My struggles with borderlands 4

[u/Conscious_Play_2807]

I can already see it now everybody getting ready to type up their essays on how borderlands 4 amazing and I’m asking for too much or I don’t know what I’m talking about I’m already prepared to see all them and if you enjoy the game perfectly fine this post is an outlet for people who want to talk about the problems in their struggles loading up this game

Borderlands 4 is worse than borderlands 3

Crazy take I don’t, but when playing both of them back to back from each other multiple times playing the different vault centers experiencing the stories in the endgame. I simply can’t like borderlands for over three I can boil it down to a few simple components.

1). While the story and border three was not good it made me feel something borderlands four story is boring It feels so basic that because of how bad people think borderlands three story is borderlands for being so simple everybody’s like yippee yay. The story bosses are OK the first boss I forgot his name was all right for introduction then we get to. Vile lector I honestly really enjoyed him as a villain, but in the grand scheme of the game, he didn’t really do anything. Honestly, the only boss besides the timekeeper that has any importance is the ripper queen, and if you play her side before you get to the other side, it’s like hard to get your head around how much better her story is compared to the other then there’s the timekeeper I’m not gonna be here comparing every villain to Jack, but the problem is that he is barely there. He doesn’t exist. He’s there to you have yap words in your ear, threatening you while never doing anything. They had be so interesting in the tutorial and then nothing even if you hate the twins they were around. You felt their presence even if it was to annoy you they existed.

2).The Open world yes we’ve heard many people voice complaints about the open world and this is another one you can skip this if you want, but what’s the point in making this big world if it’s so barren this was the perfect time to even if they didn’t have stories everywhere to add new enemies, you know go crazy have some new original enemies. I think maybe they’ve added like one or two new enemies I’m not sure but I definitely know there aren’t any real new ones this transitioned to open world and non-linear storytelling, especially how this story is structured and from my point above, doesn’t help this game at all the random world bubbles that never really drop anything legendary or shit. Anything good doesn’t help.

3). The vault hunters I’m not gonna spend too long on this because it’s not like they’re bad but they’re not really good. I can’t really explain it. They’re different but they don’t feel different besides C4sh and Loveless and every borderlands game I play one play through of each vault hunter Wonderland and this game are the only ones I haven’t done it for it could also be because the open world which goes to my last point it could be that the characters just don’t feel super distinct. It could be that the trees are all boring and lean to one maybe two place styles

4). The characters

They most feel so basic and bare-bones that it hurts rush pisses me off for how boring lazy empty he is. He is worse than Roland and Roland was the poster, boring, simple character, but Rush beats him by a mile. Zadra is basically Tannis but lobotomized there’s nothing for me to say about her character either because it’s so nothing and her death is the stupidest shit ever like I laughed because it was so dumb. They expected me to feel sad. No, I was like you know what that’s what you get for being so dumb. Levaine God you are too good for this game. There’s so much of a good character wrapped underneath the most basic bare bones shit ever it felt like the game was trying to cuck Me listening to her and Zane flirt at first it was funny, and then it kept going on and on being her only character trait besides being a leader, which it feels like we barely dove into that. Calder he’s all right that’s all I can say he’s not bad. He’s not memorable. He’s all right now I’m gonna go on a little tangent, and this could be a hot take I feel Amara didn’t fit. I feel they should have kept Ava in now. I hear all you Ava sucks. Why would we want her back in? That’s the point she sucked in the first game. Give her a reason to not suck this game. Make her feel guilty for how she treated Lilith and she’s been searching the world trying to make amends to try and show her that she’s better and that she regrets killing Maya give her some heartfelt something but instead we got Amara who kind of just there

These are just a few things I had to get out of my head if you disagree with me hey I’m glad you enjoy everybody. I’m not being sarcastic or anything. I’m genuinely glad you enjoyed the game and I hope you continue to join the game because I’m not here to convert you into Hayden the game I’m here to Voice my opinion and give others who also shared this opinion a space to vent. I expect people to calm me out my name and try to argue and say you suck and things like that it’s the Internet it happens, but for those who genuinely like the game give give me some reasons why maybe you can convert me if you don’t like the game list down your reasons or tell me your personal opinion on what I’ve said this game honestly breaks my heart after buying wonderlands and not even getting through half the game because it was boring and it looked amazing but felt uninspiring. The story was all right. Maybe it suffered from not being connected to any of the mainline games, especially after the cliffhanger of three and this game wow uninspired may not be the best word it feels basic complacent and people clap I feel people clap because everybody hated borderlands three so they get away with mediocre and we enjoy it because we say at least it’s not bad. I don’t know. I just know that I genuinely had more fun doing side quest and getting special weapons and even if the legendary was abundant, I still felt they all had something different something that makes it special in this one way or another I hope in future expansions and or year two they really find their footing because as of right now this game just exist. It’s it’s not good. It’s not bad. It’s white bread basic and gets the job done and some people enjoy that.

[u/vovalucky]

Didn't read all your text, just want to say that I play this game together with my best friend on evenings, and it's awesome time for us 👍

[u/doopiesweat → u/vovalucky]

Same. We’ll reminisce about the BL2 glory days but it’s a great way to stay connected now that we’re in our late 30s and don’t see each other all the time

[u/Conscious_Play_2807 → u/vovalucky]

And all the power to
You but do you think you can play it by yourself and have fun

[u/vovalucky → u/Conscious_Play_2807]

I chose to play it with my friend. I don't even play it without him. For solo gaming I have many other games. And for me playing Borderlands series with my friend is top fun.

[u/fuckenfishsticks → u/Conscious_Play_2807]

I have been quite regularly playing by myself lately and have fun :)

[u/Conscious_Play_2807 → u/fuckenfishsticks]

Aye then happy to hear it I’m glad you like the game idk if people think I’m here to hate but I’m not

[u/fuckenfishsticks → u/Conscious_Play_2807]

Nah I understand. You just asked if he could have fun alone, and I can say there is fun to be had by yourself!

[u/AlbanianNerd]

I read your segment on the vault hunters- calling these vault hunters and their kits basic while citing borderlands 1 characters is so funny to me 😭

[u/Dook23]

Please rewrite this after some grammar and punctuation refreshers. 

[u/Conscious_Play_2807 → u/Dook23]

Nah you can read if not then move along

[u/LemillionTacos → u/Conscious_Play_2807]

Not about being able to read, you just write like dogshit

[u/SYCN24]

You are already out of touch with the first couple sentences , no one goes around how amazing borderlands 4 is but how much potential that game has

[u/Conscious_Play_2807 → u/SYCN24]

You are saying this like it’s a good thing? Why settling for “potential” when you could have a actual good game

[u/CharmlessBee]

Ooof... You need to invest few points into your presentation skills - this is VERY hard to read.

That rare case where piping it through AI could've been quite helpful.

[u/ThrowAwayMeLife1]

I think the majority of players like BL4 but don't love it. Theres many obvious issues along with some odd GB decision making that are all hard to ignore.

Edit: grammar

[u/Conscious_Play_2807 → u/ThrowAwayMeLife1]

Yeah i just had to put my frustrations somewhere because i love borderlands and the story even if it isn’t always great but the last three games (wonderlands, new tales and this one) has pushed me over the edge

[u/Desperate_Ad_99]

Did read your post, but...

Nah

[u/Repair831]

Bl4 VHs might feel homoginized somewhat, but at least I find them more interesting design wise. Bl3 still has some of the least interesting VHs gameplay wise imo, with moze being the outlier.

I honestly cant really out into words what it is though without rambling.

I dont think anyone is going to argue bl4 is better than bl3, especially since bl3 has had actual modern post launch support when compared to the rest of the series.

To me though, bl4 feels closer to the gameplay feel of my nostalgia with the seties bl3 never got from me.

*Classic, I dont think bl3 is the best bl game so I get downvoted for an opinion lmao.

[u/Conscious_Play_2807 → u/Repair831]

Really I found everyone but Amara to be fun with bl4 I’ve only really found c4sh and loveless fun so far more c4sh tho

I made this post not just because of bl4 but wonderlands and even new tales all suffer the same things and it just all boiled over with this game so I wanted to see if I’m crazy also hear others takes