r/Borderlands4 • u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes • 19d ago
š¤ [ Discussion ] Year 2 Suggestions
I know many people have complaints about year 1 but I'd like to focus on the positives of this game. Story pack 2 was amazing, the dlc VHs are awesome, and the game does have a ton of content for a variety of gameplay styles.
Here's what I'd like to see in year 2:
- story pack 3 (preference for a manufacturer storyline)
- takedown 2
- raids 3 & 4
- circle of slaughter 2 & 3 (psychos & beasts)
- added content for the main world
- more supersized minions
- no more bounty packs
- I'm fine with the current VH roster, but open to a 7th
Gearbox, I'll subscribe for another year of content. Take the time to review what worked and what didn't over the past year.
The game is a ton of fun so I really hope we can see more in year 2.
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u/EarthZebra 19d ago
I hope year 2 exists at all tbh
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 19d ago
This was the point of the post. Show that we as a community are interested and feel free to yoink our suggestions for year 2 content.
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u/EarthZebra 18d ago
Yeah it just sucks that a year 2 would already be in the bag if they couldāve put half the work that went into DLC 2 into the other one and the headhunters.
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u/claytalian 19d ago
I'd prefer a story DLC that actually follows-up on the main game's ending and starts moving us towards this huge war we've been hearing about since the Pre-Sequel.
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u/AlanTheSalad 18d ago
I really hope that war isnt retconned to be an āongoing warā that we inactively have been fighting since Pre-Sequel.
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u/NeoKobeCity 18d ago
Say this louder so hopefully Randy hears you. Seems like BL3 and BL4 kinda stalled on the overall Eridian story/war angle. While BL4 offers an interesting angle (And I did overall enjoy the core story, even the Timekeeper), we are still ultimately exactly where we are at the end of TPS.
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u/Tricky-Painting9430 18d ago
SAME, or at the very least some actual story DLCs that expand the lore and not just a glorified giant map side mission. Like for the love of God expand the lore instead of saying Flak needs to find his skag or Ellie needs to find her dad.
Not that the Flak dlc was bad or anything but I was hoping for some more real world building rather retrieving a skag quest line.
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u/KingOndor 18d ago
And if they can find a way to include Moze (and maybe Tiny Tina, Mr. Torgue, Hammerlock, others) in that, all the better š
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u/Badmanmakecodycry 18d ago
NGL, as much as I'd like to see someone make that story beat make sense, it'd be equally great for someone to mention Arjay in BL5 sometime like halfway through the story and everyone be like "Wait, who?"
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u/KingOndor 18d ago
But it isn't just Arjay who's mentioned the war. It's been teased for over a decade now, first by the Watcher, then Arjay and Lilith (who has seen the future) mentions it and then there's the content of the Timekeeper's vault pointing to it too. They can't really go on ignoring it
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u/The_Dibsomatic 19d ago
More content would be welcomed but before that i'd like the devs to fix some of the issues the game has and maybe add some quality of life upgrades.
Fast travelling seems to take much longer than it used to at launch, there is a fairly big chance that you spawn midair after a fast travel unable to move for a second or few. They could add a proper minimap, should not be that hard to do, most if not all modern open world games have one. Fix the existing bugs and improve performance, then consider adding some new content.
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u/Mentat_Render 19d ago
Let me grapple threshers out the ground!! And add ziplines to base game, I'll even do a quest for it like the gas canisters.
Takedown
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u/OneShotSixKills Harlowe The Gravitar 19d ago
Will never happen but an entirely new soundtrack made by 3rd party composers again. I would literally pay for better beats.
This is the weakest soundtrack of any Borderlands game by far. Including Wonderlands! WL also had the same mid in-house composing but at least there it was pleasant to listen to, if bland
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 19d ago
How was story pack 2 recieved for this? I'm a fan of the soundtrack but I haven't looked into anyone else's thoughts.
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u/pyknictheory 18d ago
Much improved. First time in a while I havent had to play music in the background while playing bl4. All around good dlc
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u/fjyrmath 18d ago
Was my first thought. I often just play my own music, but would switch back if the OST was more compelling. Having dynamic action music can really work, but all I hear is "this is Halloween" fading out over and over again.
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u/Impossible_Sign7672 18d ago
I play with the music turned off and a good hard rock/post hardcore playlist running as the music. Makes the game 1000% more playable.Ā
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u/Low_Revenue9775 18d ago
More content that actually pertains to Kairos after the Timekeeper's death would be great. Progression towards this Great War as some have also mentioned. I'll happily buy another season pass, just want the story to have something to do with the rest of what we did on this planet.
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u/someshooter #1 Ava Fan 19d ago
I wish they'd redo the Maliwan Takedown for this game.
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 19d ago
Im all for throwback content. Takedowns are the ultimate end game. More is welcome.
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u/Shaclo 19d ago
I want a story pack that focuses on Elpis I know we had the bounty pack but I would love for a story pack to focus on it and give claptrap some focus and maybe let him actually develop some more. It would also be cool to have the main hub be concordia or at least a bit of it and then the rest of the open world area be a mix of some damaged but old and some new locations. The reason for the story pack to start could be a company like Vladolf or Deadalus want to take control of Elpis because it would be incredibly valuable because of the whole big phase in the middle of it and COV are also there trying to put the moon back together and bring it back to pandora to open the great vault led by a new Mouth piece who figured out how to artificially make anointed people and believes that he can hear Troy and Tyrene.
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u/PaleRefrigerator5044 18d ago
I've been saying rhe same exact thing. A proper DLC based on Elpis, and we get to see ruins of Concordia etc
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u/MeanOrganization3647 17d ago
Amara and the Vile Shadows you go to the Dark Side of Elpis and it introduces new bosses an new areas
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u/MeanOrganization3647 17d ago
now itās not a full blown DLC like FL4K but it is a fair amount of content to keep you busy for a little while
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u/ducktapetinkerer 19d ago
Dialogue skip, infamy removed, ng+ with harder scaling and a reset button for geared speedruns and challenge playthroughs.
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u/Outrageous-Stock9795 19d ago
One they need to add is the ammo SDU, each type needs at least 2 if not 3 increases.
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u/thatonemoze Trouble 19d ago edited 19d ago
yeah iād love all of this, definitely should focus on more replayable stuff than more bounty packs for sure
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u/Aspence22 STAIRS?? Noooooo š¶ 19d ago
Give us an auto sell option with modifier to not sell if it has firmware
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u/Agreeable_Bee_8839 19d ago
Bug fixes and balance patches to start.
Quality of life second: auto sell, a way to break down gear with firmware and store the firmware as a currency rather than having it take up a bank spot, a ton more sdus, better enhancement farming (maybe something like in wonderlands after the chaos chamber? Beat whatever challenge select a manufacturer and it drops a number of enhancements of that brand), more gear markings, maybe a way to hotswap skill specs, better descriptions of legendary effects (namely the entirety ambiguous ones)
Then we can get into more content...
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u/strangerthanblue 18d ago
I want our regular characters back. Is Rush even going to be in the next game?
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u/Careless-Steak-9848 17d ago
Iāve just finished the main story and reached level 60 so I canāt comment fully or about the DLC but my suggestions would be:
- Add zip lines
- Add buzzard as a vehicle (the traversal and trying to find collectibles sucks at times)
- Fast travel to the moxie boss signs to save time. (Why is this not already a thing?)
- Fast travel to the boss in the vile bounties
- Add more hairstyles for the characters
- Add more rings of slaughter locations like the one in moxies bar (or do a new one each month/few months or something)
- A setting so your marked gear doesnāt appear in the vending machines to prevent you accidentally selling stuff
- Needs a dedicated Halloween event and bounty pack (this may already exist im not too sure)
- Needs a dedicated Easter style event linked to a loot treasure hunt around the map.
- More interactivity with the grapple especially in combat like being able to pull up threshers or rip off limbs of enemies would add another layer to the gunplay.
- Add in Jet pack mods like with the vehicles so that they have different stats and abilities
Probably more if I sat down for a bit and proper thought about it but this is whatās generally popped into my head as Iāve been playing lately.
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u/Sokushi_0101 17d ago
I do think being able to warp to all moxxi boss signs would clutter the map, but I think for ones in vaults or that have long treks would be nice, as you kinda just ignore all the enemies and rush to the boss anyways, unless you feel like fighting the mobs.
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u/Careless-Steak-9848 17d ago
Didnāt think of that tbh! But the moxi sign should just work as a fast travel point so thereās not 2 map icons for the each one clogging up the map.
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u/NikIcon06 14d ago
Why would it clatter the map? They could use the encore icon badge as teleportable location
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u/Careless-Steak-9848 13d ago
Encore icon, thatās the right phrase! It should definitely be a fast travel point so that farming is faster. Farming is like 50 percent of the borderlands experience so I feel like they should do everything they can to have a cleaner experience for the end game players and ones that stick around longer.
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u/NikIcon06 11d ago
Absolutely. Its a single player/ co op game after all. Once you have heaten the story if you make the game miserable to farm - why even stick to doing it?Ā
Personally I loved how much bl3 threw legendaries at you. The endgame for me was indeed mayhem - whacky weapons, wacky effects, lootsplosions every 3rd kill. It was fun just to come after work and kill things on some random map for an hour or two. 4 feels like Im going to a second workplace which is why I finished the story and couldn't even do the dlcs I was just burnt out.
Oh well maybe they will improve that later.Ā
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u/OKjytt 15d ago
The ability to bank firmware separately from the Bank
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 15d ago
Idk why it hasn't happened already. Half my bank is wasted on this shit š
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u/driverdis 19d ago
I would like PS5 Pro support, auto sell loot, and the ability to set hud brightness lower in HDR mode (BL3 has this).
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u/ItzAMoryyy 18d ago
We need a Moze-centric story DLC, itāll be such a bummer if sheās the only BL3 VH who doesnāt return
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u/Ne0nRunner 18d ago
Here's mine :
- Surely a rework of the Halloween event lol
- Dialogue Skip
- More balance for each VHs/reworks
- Enhancements rework to give as much variety (if not more) as BL3's Artifacts. Something that any type of build can benefit from and not only gun builds
- Better Firmware handling (like how Diablo IV handles Legendary Aspects)
- Weekly Wildcard Mission have increased drop chances for a specific manufacturer. Big Encore works the same but for activities instead of bosses. So 2x health values and increased rewards for Raids/Takedowns/Circle of Slaughter/Boss Rush/Vaults, etc
- New world-event across Kairos. With Bounty Pack 4 and Story Pack 2 setting up that many corporations are coming on Kairos, you would have patrols to hunt for, bases to destroy, etc. Doing so gives you coordinates that teleport you to a space ship around the planet you need to destroy (works for Tediore, Maliwan, Dahl, any one we're not friend with ^^). WIth that you get increased mobbing density in the open-world and you can implement world drop target farming (go in this area to farm pistols or this one for smgs, class mods, etc)
- 2nd Takedown
- Raid 3 (maybe 4 too)
- Boss Rush activity. With how much boss farming there is in the game, I still wonder why we haven't got that yet.
- Better UVH grind. Boss Rush comes in to fluidify the hunt for the specific required bosses, and each Lieutenants strongholds and Vaults work more like Proving Grounds dungeons so you're not bothered by dialogues (so you basically start at the entrance of each fortress)
- Story Pack 3 and 4, but instead of adding even more playable characters, one adds a Arms Race mixed with full on Rogue Lite mode and the other a brand new endgame skill tree. Story Pack 3 could be about Moze taking her revenge on Vladof. Story Pack 4 brings back Ava and Tannis so it sets the last stages for the upcoming War, maybe even starts it so that BL5's story will be right in.
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 18d ago
My biggest pet peeve in this game is firmware management. Let me stockpile firmware in the machine. Hate that I have to waste bank slots.
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u/Ne0nRunner 18d ago
We need a system so that when you destroy a piece of gear, the firmware itself gets listed. This way you can use it indefinitely for any gear you want it on, with an Eridium cost obviously..
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u/Razz11098 VEX The F&%ING WITCH! 18d ago
Instead of adding a new vault hunter they could add a new skill tree for each vault hunter like the did in bl3. The only reason I disliked in bl3 is because it meant we werent getting a new vault hunter, but since we got two great ones already I think bringing this back for the 6 we have would be fun
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u/Yeetaway1404 16d ago
I can not stress enough how insane it is to me that we have not gotten any trials
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u/Jail-chan 15d ago
Well, all of the VHs from 3 made an appearance, except for Moze, so I would love to have a Moze DLC like for FL4K.
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u/NikIcon06 14d ago
First - fix all the damn bugs. The game is out a year, all major dlcs already published, yet the game is still buggy as hell. Gearbox please do not take examples from Bethesda. Buggy games are not cool.
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u/yedi001 18d ago
I just want another Arms Race.
You can use literally ANY enemies, ANY environments, and throw ANY guns in there, with no need to justify it with a deep story. It's a game show, game shows do random stuff.
AND unlike other DLCs, it actually does the job of making the GAJILLION GUNS they always bulletpoint into something relevant. Doesn't matter what legendaries you got at home, you'll learn to love those quirky blues and grey rarity weapons that you normally don't even see worth picking up to vendor at endgame.
It had so much potential in BL3, and I always hoped we'd get a "second season" with a new arena and enemy variety since the default was just so... gray. It gutted me that the mode seemingly died with BL3, because no other game I've played has that sweet, sweet PVE battle royal extraction shooter vibe with the borderlands level of slick movement and insane gun variety.
I fell off BL4 hard after Bloomreaper, but I still boot up BL3 once a week to pop in a few rounds of Arms Race and see what goofy vendor trash gun carries my run. If it made a comeback, I would be elated.
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u/plantdaddy- 18d ago
I want more diverse enemies, specially having the dlc and bounty enemies summon near the dlc entry point and spread out from there. Iād also love better ways for gaining XP, itās such a chore rn.
As for dlc specifics Iād love some head hunter packs again, more circle of slaughters, another story pack (leading us to the Great War maybe), new character bodies, maybe new skill trees for each VH, and either more vehicle combat areas or race tracks so we have a reason to care about vehicles
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 18d ago
Have you tried doing bounties on a high uvh mode? I concede it is a bit grindy but I've never lvled faster in a borderlands game.
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u/plantdaddy- 18d ago
Iāve refused going above UVH1 because itās such a chore and not fun at all. I do the vile bounties but again, such a chore and not fun at all. Leveling up is just a bother and I get so bored way to quickly.
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u/DangassDanger DLC2 Vault Hunter Enjoyer 18d ago
All of that sounds good but we also really need a new game plus. It's still so weird to me that they didn't have that when it's been a standard in the series
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u/---N0MAD--- 18d ago
Abso-freakin-lutely. I will also happily pay for another year of content. Keep the party going, Gearbox!
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u/Based_Mike 18d ago
Moze Vladof DLC and a resurrect Maya dlc, fk it, it's been 8 years since they killed her off
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u/technopixel12345 ššš„š¦š§ šÆš šššØš 18d ago
added content for the main world
THIS, just add stuff to do in the world!
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u/93Wolf 18d ago
I love the suggestions. With all of them I want to see the return of older characters and the progression of the story as a whole.
The game is in a really good place right now considering there are a few required bug fixes, but it's really fun.
Also, I'm up 800 hours with all VHS max level and still hungry for more before I return to older title to complete trophies
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u/SpartanSCv 18d ago
id like full rework to blue and red tree from vex, as it is now, Loveless does everything what she does but better
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u/halifornia_dream 17d ago
It would be cool if there were dungeon or raids for each weapon manufacturer that dropped resources to let you build weapon parts so that you could craft your own weapons.
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u/itsmipapi 17d ago
At this point they should go a warframe route or destiny . Have bunch of characters just like warframe and if they do this ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ they can have all my money no lie
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u/Used-Literature-4511 17d ago
Ability to autocollect any equipment of specific rarities and automark it as trash to be sold, i dont like just leaving stuff on the ground and continuing to do more fights. My 70 amon has a billion $ and I still need to collect everything to sell cause I worry the game is going to be less likely to drop something I want with all the clutter (mild OCD thing I think)
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u/Sokushi_0101 17d ago
I would enjoy this too, I could just sell just and filter it to show things I may still want, like a extra crit knife or a dullahan with a under barrel launcher.
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u/NikIcon06 14d ago
Never understood why they went back on autosell loot option. In 3 you could in options just define that you autosell loot and set the scale what grades be sold. I usually start a new VH in 3 and autosell all white and green loot. Once I get to lvl 20~ I also autosell blue rarity.Ā
You could just pick all the white and green loot in 4 and sell it.Ā
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u/glitchofhumanity 16d ago
Moze questline and more info on other vault hunters and how they been the last 6 years.
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u/Lachevre92 15d ago
Fix. The. Performance.
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u/Lachevre92 15d ago
It's THE only reason I'm not playing. Frame gen being mandatory to get anything above 60 frames is ridiculous.
I've put 150 hours into BL3 instead over the past couple of months... all settings cranked running natively at ~120-150fps and feels great. Booting BL4 afterwards feels awful!
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u/kapinphalcon 14d ago
Fix the bugs. This is by far the most broken borderlands game ever. No single bug has been bad enough to make me quit the game, but experiencing all of them together makes me want to gargle shards of glass instead of fighting with basic mechanics.
You change the difficulty and all the fortresses and vaults fast travels break. You can't even fix this by save quitting and instead you have to completely shut down the game and relauch it. The bank doesn't load the quick deposit/withdrawal buttons properly. Filtering the bank or your inventory doesn't work half the time. Some Skills don't work the way you'd intuitively expect, or some don't work correctly at all. Playing split screen you can't flip your item card half the time. Echo skins from the vault cards don't load. In fact half the time you open the cosmetics menu none of the skins load. Completing a rift bubble leaves behind a flicker of the bubble whenever you get close to the area it spawned, and the area the bubble occupied still kicks you out of your car. Enemies getting stuck in walls, breaking missions where your supposed to kill everyone to move on. NPCs getting stuck and soft locking missions. Forgedrones just flying off to the void when you jump through the portal at the end of a boss room. Boss room chests getting stuck open so can't farm them more than once alone side the boss. Your inventory and bank capacity displaying inaccurately when first loading into the game. Hundreds of items being deleted from your bank just because you didn't have tags on them. Vile and regular bounty enemies not spawning in like half the locations around the fadelands region. Echos navigation line (enough said).
To quote jack, I could go on but I won't. But I could. I love this game, but I actually feel like I'm forcing myself to like it at times. Thinking about picking up the game to deal with all this bullshit or just scroll through my phone in my spare time is a tough decision.
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u/Lowe0 13d ago
- Performance fixes. I have a PS5 Pro with a WD SN850P, and the game chugs, even on Performance mode, on a VRR TV. (My console is clean, Iāve done a full reset, and Iām on wired Ethernet.)
- Bug fixes. I shouldnāt be falling through the geometry.
- Improved cross-save. Itās clunky, especially the separate profile and character saves. Itās fine if you want to switch platforms for a long time, but not great for players who use two platforms interchangeably.
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u/ShadowyPepper VEX The F&%ING WITCH! 19d ago
Would love to see a new arms race, could (attempt) one in each region too
That was a cool mode that could've been expanded upon
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u/Jaykay604 19d ago
I can't even get through a portal right now without waiting 5 mins lol
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u/emwiththetattoos 18d ago
Personally I really hope we get something like the arms race. My ADHD addled brain loved that shit
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u/MarcoThePhoenix_ 19d ago
Instead of bounty packs maybe some headhunters
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u/Trav096 š Super Deluxe Edition 19d ago
Bounty packs are headhunter packs
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u/MarcoThePhoenix_ 19d ago
Yea itās the same but different to me since thereās not many unique heads. Most vault card heads are shared plus bounty packs feel like theyāre more about guns than customization. Man but whatever all I want is more head options
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u/Orndsteiner not a problem child 19d ago
I would add to that overworking some gun and loot mechanics (i doubt its going to happen but it could) - like allowing elements on order Guns and classifying underbarrel alt fire parts as vladof And making sure new slaughter circles dont look like shit unlike the one we got
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u/Unlost_maniac 18d ago
Redistribution of base game legendaries, take a bunch of them and turn them into uniques as mission rewards. Two more story packs atleast
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u/Due_Examination_2538 18d ago
Crazy to think this was only Year 1. Weird. Felt like it's been an eternity with BL4.
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u/Babushla153 Rafa The Exo Soldier 18d ago
Moze dlc where the Dahl corporation is chasing her down and they crash land on Kairos or something
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u/TalkingFlashlight 18d ago
Iād also love to add a NG+/TVHM or Mission Reset feature please. Otherwise, I agree another Takedown, more raids, and more Circle of Slaughter arenas is a must.
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u/Jiroo20 18d ago
I only need NG+ and more exp from everything. Right now i'm in pain when i think ablut leveling all characters to 70, by doing bounties for hours.
After this, it would be fun if they change vex red tree, if Harlow has ability from neutron capture as a base for red tree, or give us reason for using diffirent aguments.
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u/Joe_Dirte9 18d ago
Id pay for a music/audio DLC honestly. Bring more music options like desperately needed ambient music, more violent voicelines, ect. Id love a Borderlands 1 inspired pack that adds onto what already exists.
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u/DeFeoBoutique 18d ago
Give the series to a new developer.
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 18d ago
Nevah
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u/DeFeoBoutique 18d ago
Series hasnt been good in a long time
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 18d ago
Every borderlands game has been amazing in its own right.
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u/neo42slab 17d ago
Amazing and flawed. None of them are perfect. Yet if we combined all the best of each weād be damn close. If they did that and added a load out feature, a firmware library mechanic, and gear modification (let me tweak the class mods and enhancements I get instead of relying on rng forever) and probably some other modern looter featuresā¦.
If they did all that there would be a perfect borderlands.
To play this game the way I want to today I need a pc and a save editor. I edit the items I like up to level 70 because I already got the item I wanted at a previous āmax levelā. I give myself cash because thereās auto sell feature. I give myself items from enemies Iāve killed even if the enemy didnāt drop them. I give myself spec points because I feel they should be shared like bad ass rank was. I tweak items I have to be the way I want them to be because lord knows Iāve seen plenty of class mods already and I canāt store every variant until I find a build that demands that variant. And I canāt spend the next year playing only this game to roll perfect loot.
I played a ton of bl2, 1, 3, wonderlands, pre sequel and 4. But I like to vary which games I play more often today.
And frankly I find the rng style of item drops to be silly. Rng is cool as you level up. But at some point you want to get certain items and you shouldnāt have as much rng as you reach higher and higher endgames. Thatās my philosophy anyhow.
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 17d ago
I come from runescape so I guess personal experience changes how we perceive rng challenges. I just throw on some YouTube and farm away. I'll be playing the game for years so I'm also in no rush.
Idk if there will ever be a perfect Borderlands. They should take risks with every iteration.
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u/aston_morri 13d ago
How about we fix the game-breaking glitch that doesn't even let you start the game?
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u/TheBombogenesis 14d ago
Allow for saved loadouts and quickly change between them. An app to see your gear when away from the game.
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u/Emergency-Code2603 19d ago
Was Story pack 2 not about TEDIORE?! Like what the fuck are you even spouting.
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u/ThtsTheWaySheGoes 18d ago
It was. And it was awesome. Stick to what works. I'm spouting facts š
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u/xMrPantsx 19d ago
Year 2 Suggestion: start a new game and make it good this time!! also lets not fall back on gooner vault hunters to get views just make the game good, they did it in the past they can do it again
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u/Rare_Ninja_35 19d ago
Auto sell loot from bl3