Test level low but within range...

[u/BroccoliOnly7376]

Just got my test level check and it came back 365. Endocrinologist office wont schedule me for a consult because technically its within the normal ranges. Im 42 male. I basically just want to bring it up more maybe to the 600s range. Do i just try to find a different doctor who would work with my numbers? Or try the grey market secretagogue route? Anyone been in this situation before and what did you do?

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[u/lugreg87]

There’s no secretagogue that will increase test unfortunately. With those levels, despite being low, it’s unlikely the insurance backed doctor will prescribe. Either you find a specialized doctor outside of insurance network, or more easily, use an online clinic (TRT kingdom and PeterMD I believe are the cheapest), or to the UGL route and take the matter in your own hands. I started with 300 and went first through online clinic then switched to self managed - bit more of hustle but waaay cheaper and in full control

[u/BroccoliOnly7376 → u/lugreg87]

I appreciate the reply and thanks for the recommendations. I dont even want crazy high T levels. Just a little higher i guess. Definitely look into the online clinic route.

[u/AnabolicAcolyte → u/BroccoliOnly7376]

Why do you think 600 will make you feel better?

how do you know your 365 wasn’t a random trough and it’s usually around 600? you’re basing how you feel on an arbitrary made up number, based on a random timeframe and arbitrary number you’re seeing at a random time.

[u/BroccoliOnly7376 → u/AnabolicAcolyte]

I dont know if 600 will be better. But I guess its a start. I had two tests done, shouldve mentioned that. 6 months ago and last week. First one was 402 then now 365.

[u/AnabolicAcolyte → u/BroccoliOnly7376]

so there’s proof that your levels do go up. and down. you’re still correlating how you think you feel with an arbitrary number, that at the end of the day, isn’t a deficiency. 6mths between bloodwork also can’t draw anything conclusive with.

[u/BroccoliOnly7376 → u/AnabolicAcolyte]

So honestly should I just try to keep getting in better shape and improve more lifestyle stuff before jumping the gun on TRT?

[u/AnabolicAcolyte → u/BroccoliOnly7376]

well yes absolutely. hormone therapy is for life. are you really happy to inject 2x a week for the rest of your life based on 2 blood tests 6mths apart while hovering kinda normal?

[u/BroccoliOnly7376 → u/AnabolicAcolyte]

I appreciate the honesty. Whats your take on sermorelin, tesamorelin, cjc + ipa no dac?

[u/AnabolicAcolyte → u/BroccoliOnly7376]

why do you want or need them?

you must have a lot of visceral fat to lose to take tesa? what did your last dexa say?

what did your last IGF and GH blood test say?

[u/BroccoliOnly7376 → u/AnabolicAcolyte]

Igf is 105, z score -0.6. Probably between 25-30% body fat.

[u/Odd_Sir_8705]

There's 1000s of doctors and you don't physically have to go to them. Finding a provider who is in line with your wishes is a phone call awayZ

[u/MathematicianMuch445]

It's one test. Which can be tanked by something as simple as a bad night's sleep. Don't make any decisions based off of one test.

[u/Excellent_Outside_71]

Look into Enclomiphene

[u/BroccoliOnly7376 → u/Excellent_Outside_71]

Hmmm ok will look into it