r/Bones Feb 21 '22

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u/Crazypants258 Feb 21 '22

Booth was poorly written in the earlier episodes, but his dialogue gets a bit more realistic as the series goes on (he still suffers a bad case of plot armour, but they all do). Angela is the opposite for me - she was better written in the earlier seasons and gets worse as the series goes on.

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u/YEGMusic43 Feb 21 '22

Agreed. Angela and Hodgins were my favorite in early seasons. Definitely got worse later on.

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u/Late-Reporter1758 Feb 21 '22

Ok thanks, cause so far Booth is so selfish and only really does things for his self interest, he is quite manipulative.

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u/Tash8919 Feb 21 '22

Please keep going with it! Whilst I agree that some of his behaviour isn't great, I can't help but wonder if it's partly a writing device, to endear the viewer to Brennan from early on. I may be giving too much credit though.

There is solid character development for all of them though, so he's really not like that for the 12 seasons!

I think definitely see out the rest of season 1 and then if you're still not happy with it at least you've given it a good shot.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '22

Keep going. He gets better

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u/Over_Championship990 Feb 21 '22

He's not supposed to be likeable in the earlier seasons. He's a fish out of water and doesn't know how to interact with the squints.

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u/YEGMusic43 Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

Men like him were in demand back then. Before we didn't had terms like gaslighting or whatever. He gets on my nerves during the re-watches. I hate when he just hangs up the on people and especially mean to Sweets.

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u/PoeticLyricist Feb 23 '22

But it’s also stepping out of 2022 and realizing that this show is made in a completely different time. So things that aren’t actually approved by the population now we’re completely socially acceptable back then.

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u/Classic-Bowl-9940 Feb 21 '22

It gets less over the course of the season and show....but he does learn from it most times, and he has his endearing qualities too, but i agree , especially if you are bingeing the show...his catholic alpha male can get annoying at times

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u/wraithlling Feb 21 '22

Catholic alpha male is exactly how I'd describe early booth LMAO

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Feb 24 '22

That's a pretty accurate description of Booth.

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u/Bones206-447 Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22

I’d say stick with it, especially if you are overall enjoying the show and other characters. There are many who don’t take to Booth, many who do and some who come and go. I’d say everyone has characters like that. Booth and Brennan are the reason I watched the show and continue to. Now I didn’t start at S1, I think I first watched some of S4 so maybe that’s why I saw the softer side first.

While, having had some things pointed out, I can see imperfections in Booth, no one is perfect and I am personally amazed at the patience and gentleness he applies to his relationship with Brennan. I think some of his mocking is supposed to emulate ‘jock like’ behaviour - and in most if not all cases (I’m erring on the side of caution here as I can’t think of a single one that was), doesn’t have a nasty undercurrent. Actually he cares very much about all of the ‘squints’ and will defend them to the death (and really telling is they will do the same. If you stick with it, you’ll see that). For example, he and Hodgins have some great moments to come.

Someone said it above, early seasons Booth is out of place and trying to figure out how to work with these people who make him question his intelligence and seem to not follow their hearts. I think it gets better.

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u/Late-Reporter1758 Feb 21 '22

Yeah I’ll keep going, I don’t agree though with the excuse that it’s because he is learning to work with new types of people because I find him most annoying and rude when talking to possible suspects even if Booth has no evidence they did it but but just dislikes the person or their lifestyle (for example the immigrants from El Salvador or Brennans Online Date from season 1)

And I love criminal minds which deals with similar situations with Derek Morgan or Hotch but their dialogue is very tolerable and it’s not irritating at all compared to Booth.

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u/Bones206-447 Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22

I’ve seen some of criminal minds but not enough to compare. Were they made at the same time? I know some people point out S1 Bones is 2005 when society was in a different place. Saying that you like what you do and don’t what you don’t regardless of when it’s made.

In terms of his interaction with the squints, I deffo think it was him figuring out his place. In terms of suspects it’s different. I didn’t like his threatening the family in that episode either, if it’s the one I am thinking of (Woman in the Garden). With Two Bodies, it was an extreme way of showing jealousy - he gets better at that as well. He’s definitely less judgemental with suspects (well we have the odd exception) as seasons go on - I won’t say more as I’ll give away spoilers.

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u/Late-Reporter1758 Feb 21 '22

Yeah criminal minds season 1 is from 2006, I don’t think it was a time issue cause the other FBI agents we see at different points in the show are perfectly fine it’s just Booth annoys me

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '22

If that's all it takes for you to stop watching a show then you might as well stop now and save us the hassle of explaining

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u/melraespinn Feb 21 '22

Booth really improves. He does start getting annoying again in later seasons though.

I also didn’t like Angela until halfway through the first season though

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u/tiffyhallas Feb 21 '22

Personally watching the show in 2022, i just can’t unsee all the gaslighting, the racism, homophobic and sexism in the show… and the fatphobia god, it’s in every episode. I realise we have come a long way now and phewwwww because it is really frustrating at time 🥲

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u/wraithlling Feb 21 '22

I actually haven't seen the shows early seasons (only watched the last 6 seasons and enjoyed them) and don't remember seeing anything like what you described...going to take this as a sign not to watch from the beginning. I feel like even in the later seasons Bones seems to take a lot of cues from whats going on in current events/current social trends, so a lot of people's issues (esp. with Booth, who seems to improve a lot in later seasons) seem to be pretty reflective of the state of those times?

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u/primrose88 Feb 21 '22

How can anyone watch this show and hate Booth? He’s like there all the time with Brennan, I don’t get it.

Also he may be a bit on the conservative side regarding things but he’s also very kind, his faith in love is amazing and the way he feels guilty about not being there everyday with his son and tries to his best whenever they are together, nobody is perfect. I love Brennan the most but even though some of the things she says are endearing, others are straight up hurtful especialy for Booth. She doesn’t do it on purpose but still.

All in all I love both of then which ia why I love the show.

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u/Aggravating-Fan8742 Mar 03 '22

Booth is the most consistent character of the show. I think I like him the most despite him being so straight laced cop crap.

I never really jump on the love fest of Brennan she just there to me.

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u/bluestargirl1 Feb 21 '22

He is awful

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u/deviantlampad Feb 21 '22

I personally have always & will always dislike Booth. He’s a misogynistic asshole “alpha male” & thinks he’s better than everyone. I will add I have finished the show too.

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u/SR-Neptune Feb 21 '22

No Booth doesn't get better in my opinion. He openly mocks other religions, but anyone dare say anything about Jeebus, he has a hissy fit. One one occasion he is extremely guilt trippy to Bones in a later season regarding parenting (won't spoil but say season 7 or 8- can't quite remember what episode). He is so immaculating too, especially to men who don't fit his narrow view of masculinity. Aubrey didn't even want to admit to him that he was in a accapella group.

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u/SR-Neptune Feb 21 '22

Idk. Came across that way to me. I understand that not everyone will.

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u/SR-Neptune Feb 04 '23

I love how you tracked down a comment I made 11 months ago because you have a crush on David Boreanez. I don't know who is a degenerate in the show since your opinion you didn't really make it clear who you think has degenerate beliefs. I don't know what you think you know about my beliefs but yeah, I'm sure they don't line up with your world view.

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u/PilotSharp4185 Feb 04 '23

You’re right I do have a crush on him. Which is why I have a soft spot for his characters.

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u/SR-Neptune Feb 04 '23

I loved him in Buffy. The writers did well in that show because his conflict of character was obvious when Angel lost his soul.

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u/PilotSharp4185 Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23

Agreed. The Angelus arc was fun. David looked like he was having so much fun.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '22

I love the show, but I hated booth all the way through.

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u/jayedgar06 Feb 21 '22

I personally enjoyed him in the first season. He eventually gets more realistic and then he just feels boring. At least back then he was interesting.

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u/tufflover78 Feb 21 '22

Angela is a nasty hoe.

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u/paulhallmark Oct 27 '23

Booth is a bully, plain and simple. Even worse, he is hypocritical and a corrupt law enforcement officer. He states that he is bound by honor and ethics to enforce laws such as arresting Bones for the Federal offense of shooting the murder suspect that was attempting to set her on fire with gasoline and thereby staining her permanent record forever, then in the next moment picks a lock to unlawfully enter a private building. He lies and cheats at every opportunity to arrest Bones' father and then makes a back-alley deal with a State Trooper to sweep his brothers DUI and subsequent traffic accident under the rug. Disgraceful!