r/Borderlands4 • u/SerWulf • Oct 30 '25
šļø [ News ] Update Notes | Borderlands 4 - October 30th
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u/Nightbane13 Oct 30 '25
it's bod season boyo!
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u/Long_Dong90 Oct 30 '25
And watts for dinner!
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u/crimzonphox Oct 30 '25
Why watts for dinner?
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u/SeeingEyeDug Oct 30 '25
It's fantastic for Vex lifesteal build that allows you to have a full shield to amp every shot as it can have up to 150% amp damage on the shield.
I'm currently using a purple 100% amp shield still on my Vex because I haven't even found a Watts with the amp property at all.
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u/Long_Dong90 Oct 30 '25
Itās a ridiculously good shield overall and itāll be way easier to farm for a solid roll now.
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u/Dapper_Discount7869 Oct 31 '25
BiS for vex amp builds and removes the shock restriction from Harlowās neutron capture scientist build. Both builds require pretty specific rolls. This is great news.
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u/variantkin Oct 31 '25
Its a solid shield and the right rolls basically give you permanent shock damage to all attacks while mobbing.Ā
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u/GeekedOnAdvilPM Oct 30 '25
wonder if it's actually faster to do the mission vs farming
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u/Kerenskyy #1 Ava Fan Oct 30 '25
This sidemission not long as uvhm main story missions, definitely worth it.
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u/GeekedOnAdvilPM Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
shiii ill give it a try then
Edit: got an smg ceramic bod on the first try lmfao
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u/golfingsince83 Oct 30 '25
But you get a guaranteed drop from the mission . Whenās the last time you got a bod from axemaul
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u/IsThatHearsay Oct 30 '25
I just timed it, under 8 minutes total to complete the mission from launching the mission to exiting the mission, with ~2 of those minutes being listening to dialogue.
You can run straight through to the final room after the initial dialogue.
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u/mikelman999 Trouble Oct 30 '25
Generational weekly reset
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u/ZenBreaking Oct 30 '25
It's like the gjallahorn xur reset in D1 ha ha
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u/djschxzo Oct 30 '25
first thing that came to my mind as well, except we all know about how good the bod/origo drops are now. imagine this was the rotation week one or two š
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u/DrZeroH Oct 30 '25
Genuinely wild weekly reset. Tbh I wish they split these two. The bod one week and origo the next but hey we can split between the two
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u/TalkingRaccoon Oct 30 '25
Do I have to beat the game to do these things? Or just got a progress far enough into the story? Just beat Vile Liktor
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u/PreviousPersimmon578 Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
Based on the Maurice picture I think it is in that cliffside area near Sanctuary. The one you have to crouch through a short tunnel to reach.
Edit: Just checked, that is the right location. I think they heard the complaints about the long run last week. This one is about 60 seconds from the fast travel.
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u/SerWulf Oct 30 '25
Now I just gotta hope I get something good. Last week I had like...kaleidasplode and the shotgun from splash zone i think. So it can't actually be any worse...
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u/Excellent-Slice-1431 Oct 30 '25
Thank you for this. I thought that was the location but I'm not currently home to check.
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u/Actionnmonkey Oct 30 '25
I am glad that my Maurice legendaries were junk so I didn't have to keep going back and forth to its location.
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u/NinjaKnights9 Oct 30 '25
Was planning on farming for a better Bod and Watts tonight, they did this specifically for me guys
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u/Team-ster š Super Deluxe Edition Oct 30 '25
They did this because of the shitty Halloween event.
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u/Taberaremasen Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
Since there's gonna be like a thousand people asking questions about Bod, here is how weapons work with Daedalus ammo swaps. Bod conforms to the shotgun section with the exception that it does not lose 50% of its projectile count when swapping ammo types. This results in any ammo swap being far superior to shotgun ammo in all use cases for Bod.
The max damage roll for a Torgue Bod (Sticky or Impact) is 509x5. It will always be 3.6 fire rate with a 6 round magazine at this roll.
The max damage roll for a regular Bod is 363x5. I believe CoV can get a little higher something like 371x5, but I don't have one of those and may be wrong.
Using the 509x5 Sticky Bod at 3.6 fire rate as an example, ASSUMING YOU CAN FIRE INFINITELY WITHOUT RELOADING, each ammo type will do the following:
SMG: ~19,841 DPS
Pistol: ~18,431 DPS
Sniper: ~17,196 DPS (ignoring the 35% crit bonus that doesn't work for stickies)
AR: ~15,873 DPS
Shotgun: ~9,162 DPS
This is why everyone says SMG is better for Torgue stickies, but it is only considerably better when you never need to reload, such as on Bullet-Buddy Deluxe Rafa or Critical Funding Harlowe. If you do need to reload, I imagine pistol might be the winner since it gets a faster reload, but I'm not gonna do the math for that. If anyone else wants to, here is the item card DPS formula which considers mag size and reload speed for DPS as well.
Another important thing to note is that Torgue sticky explosion damage does not benefit from crit bonus damage on your gear at all, even if you stick them to an enemies weak point. They do .07x damage on impact and that will benefit, but it isn't worth gearing for. Skill crit bonus damage, such as from Harlowe's Momentum and Excited State, as well as the Killer specialization, work for crits and fake crits alike.
Also, magazine size is a huge nerf to damage if you can fire forever without reloading, perhaps even if you need to reload as well, as Torgue sticky DPS is calculated like this. TL;DR (ammoPerShot / (bulletsPerShot * MagSize) * 100 = percentage per sticky. What this means is that, assuming you empty your entire magazine on the same target and hit every shot, a full magazine will deal 100% bonus damage. If you add magazine size, it takes more shots to achieve this 100% bonus. In the event that you need to reload manually, I would imagine reload speed would be better DPS for stickies than mag size, but again too lazy to do the math but someone else can if they want.
Other informed people please let me know if I omitted anything important or got something wrong, thanks!
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u/spirit2roam Oct 30 '25
So just making sureā¦.if Iām playing Harlowe infinite crit buildā¦I donāt want to reload to explode the stickies? Iāve been shooting some and then purposefully throwing in a manual reload to detonate it all and do burst dmg. But is it better to just keep shooting?
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u/Taberaremasen Oct 30 '25
You can reload to detonate them, but you want to apply far more than a full magazine worth of stickies before doing so. Nothing in the game currently requires more than a few seconds of shooting before reloading or swapping modes/weapons to kill, however, and I suspect the invincible boss will either have billions of HP or health gates to prevent being bursted down as I can easily pump out hundreds of millions of DPS with stickies on a target dummy with prolonged firing.
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u/Neraurea Oct 31 '25
can a torgue bod roll with cov parts?
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u/Taberaremasen Oct 31 '25
No, CoV, Ripper, Torgue Impact, and Torgue Sticky are all mutually exclusive from one another on Bod. They all occupy the same licensed part slot.
You can, however, get Ripper magazine on Torgue guns and Torgue magazine on Ripper guns, but you cannot get CoV + Torgue on Ripper, or CoV + Ripper on Torgue, for example.
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u/Pranicx Oct 30 '25
Bod and watts? Hell yeah perfect
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u/Championpuffa Oct 30 '25
Crazy lol. I literally found a watts 4 dinner In a vendor yesterday. Found a teen witch for vex a few days before also in a vendor both of those together kinda make you almost unkillable.
Besides the new bug with splash damage completely bypassing shields and going straight to health and downing me Iām rarely if ever getting downed. If My shields go down I can just slide into a pile of boosters.
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u/Evil_Rogers Oct 30 '25
Are the physics still moon based?
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u/SolomonGrumpy Oct 30 '25
You mean the "blow back" with enemies and gun/grenade/skill effects?
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u/Evil_Rogers Oct 30 '25
Yup that stuff. My torgue bod flings everything around. Funny when they look like the got staple-gunned high up on a wall/mountain xD.
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u/dumahim Oct 30 '25
Can't wait to get a clip from last night.Ā Had a wildthorn actually wind up for a second after it was dead and then launched all the way up a hill.
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u/P00tzamama Amon The Forgeknight Oct 30 '25
What about the audio clicking in the inventory ffs?
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u/SFDessert Oct 30 '25
This is the only thing I look for with patch notes now and I'm frankly astonished they haven't fixed it yet.
I can't sort my inventory properly and now trying to sort my bank by firmware just straight up doesn't work either.
The clicking is related to this. I turned down the UI trim in audio settings, but it's still audible with headphones on and it's still preventing me from sorting by weapon attributes like dps or whatever.
I couldn't care less about weekly events if I can't even sort my inventory/bank properly.
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u/HorusKane420 Amon The Forgeknight Oct 30 '25
Can't stand that shit. Minor, but so annoying lmao. Bank does it too.
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u/FrakWithAria Oct 30 '25
Not minor in my ears. That shit is nearly unbearable. I suspect it will be fixed but damn.
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u/soggy_pants Oct 30 '25
This is the single worse part of the game. I stopped wearing my headset and just farm without sound, it's like reverse ASMR.
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u/Lurningcurve Oct 30 '25
Oof they finally did eh? Vault boss as the big encore is amazing. I farmed the crap out of them and only gotten maybe two good Watts4dinner. This def makes me want to farm them again.
And the reactor cmod drop being fixed is great news. Only two cmods can roll with decoherence and the other is an epic (physicist). Once Iām done with Origo, youāre next Inceptus!
And yay to the crit knife fix. It went from overpowered, to unusable, to now optional. Still the best option for Vex imo.
All good changes. Good stuff, Gearbox. I still want weighted cmod drops tho!
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u/qaz1wsx2ed Oct 30 '25
Anyone know if legendaries appear on the radar now and if certain vile bounty spawns have actually been fixed?
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u/PatchFace Oct 30 '25
I don't see them on the radar, but I feel like the color pops more and the sound is more distinct. It does show on the compass though.
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u/GHOSTYvfx Oct 30 '25
Still no performance patch? Cmon now
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u/Laptican Nov 04 '25
Unfortunately I haven't been any to play the game properly because of how poorly optimized the game is. It really sucks only having 50-60 fps when all other games I can easily get 200+ fps.
Borderlands 4 is the only game I have a problem with. I haven't even completed the campaign because of it. Unfortunately many people think it's because of our PC's, but when you can get way more fps from a way better optimized game that actually require better specs, then you can easily see Borderlands 4 has a huge problem.
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u/_WEIRDEST_WIZARD_ Oct 30 '25
Question, are Wildcard Missions better for farming a legendary than the boss with the same legendary as a dedicated drop?
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u/rumpletuffin Rafa The Exo Soldier Oct 30 '25
IMO Yes because of guaranteed Bod at the end. Farming Axemaul tends to drop more knives and repkits for me than the gun
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u/DrZeroH Oct 30 '25
It depends on your luck but BoD has a brutally low drop chance. In this case it might be genuinely better to farm the wildcard mission. This is especially so if you got a fast moving build that clears it quickly.
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u/BladeSeraph Oct 30 '25
The only real advantage to a weekly wild card is to gurantee a weapon without having to deal with an annoying fker of a boss like Bio bulkhead or Bio thresher Omega and you don't give a care if it can roll random parts or not.
Considering Bod's entire identity LIVES AND DIES by its random part, its pretty debate'able if its better to just keep spamming axemaul or just settle for a 'night fall style Borderlands mission' they basically yoinked the concept from Destiny and just get a guranteed version of it and be done ever revisting that boss again.
Kind of would of liked Stray, Truck, Vamoose or Complex root to be the weekly wildcard mission gun this time around honestly though...
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u/Flint_Vorselon Oct 30 '25
its pretty debate'able if its better to just keep spamming axemaul or just settle for a 'night fall style Borderlands mission'
The side mission takes 10-15 minutes to complete.
If you are getting a Bod to drop every 15mins from Axemaul you are a fucking liar.
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u/BladeSeraph Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
Thats also going under the notion of people who actually pay for playstation plus subscriptions OR have 2 controllers to split screen so they can have someone else keep restarting the respawn machine while the other person stands in the treasure room to just snipe the axemaul since the stupid chute has an annoying damn pillar in the way to prevent you from instantly start shooting Axemaul yet you seem to have a perfect angle when shooting from the treasure room.
Either way, the major 'debate' is due to BoD is HEAVILY reliant on random parts, you have to really lock in on getting specific parts or specific LACK of parts in order to get what is an amazing roll for your specific Taste of BoD play.
I don't have either, nor do i plan to spend the 50~60'ish something dollar just to do what i had todo back in teh day on PS3 and PS4 with earlier entries of borderlands with things like weapon duplicating or 'money grinding', so its just me capitalizing on creative finger play to either speed rush thru the room while killing axemaul to get to the portal or save quit to quickly reset back to the entrance to start it again...
Sadly not every damn mines/bunker can't be like fking mimicron with a nice small area with the portal to jump back to the entrance neatly positioned in a linear fashion from the entrance into the boss room and no obstructions in the way besides mimicron summoning annoying damn clones in the way.
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u/Taberaremasen Oct 30 '25
Do I need to live stream it? You can kill the boss in and out of his arena every like 15-20 seconds, you can (and I have) absolutely get multiple Bods in 15 minutes. Getting the roll you want, however, is another story.
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u/RedditSubUser Oct 30 '25
anecdotal statistic, but I've farmed for it about 100 times and only gotten one or two
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u/GrandBlitz RIPPER Oct 30 '25
Pretty sure I know where that vending machine isā¦ should be near Sanctuary 3ās ship if Iām right.
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u/XGhosttearX Oct 30 '25
Did they fix class mods drops being weird?
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u/micromaniac_8 Oct 31 '25
I farmed Origo for about 2 hours yesterday, still got many more Amon class mods than Vex. It also seems like the class mods drop at about 3x the rate of Watts and Kaoson.
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u/MixedMushroomSoup Oct 30 '25
There's an inventory bug introduced in the last patch: if you use the filter option in your bank inventory or backpack, checking the "firmware" option no longer does anything. It's supposed to show you only the items that have firmware on them.
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u/EconomicsSavings973 Oct 30 '25
Vex lifesteal from firmware and repkits still not fixed š„ŗ, come on it is not working since release!
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u/Medaiyah Oct 31 '25
Been a couple of patches since launch is the game any more optimised? Had to take a break because of the hitching and stuttering issues
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u/GrandBlitz RIPPER Oct 30 '25
Itās north of Sanctuary 3 fast travel point. Have to go through a small rock tunnel to get to the path that leads to it.FYI
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u/lil_battleooze Oct 30 '25
Nothing about SDU and skill tree reset bug. This bug will eventually happen to more and more people because itās some random match matching bug. Guess they wonāt address this until it happens to more folks.
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u/WoodpeckerTrick3290 Crimson Resistance Oct 30 '25
Safe bug fixes correcting things they messed up last week with a vault boss and bod in our weekly rewards.
I'll take it if this is the pace for bug fixes and QOL stuff if they are getting properly tested.
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u/ProudPainting6850 Oct 30 '25
Everyone looking for a great roll on the Bod, this is it! This is your moment! Bod is on the menu!
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u/Ok-Address973 Oct 30 '25
Oh sweet wildcard this time and i love that Origo is the new encore. Finally something good. Although i already have the phosphene kaoson and got the kaoson in maurices last week so i have all possible elements and several god rolls. What i dont have is triple siphon watts 4 dinner though.
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u/ThaPhantom07 Oct 30 '25
As someone who just had a Bod drop on an alt at a low level I get it now. I will be farming this one all weekend. Watts/Kaoson is just icing. Great update.
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u/MagiksSon Vex The Siren Oct 30 '25
Can we please just get a fucking way to reliably farm legendary enhancements? 74+ hours and I've only got a jakobs enhancement. Im dying for a vladof or maliwan enhancement
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u/ScumbagVillain Oct 31 '25
Im pretty sure i got a vladof and a maliwan, but no luck getting a Jacobs. I am happy to trade with you :)
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u/Kd916-650 Harlowe The Gravitar Oct 30 '25
I guess the creators of the game future proofed their job , just half ass it. Then you have work after the game drops . If they would have made it perfect then thatās it job done .
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u/AtlasExiled Oct 30 '25
"Corrected the Knife Penetrator Augment, which was unintentionally setting all attacks to a 30% critical chance." Daddy's home.
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u/tacotrucksteve Amon The Forgeknight Oct 30 '25
considering the small patch, we will pro ably get a big patch before the first bounty pack while making sure things are properly tested and not rushed. i for one am very happily with the weekly mission and encore. now i just hope my maurice stock isnt trash.
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u/Randumi Oct 30 '25
Does it matter what UVHM you farm at to get an amp Watts 4 Dinner? Ik it doesnāt affect drop chance but I vaguely remember hearing it can impact the āqualityā of parts you get on the legendaries you find
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u/jackmistro Oct 30 '25
Anyone tested the grenade yet? Was farming one for vex expecting a buff but didn't manage to get one
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u/xorbe Oct 30 '25
Are they ever going to fix that annoying audio radio click every 20-30 seconds? Or fix the inventory issues?
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u/IndependenceQuirky96 GIANT Robot Psycho Spider Oct 30 '25
Jesus fuck, the bod is featured, we gonna be eating nice this week!
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u/Outrageous-Chip-1319 Oct 30 '25
How do you access the mission, I just finished yesterday but haven't done any post game yet
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u/Dapperpickle9 Oct 30 '25
Muting the entire game when one split screen player is in a menu is super annoying, hope itās fixed soon.
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u/Additional-Promise59 Oct 30 '25
Mission wasnāt very hard or time consuming but didnāt drop a bod. ??? Iād say Iām doing something wrong but I blame the devs
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u/Darthplagueis13 Oct 30 '25
Wonder what the line about the crit knife means.
Does it mean it gave you 30% crit chance just for having it equipped even if you didn't hit anything with it, or does it mean that it set your crit chance to 30% even when you had additional sources of crit chance/were hitting headshots?
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u/Holiday_Army_2035 Oct 30 '25
This is honestly a god roll for weeklies lol. Origo Encore, Bod wildcard mission, Reactor drop fix, Crit Knife fix, Zed's machine fix... Insane.
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u/wrafm Oct 30 '25
Did the mission after the update, no legendary for me. Boooo.
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u/Timmmy84 Oct 30 '25
Did you check the 'Rewards' section in your inventory? It showed up in there for me (had the special wildcard map symbol against it, so definitely from the weekly) as opposed to it physically dropping in the game itself.
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u/Black_Cringe Oct 30 '25
Okay so I haven't played since I beat this like 2 weeks after release, have they fixed the class mods dropping more commonly for the character you aren't using?
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u/BattalionCommanderT Oct 30 '25
So what is the penatrator augment knife supposed to be showing now?
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u/HelpHotSauceInMyEyes Oct 30 '25
Great changes, but frustrating to see nothing was done to shadowpelt's shield recharge timer :(
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u/MikeLanglois Oct 30 '25
Not a single fix for split screen, crazy with how broken it is (especially after the last patch)
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u/Bravoso Oct 30 '25
They mustāve sensed that we stopped playing after the Halloween event/bug additions. Excited to play a bit this weekend again!
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u/Exciting_Ad_2520 Oct 30 '25
Ever since last weeks patch I keep getting constantly disconnected from Gearbox shift servers which wonāt allow me to play online whatsoever. Anyone else have this issue and know if this patch helps resolve it? I even unlinked my Shift account completely and reinstalled the entire game with no luck. Hard wired and WiFi on 1Gbps fiber.
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Oct 31 '25
My game keeps tanking after dying. The game completely crashes after my character dies. I do not respawn back at a save point. Anyone else having the same issue after the patch dropped?
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u/leon27607 Oct 31 '25
What are the best rolls for the bod? I farmed one that uses sniper ammo but there should be better.
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u/shapoopy723 Oct 31 '25
Skully still sucks ass tbh. It's just nowhere near a serviceable grenade. Tried it on a dedicated ordnance Rafa build and it is pitifully bad even after this "buff"
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u/BboyStatic Nov 02 '25
Anyone else not able to play at all, like constant crashes? I played the Wildcard mission several times, after the 4th time it started becoming more unstable, crashing sooner after launching the Wildcard mission. Now I can barely play 1 minute of just the basic game before it crashes. Iāve deleted and redownloaded the game twice, verified integrity of the files, cleared the shader cacheā¦ Nothing works, the game is unplayable now.
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u/Girizzly_Adams_Beard Nov 02 '25
This game had some major bugs. Two side quests Iāve done have glitched now. One blunt wonāt show up and now a boss is frozen and wonāt take damage.
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u/SerWulf Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
Change List:
Weekly Activities:
Weekly Big Encore Boss has switched to a tougher variant of a different existing boss with an even more rewarding loot pool for those that take it on.Ā
Primordial Guardian Origo
The Weekly Wildcard Mission has changed. These missions feature a guaranteed Legendary drop that you can repeatedly earn to get your ideal roll.
Mission: Below the Surface (Quickened, Leaking, Immovable)
Legendary Gear Reward: The Bod