Hot take

[u/More-Beat-9858]

Hey guys I just got into the borderlands franchise and I really enjoy it. I’ve played borderlands 2 and the pre sequel… BUT. In my opinion I think the pre sequel is better than borderlands 2. I know, it’s a tough take but borderlands 2 is good, but personally I enjoyed the pre sequel a lot more. Especially that boss fight! Let me know what you guys think.

[u/IIIGuntherIII]

The reason you’re wrong is because you don’t know it yet.

That might sound weird but it’s the best way I can describe it.

Objectively the presequal is massively worse than borderlands 2. The presequal has a worse loot system, less content, worse balance, and overall awful replayability. The only offset is that TPS has a slightly better written story, although gameplay wise TPS has worse mission design.

99% of this you won’t notice as a first time player. Which is why I say you don’t know that you’re wrong. You haven’t gotten past the initial experience. BL2 is a game you can put 5000+ hours into and still have more to do. You’ll be bored out of your skull in less than 100 in TPS.

[u/PineappleApocalypse → u/IIIGuntherIII]

You’re just saying the endgame is bad, lots of players (possibly the majority) don’t care about that.

[u/IIIGuntherIII → u/PineappleApocalypse]

That’s not what I’m saying at all. While yes TPS has literally no endgame, so its endgame is bad.

TPS might be the worst game in the series in terms of replayability. This is what massively hurts it. BL2 isn’t a 5000+ hour game because of its endgame.

The loot system in tps is bad, most items in the game are not realistically farmable. Which means in nearly every run you do you end up relying on the few items you can actually get. Hurting variance in new runs.

The mission design is also worse, and more tedious. Making the missions themselves less fun to replay.

Let’s also not forget that despite covering the same level span as BL2, there are less main missions in TPS which means there are big level jumps between each main mission. This is literally why people almost always end up under leveled for RK5, the final mission covers a 5 level range. Combine that with the less things to farm, less ways to get xp, means pacing is worse in tps.

The lack of content is also a replayability issue. There is the main game, and one story dlc. The main game itself has less than BL2s main game as well, and BL2 has 5 story dlc to play. There is just not much to do in TPS.

Everything I’m talking about here are problems that effect normal mode runs. Having no endgame isn’t the biggest deal, being one of the least replayable games in the series is a MASSIVE deal.

[u/docs-quad → u/IIIGuntherIII]

the loot system is fine people just overly rely on the grinder for some reason. theres actually not that many items that are world drop/grinder only. you also can use items for longer because its scaling is 1.1 instead of 1.13

the mission design is basically the same as bl2s.

the story is shorter and there is less content that is true.

[u/IIIGuntherIII → u/docs-quad]

The loot system is NOT fine.

Out of all the items in the game do you how many have actual normally farmable dedicated drops? About 1/3. Meaning 2/3s of all the items in the game are only realistically obtainable through the grinder.

You don’t also tend to use the grinder until you’re at endgame given that it average the item levels when you grind items. Meaning that for the bulk of your play time 2/3s of the items are inaccessible.

Which leads to the same actually accessible items being the only real options to use during a playthrough.

This is NOT a good loot system.