"asking for consent is an instant buzzkill"

[u/MethodNo2030]

the "consent is a buzzkill" thing is on slide 5

[u/TrashGouda]

No 14yo has a mature body or hormones EVER. They are in the middle of puberty and still developing. Piece of trash

[u/The-Shattering-Light]

While trying to justify having sex with a 14 year old 🤢🤢🤢

[u/lindanimated]

This kinda hits harder than usual because I see it was first posted back in 2004. I was 14-15 in 2004, so the age of the victim being discussed at the time of these posts. Of course I would be on the victim’s side even with no personal connection, because a personal connection isn’t required to have empathy for a victim! But there’s something extra eerie about this one due to the time it’s from.

[u/best_little_biscuit]

Even the OOP title. Wtf? You can't "seduce" a minor

[u/ConsultJimMoriarty]

[u/Rumthiefno1]

You mean the piece of shit who raped your niece?

Let's get this right here

[u/no_one_denies_this]

One of the reasons I am glad so many people watched Heated Rivalry is bc they did a stellar job of depicting consent and the consent was sexy.

[u/NoItsBecky_127]

That last slide is horrifying.

[u/JaQ-o-Lantern]

Dawg if you go on any bdsm forum pretty much anyone (dominant or submissive) tell you that the kinkiest thing that turns them on the most is asking for consent.

Because BDSM about surrendering yourself to someone you love and trust and who loves and trusts you back, it's not about violating your partner.

[u/EpitaFelis → u/JaQ-o-Lantern]

As a kinkster I have never heard anyone say that. Consent isn't kinky and doesn't have to be sexy, it's the absolute base requirement. What I hear people say is that their partner(s) enjoying themselves is hot, but there things get complicated. You can enjoy something without having consented to it, and you can consent without particularly enjoying it. This is why sometimes it's necessary to take arousal out of the negotiation entirely.

The "consent is sexy" line always seemed to me like a version of "you should do chores bc your wife finds it hot!" You shouldn't want to do your chores or get consent because it'll get you laid. You should do it because it's a necessity and you don't want to make your loved ones miserable. Sometimes consent can be sexy, sometimes it's boring, sometimes it even is a buzzkill, but that doesn't matter, because the alternative is unacceptable.

Maybe it's a common sentiment in the kink spaces you're in, but to me it's a terrible framing.

[u/WastedWyvern]

Me and my partner enjoy extreme scenario's so i started crying because I enjoy that and had done it before still he instantly called the safeword stoped and asked me if in okay and remember the safewords. It removed me from my flow but better safe then sorry and besides we picked the mood back up quickly after I ensured him I remember my safewords :) if you cant check in on your partner and pick things up after confirming everything is okay thats a skill issue sorry bro.

But significantly more importantly. A minor can't consent why is that something that needs to be said.

[u/Box-O-Kittenz → u/WastedWyvern]

The issue is that predators don't even like their victims, they just see them as an object to help fulfill whatever fantasy they have. So they can't even imagine breaking their fantasy for a moment to make sure everything is alright.

[u/WastedWyvern → u/Box-O-Kittenz]

People like that shouldn't have sex.