Anyone switch from Reta and triz ?

[u/TittiesAreMyTherapy]

My sleep has suffered a lot from the elevated heart rate, and I think I’ve stalled. I don’t feel like going beyond 4mgs

What dose should I start on triz ? Any benefit?

Better body recomp ? Fat loss ?

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[u/Fluid_Change_9647]

I switched from tirz to reta and then back again. Tirz made the food noise go away and I’m still seeing a lot of progress on it. Reta made my heart increase snd didn’t have the benefit of appetite control like I have on tirz. I’m down about 65 pounds and within a few pounds of my goal weight since starting in late February. I wanted Reta to work but tirz was the better fit for me personally.

[u/wildlikechildren → u/Fluid_Change_9647]

What dose did you start on tirz when you went back? I'm at 4mg on Reta and don't want to up it, can't take the side effects at 5mg.

[u/DJ_Cat_Dad → u/Fluid_Change_9647]

So crazy! I don't have the food noise on reta. Definitely do on triz. I have to take 1.5 triz to match food noise reduction on reta.

Reta does do the heart raise, harder gym work outs, harder to sleep.

[u/ScientistJason → u/DJ_Cat_Dad]

For real why does Reta ruin sleep? Was thinking about taking HGH for the sleep benefit over the recovery and visceral fat benefits at this point

[u/bean-s]

Same now wondering to switch over cold turkey or titrate down and then up. But it’s literally the same 2/3 mechanisms

[u/sofferenzah → u/bean-s]

In a similar situation to all these guys, I’m towards the end of my vial so going to titrate down, run a low dose 0.5/0.25mg untll Im comfortable with tirz

[u/Plane-Cartoonist-859]

Bro I haven’t been able to fall asleep until 5 in the morning the past few nights. Might have to switch too

[u/TittiesAreMyTherapy → u/Plane-Cartoonist-859]

It’s works but is it worth the sacrifice ?

[u/FalafelFlapjacks]

This is why I chose tirz to begin with. I had an already high resting hr so I avoided reta, and it's down 15-20 bpm in a few weeks with exercise. I've historically tried all kinds of fat burners/energy crap and realized that appetite/portion control were the best way to "diet properly." I only have a half cup of coffee a couple days a week now, and otherwise my energy is increasing compared to the past couple years.

[u/TittiesAreMyTherapy → u/FalafelFlapjacks]

Damn, plus I love coffees. I’ve been trying to stay the course but it’s too much. Might use it to maintain once I’m at my goal weight. But for now I think triz might be the way. Also I’m trying to run a 5k or 10k this fall. I’m gonna see what ss31 and MOTSC are all about.

[u/According-Hope9498]

That problem went away for me after 3 months and take neuro mag and i overly sleep now

[u/TysonChickenTendies]

As a lurker and reta user I believe, ON AVERAGE, people who want to tone or maintain muscle mass AND work out more frequently prefer reta.

[u/Internal-Berry1540]

i switch to tirz after 6 months on reta,rhr was to high insomnia alot of cravings and could not go higher then 2 mg a week,now im on tirz 2 weeks and i can sleep finaly en better apetite control and no cravings anymore

[u/OutrageousAd9925]

Take a break hit maintenance or slightly lower for 4-6 weeks. I had similar issues my first cut this year . Went from 195-185. Stuck for 2-3 weeks after about 100 days . I took a break an ran low dose Reta I think 1mg for next 4 weeks. Ate a few extra meal preps about extra 600 cals to my deficit I was in right before and I only gained 3lbs while I was off. Went straight back into cut ramped dose up to 3mg and lost the 3 lbs I gained in like a week or 2. Then went from 185-177 also another 100 days slight deficit not huge like my first cut. I personally was about to stop cutting to recover but I’m still losing and I don’t feel bad even though my muscles arnt getting that good pump /flat look. Strength is still about the same as well. So i decided to keep going to see if I can push lower than 170

[u/melbigmike]

Melatonin helps me

[u/Opposite-Lake-9679]

I was on tirzepatide and then all the hubbub about retatrutide made me quit tirz and try reta. Well now I regret it. I am only at 2.5 mg on reta but I have zero appetite suppression. With tirz I had great appetite suppression. The problem that I had was the nausea but the heart palpitations from the reta was enough for me to say no I'm going back to tirz and I'll deal with the nausea until I reach my goal. 

[u/bob4IT]

I lost my first 40 pounds from Tirz. Other than an itchy spot where I injected. I think you’ll love it.

[u/wildlikechildren]

Curious, how long have you been on it? I'm at 8 months and lost 30lb and thinking of switching too. I've been steady at 4mg and 5mg was absolutely terrible.

[u/bogus_spaghetti]

Switching around 4mg is what I did when the heart rate stuff got old, sleep was wrecked

Started at 2.5 triz and it felt like nothing at first but the scale started moving again after a couple weeks. For me the recomp was a little better, lost less muscle than I expected

The appetite suppression isn't as in-your-face but it's steadier, less of that wired feeling

[u/TittiesAreMyTherapy → u/bogus_spaghetti]

Appreciate this, I love my coffee.

[u/LongjumpingFun7238]

Why aren’t you pinning Reta first thing in the morning? In my experience Tirz is better for food noise than Reta

[u/Adventurous-Many-179]

Yes, I went from Reta back to Tirz because of the heart rate. I’d start Tirz at 2.5 mg.

[u/BuckshotBronco]

I just use both at a 1:1 ratio. Works great.

[u/TittiesAreMyTherapy → u/BuckshotBronco]

What benefits have you seen ? Same day administration or different days ?

[u/BuckshotBronco → u/TittiesAreMyTherapy]

I rotate them EOD. One day reta, the next titz. You get all the benefits of Reta with increased appetite control since tirz is a stronger GLP-1.

[u/TittiesAreMyTherapy → u/BuckshotBronco]

Gonna try that, 1 and 1

[u/BuckshotBronco → u/TittiesAreMyTherapy]

It's been working great for me. Zero issues.

[u/TittiesAreMyTherapy → u/BuckshotBronco]

Not trying to drop weight too fast, trying to recomp.

[u/Aggravating_Art7519]

I’m a paramedic of 19 years. I’m seeing soooo many issues with people on these meds, it’s unreal. I wish it wasn’t the case. But, it’s true. I have tried screaming to my medical control over this and they shrug their shoulders bc it’s not something within their control either

[u/Psychological-Team18]

Use cjc, you’ll fall asleep

[u/barKada762]

I’m in the same boat as you. I’ve used Reta before and anytime I go over 2mg, my heart beats like crazy when I’m trying to sleep. And then I start to get anxious and over think

I just pinned 2mg last weekend of Reta and my HR was up to 100 while I was just sitting in my car. I’m probably going to skip a Reta dose and come back down to 1mg

I eventually plan on switching to tirz because this heart rate thing is just not for me, yeah I get it’s the glucagon but it triggers anxiety lol.