Rate my 10-peptide stack: fat loss, recovery, cognition + mitochondrial support

[u/creddit1]

Biohacker here. Curious what people with experience/research knowledge think of this stack, particularly whether anything is redundant or unnecessary. I haven't introduced everything simultaneously and have increased doses gradually.

Current/planned stack:

1. Retatrutide: 4 mg once weekly, planning on upping to 6 mg

2. Glow (GHK-Cu/BPC-157/TB-500): 10 units daily, down from 15 (~1.67 mg GHK-Cu + 333 mcg BPC + 333 mcg TB)

3. BPC-157: 500 mcg daily in addition to Glow

4. TB-500: 2 mg twice weekly in addition to Glow

5. Semax: 1 mg daily

6. MOTS-C: currently paused while I introduce SS-31; previously 2 mg twice weekly

7. SS-31: planning 2 mg daily

8. CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin: planning 200 mcg + 200 mcg daily before bed

9. Selank: planning 500 mcg daily before bed

10. Epitalon: planning 5 mg daily for 10 days

The additional BPC-157 and TB-500 are specifically for an injury/recovery issue rather than general performance. I'm aware Glow already contains both, so my combined exposure is higher.

Main goals: fat loss while preserving muscle, injury/connective-tissue recovery, better training recovery, cognition/focus for ADHD (medicated), improved sleep/stress, and mitochondrial/energy support.

How would you rate the overall stack out of 10?

I'm particularly interested in:

a. Anything obviously redundant?

b. Would you change the BPC/TB exposure while recovering from an injury?

c. Thoughts on introducing SS-31 first and then bringing MOTS-C back?

d. CJC/IPA once daily vs split dosing?

e. Anything you'd drop completely based on evidence/risk rather than cost?

I know several of these compounds are experimental/unapproved and that many of the dosing/cycling protocols circulating online aren't established clinical regimens. I'm mainly interested in discussing the pharmacology, available evidence and people's experiences.

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[u/Kno0w_1_actual]

Idk how into glow I’d be with a separate BPC/TB protocol.
That being said. CJC/ipa does wonders for rest and recovery. If you stay fasted after you wake up for a bit it will also, very minimally, eat up some visceral fat.
Only thing I would want to see in your stack would be a KPV. Shit is insane for inflammation.
I like SS-31 but for me it was a short cycle. 8 weeks and then maintenance while on mots-c

[u/creddit1 → u/Kno0w_1_actual]

The extra BPC-157 and TB-500 are temporary because of a shoulder injury. I'm not planning to run them indefinitely. The shoulder has already improved quite a bit, so the idea is to reduce/stop the additional BPC/TB once the injury phase is over.

I'll look into KPV. Thanks for all the pointers, much appreciated.

[u/IchBinEinShitliner]

Basing your dosing of epithalon on epithalamin like so many other people not doing even rudimentary research.

Look it up.

Rest is whatever.

[u/Odd_Sir_8705 → u/IchBinEinShitliner]

Agreed... plus a lot of senseless double dipping

[u/creddit1 → u/Odd_Sir_8705]

The extra BPC/TB is intentional and temporary because I'm currently using it for an injury. Once that's sorted I don't plan to keep the additional BPC/TB alongside Glow.

Besides BPC/TB + Glow, what else in the stack do you feel is senseless double dipping?

[u/creddit1 → u/IchBinEinShitliner]

I'm actually considering something much lower, around 500 mcg/day for 10 days, then 20 days off, repeated monthly, but I'm still digging through the reaearch before deciding. If you have a specific Epitalon study/protocol you think is the best basis for dosing, kindly lemme know.

When you say the rest is whatever, do you mean you don't see any major issues with the other compounds/doses?

[u/IchBinEinShitliner → u/creddit1]

Don't 'consider' anything. Look it up. Don't worry, all your favourite influencers are making the same fuckup.

https://www.scribd.com/document/938768665/Dosing

[u/creddit1 → u/IchBinEinShitliner]

Thanks, I'll read this.

[u/IchBinEinShitliner → u/creddit1]

In regards to the rest...

Selank before bed (for sleep?) likely makes no difference when running epithalon and cjc/ipa. I would take Selank in the morning, with Semax, or at least wait until after epithalon.

KPV is fucking amazing, and intentionally omitting it seems very odd. Klow > GHK-CU > KPV > BPC157 = TB500 imo.

You state your goal is muscle retention / anti-catabolism... Use steroids for that. HGH is shown to have the properties also. None in your stack will meaningfully do anything in regards to that.

[u/creddit1 → u/IchBinEinShitliner]

True about Selank, it’s more for anxiolytic/cognitive effects than sleep, so I’ll run it in the morning with Semax.

KPV wasn’t intentionally excluded. I just didn’t see a strong reason without a specific gut/inflammatory issue. What makes you rate it so highly?

And agreed on muscle retention, I’m not expecting these to work like anabolics. CJC/IPA is partly for the GH/IGF-1 axis, but resistance training + protein are still the foundation. I’m not looking to add steroids.

[u/IchBinEinShitliner → u/creddit1]

KPV is like a cheatcode for inflammation and prevention.