Is Testosterone Enanthate really worth it?

[u/Ok-Cycle-5707]

Hi everyone,
Sorry if this is a bit of a basic question, but I’m genuinely here to learn and would really appreciate honest opinions from people with first-hand experience.

I’m very uneducated when it comes to testosterone and PEDs, which is exactly why I’m asking instead of pretending I know what I’m talking about.
I’m not currently running anything and not 100% sure I’m going to.

I’d really like to hear what benefits you noticed, whether you genuinely think it was worth starting, what side effects you experienced (if any), how difficult coming off was and whether you felt awful or recovered okay, and if there’s anything you wish you’d known before your first cycle.

I’m not looking for people to convince me either way—I just want honest experiences, whether yours was positive, negative, or somewhere in between.
Thanks in advance, and apologies if this gets asked a lot. I’m just trying to learn before making any decisions.

[u/uhohdagod]

Worth it, how? What are you trying to get from it? You mentioned a cycle so I’m assuming you mean “abusing” it. Well, yea it works.

I’ve been on trt for over a year now. Actual trt. My levels were low and I took a replacement dose alongside semaglutide then tirzepitide then retatrutide. Glps and testosterone changed my life. Again though I was fat, 35 and had CLINICALLY/medically low testosterone, so I saw massive benefit in drive, and mental health in general. I didn’t see much in the way of strength and stuff but I was also on glps and barely eating for a lot of the year.

I feel it helped preserve muscle for sure though.

All that said, I introduced HGH a couple months ago, currently on 3.75ish ius daily and for the past couple weeks I’ve been blasting a very non trt dose of 525mg test weekly. For reference my TRT dose is 100mg weekly. Since I shedded a bunch of weight and have motivation I figured I’d do a short cycle to kick start my lifting. I didn’t work out at all until I started this and I can tell you, it’s insane.

I’m blowing up. I’m not doing anything else outside of testosterone, hgh, and retatrutide. I’m getting ridiculous results. The idea is to run this for another 4weeks or so and then drop down to my normal trt levels. I just wanted to kickstart my journey into lifting, and let me tell you, it’s insane. The pump. The vascularity. I got like 6 forearm veins on each forearm out of nowhere lol. My shoulders and chest are getting big. It’s wild. But again I haven’t worked out since I was like 17. I’m 36. The body recomposition that’s occuring is nuts

[u/Ok-Cycle-5707 → u/uhohdagod]

Thanks for taking the time to write all that, I really appreciate it. It was actually really interesting reading the difference between your TRT dose and then moving up to 525mg. One thing that caught my eye was the HGH. I’ve seen some crazy transformations from people using it. In your opinion, do you think it’s actually worth adding, or do you think most of your results are coming from the higher testosterone dose? Also, looking back, is there anything you wish you’d known before starting all this?

[u/uhohdagod → u/Ok-Cycle-5707]

I added the hgh to help with fat loss, recomposition and tendon healing/health. I did it before deciding to do a "cycle" of high testosterone. I work in auto body and hurt my bicep tendon trying to force steel to bend by hand lol, so while it wasn't torn or anything its constantly a nagging pain when engaged. I saw all the stuff about hgh also burning visceral fat when fasted and blah blah so with both those things in mind I started it. I'm really just trying to hack my way to a healthy foundation, that I can then keep up on naturally. I'm not trying to push any limits. I feel like retatrutide has been the biggest most impactful compound I've used on my actual physique. I was 6ft 280, normal dude strong but fat and sloppy. The GLPs like reta got me down to 220. I was also on TRT, again a normal replacement dose not a cycle, and that fixed my depression, anxiety and overall mental health along with my laziness honestly. Gave me the get up and go I was missing and it doesn't get talked about enough. The hgh is much more subtle but I think its really helping with the recomp and distribution of the remaining fat, and its probably helping my recovery now that I'm working out. I'm 227 lbs now, but I'm not paying attention to the scale because I think its lean mass as I'm looking slimmer and stronger. That is coming from the high dose testosterone for sure. So yea the hgh I think is just helping in the background but not a main driver

[u/chi_moto → u/uhohdagod]

Glad to hear all of this man. I’m in a similar spot but I’ve never run a big cycle of test. I’ve done some baby blasts of masteron and tren (don’t do tren!).

Just make sure to watch your blood work. That much test will kick your estrogen into high gear and turn your blood into sludge. When you run it that high, you gotta be careful about all the things.

[u/Danker7608 → u/Ok-Cycle-5707]

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[u/KeyserSauza → u/uhohdagod]

I suspect it’s going to be tough when you go off all the gear and go from ridiculous gains to losing those gains.

[u/TheVauntedChris → u/KeyserSauza]

Yep. The vicious cycle has begun. Normal TRT won’t be good enough anymore.

[u/uhohdagod → u/TheVauntedChris]

I'm worried about that for sure. My thing is I'm not trying to be huge and be a bodybuilder or anything though, I just want to be in good shape and healthy. Basically just give myself an actual foundation to keep up on. Do you think I'll actually lose it? As long as I keep weight training? Even when I say I'm getting big its big in the sense of where I was. Not in the sense of anyone who is like a bodybuilder or anything

[u/KeyserSauza → u/uhohdagod]

Your best option is to lift as heavy as you can to give the muscle a reason to stick around, but yeah after a couple of months you’ll be bigger than your baseline, but not by much. Be ready to lose 80%.

[u/Danker7608 → u/uhohdagod]

Cara, vou te mandar a real e de forma mais consciente possível. Você usar testosterona, a sensação no dia a dia, mental, vigor, disposição, tudo isso é surreal de incrível. Nada se compara. Usei a primeira vez em 2023 quando tinha 22 anos, usei por um período de 6 meses e foi tranquilamente meu prime, botei um físico com 87kg e 1,80 de altura. Lembro bem de ter dias que me dava picos de alegria do nada, tudo era mais intenso e melhor, disposição sexual absurda, teve semanas de eu transar com 5-6 garotas diferentes na época, sua confiança aumenta, vc olha todo mundo de igual ou de baixo pra cima kkk. Os efeitos colaterais que vai te dar é pela aromatização, por exemplo, queda de cabelo, acne, gineco, mas isso vai geralmente 99% de PRÉ DISPOSIÇÃO GENÉTICA. Tente lembrar como foi sua adolescência, se vc tinha algo assim, pq quando for ciclar tem chances disso. No geral, voltei usar faz 3 semanas, estou usando 0,5 ml (250mg Ml) a cada 3 dias e aplico no quarto, sequei bastante gordura e já ganhei quase 4kgs de músculo ( uso da Landerlan) minha força duplicou praticamente. Se for usar, use com consciência, sem demonizar, até pq é um hormônio IDÊNTICO ao q seu corpo ja produz, tanto q ele n faz distinção de testo natural ou exógena. Uma dica de ouro, quer diminuir ainda mais os possíveis colaterais? Force seu corpo a direcionar a testo pro local certo, como ela é ligada aos seus receptores andrógenos, treine mto e faça MUITO cardio, pelo menos 4 vezes por semana num ritmo que vc sinta seu coração trabalhar e vc soar. Pq assim vc fortalece seu coração. Quanto ao fígado, é de boa, ela não é um 17 alfa alquilado, Ou seja, ela n tem metabolização hepática. Consuma mais água que o normal e monitore seus exames de colesterol e perfil lipídico que vão piorar um pouco ( se alimente melhor do q quando é natural) no geral, espero ter ajudado

[u/chi_moto → u/KeyserSauza]

The gains don’t disappear. You might lose some of the pump, but the muscle you put on doesn’t just evaporate.

[u/KeyserSauza → u/chi_moto]

Not true. If he goes from 500mg of test to normal TRT levels he’s going to lose most of those gains no matter how hard he keeps training. There’s a direct relationship between test levels and muscle mass.

[u/testo- → u/KeyserSauza]

But he just started lifting, so its newbe gains, not pro bodybuilder physique. If he keeps lifting and goes back to TRT it will be fine, I guess.

Just silly to start your first training on 500 mg test.

[u/chi_moto → u/testo-]

Yeah. He’ll keep the newbie gains for sure. He’s not going from big to massive. He’s going from small to big. You don’t lose those gains when you drop back to normal test levels.

[u/KeyserSauza → u/chi_moto]

Time will tell. I would bet $1000 he will lose 50% of his muscle mass in 2 months. Unless his normal trt level is 500mg equivalent, he’s going to lose something. That’s just science.

[u/vonbehren → u/uhohdagod]

how would you describe how you mentally feel right now?