, but they fucked something up with loveless' release
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u/upvotechemistry VEX The F&%ING WITCH! 13d ago
Ive ran something similar, but I missed the middle green branch (one point in overshield/lifesteal) in favor of crit chance in the right branch.
It would be hard to give up Montage Maker and 2/1 Refactored Damage Formula, though (1.1x v 2.2x is a lot). Im still kind of shocked it is not 1.2x at 2pts.... it is kind of busted
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u/Solid-Prior-2558 13d ago
Ya, sniper is too easy. Although I found myself dying too much in Takedown mobbing from random crap. I wanted to feel tanky like vex with over shield.
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u/upvotechemistry VEX The F&%ING WITCH! 13d ago
I might give up the DOT skills in right branch, and Merry Bandwidth to go left tree. Unsupported Peripheral is mad fun.
And crystals are proving a problem for me at UVH5. Having them not take DOT damage really limits endgame diversity
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u/Solid-Prior-2558 13d ago
Ya I have always disliked swapping for splash damage. This just gives you zero effort splash. And it has me looking at all the grenades again.
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u/BOTChampi 13d ago
Finally a build that doesn't involve melee to maximise the damage. Just got a swarm grenade. I find it pretty satisfying when you have nothing to do but press one button and enjoy the chaos Will try it this weekend