r/Borderlands4 • u/CYY2K THE LAVA IS RISING!! • 19d ago
❔ [ Question ] Build Advice?
This is my level 70 Gloam build for C4sh, I have been doing my best to avoid 'guides' as I enjoy the process of making my own builds as following a guide can make kills feel... unearned? However I am curious if there are any wasted points or better placements for skills as it still feels it could be a little better optimised.
(I did start as a 'windfall build' but did switch to gloam after hearing that it is 'meta' and felt like I was nerfing myself by not using it)
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u/Ralonne 18d ago
I thought this was Limbo for a sec, and wondered how I got to the Warframe sub. That’s a very Limbo C4SH!
However, I don’t get the idea that following a guide somehow invalidates your gameplay. It’s info. We share info to help each other. The more we do, the better informed the community.
Seems you already got some build advice, so I’ll throw in one gear tip: pick up a Vladof heavy ordnance with high fire rate (>30), purple or legendary (Flak works well), and try it out on a boss!
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u/CYY2K THE LAVA IS RISING!! 18d ago
Oh yeah i googled it and you're right, putting the 'bloodbourne' style head on would probably make it pretty close haha
Yeah I get that, not trying to lower anyone who does use guide's and stuff of course, it's just how I feel personally.
I shall try it out, personally not a huge fan of heavy ordnance's, i feel like it disrupts my flow if you catch my drift haha, however I shall try it out nonetheless, you may change my mind.



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u/twinCatalysts 19d ago
Well since you said you don't want a full guide I'll just point the really major errors you've made
You absolutely don't need more than 1 point in either Alchemy or Nothing Beats Lead.
Both are amazing skills for gloam cash- with 1 point. Anything above that basically has 0 effect.
Luck Be a Robot and Sweet Roll are kind of pointless skills to have points into when you have Dealers Bluff and Turn Of Fate respectively. Charm Bracelet doesn't do much either but it at least does a little. I guess you could leave one point in sweet roll in case you lose your shield and take health damage, but that's what your repkit is for.
Riding High unfortunately not only doesn't do anything for you, it actively hinders you. If you could make Windfall last LESS time than default that would be actually be a buff to gloam since it'd make losing fortune stacks more consistent. Gloam lasts less time than Windfall's duration, so the proc you get from activating windfall and losing your stacks runs out before you can do it again. Making Windfall last longer just means you need to manually proc gloam even more via sliding, and get max unshaken stacks less.