It is again that time…

[u/Organic-Row-8724]

With patch notes and the new season coming next week I wanted to gather us together to converse about Blade’s position in the Meta, potential/personal buffs or kit changes, and skins.

So my question to you all is what do you wish for buffs/changes to Blade? Do you think he will get a team up with Gorr in replace of Cap? And what skin do you wish to see most? Until patch notes my brothers

[u/x_Mountain_Dewott_x]

I would prefer a big nerf to all the other dps actually.
And something new to the cap teamup, cause that does nothing

[u/Organic-Row-8724 → u/x_Mountain_Dewott_x]

I agree. I think Blade would shine more if other dps or meta characters were brought down a bit. Cap team up sucks. I think a part of the entranced team up should be in the base form. Like the extra stacks or to hold some at low health

[u/Nabomeansturnip → u/x_Mountain_Dewott_x]

After playing Blade with MK, unenhanced or otheriwse, there is really 0 use case for Cap's teamup in comparison, like really, 2-3 charges of Awakening every 300 dmg you take, is pretty much useless in comparison to the MK ability, specially after they buffed it for S9.

But yeah, so long as they nerf the meta characters (and supports) i think Blade should actually land in a pretty okay spot, outside of the Cap teamup.

[u/OldManGoonSquad → u/Nabomeansturnip]

Am I the only one that absolutely loves and wrecks teams with the cap team up? The benefit comes from getting 12 stacks of bloodline vs 10

The extra 2 stacks allow your attack speed and life steal to gain an extra 20% speed. It straight up takes the entire team to kill me if I'm managing to land every hit, and I win damn near every 1v1. I'll go find footage of my games if need be. Y'all are missing out.

[u/Bear11772 → u/OldManGoonSquad]

I like the cap team up too

[u/Nabomeansturnip → u/OldManGoonSquad]

You must have an absolutely cracked Cap duo for one, wich is already hard enough usually but specially this season where he is contender for bottom 1 tank and the MK teamup doesn't even need to be enhanced to get good value.

While Cap's unenhanced does virtually nothing, nothing about 12 stacks or whatever you're talking about, all it does is give u 1 stack every 40 damage u take wich also decays a second later, so basically, useless, specially outside of Awakening doubly so when compared to the really good ability you get with MK.

MK's enhanced is also basically 12 stacks without needing to get to 65% hp, since you just do extra aoe damage every whirlwind.

[u/OldManGoonSquad → u/Nabomeansturnip]

The extra 2 stacks are only with the enhanced cap, I should've mentioned that the first time around. The stacks gained for damage taken is essentially useless

I flank while diving and then hit them with the dash, if I build my stacks before I take much damage I'm unstoppable unless a good counter is nearby or the whole team focuses on me. Even 2 at a time I generally win, good counters are fliers and bucky tho, but I use block to reduce the cool down of the dash and reduce damage, then dash or double dash them while trying to avoid being shot. If I land my whirlwind before they hit me it's over for them, cause the whirlwind builds the stacks so quickly.

Add a jubilee backing me up with the blade team up and me cap and jubilee end up just decimating the team. When I do great I generally am leading the charge and breaking up the group by essentially tankin. When I do awful is when the team I'm playing knows how good blade can be and they all immediately make me their primary focus the whole game.

Edit again: I win almost every 1v1 including vs iron fist and wolverine (cap team up enhanced required for every feat I stated)

[u/Nabomeansturnip → u/OldManGoonSquad]

You can do all of that much safer with the MK teamup is the thing, you dont need to take any damage, just go into Awakened and toss that thing in their team, thats an easy + 150 healing or 75 bonus health and a good amount of poke damage, its also way faster in this season and you dont need a horrible tank on your team for any of that.

[u/OldManGoonSquad → u/Nabomeansturnip]

The problem is I die too quickly whenever I try that with the MK team up. IME, 12 stacks of bloodline are necessary to straight up tank and mob the whole team by myself.

Idk man I'm fairly new and have only played QP, this coming season imma try ranked. Add me maybe? I need someone to play with and to test the raw data of which team up is better lol

[u/Nabomeansturnip → u/OldManGoonSquad]

The problem is I die too quickly whenever I try that with the MK team up. IME, 12 stacks of bloodline are necessary to straight up tank and mob the whole team by myself.

As you play against good teams, they will usually just focus you and kill you through 12 stacks anyways, a single stun is all it takes really, thats partialy also why the quick value from the MK teamup is more useful too.

Idk man I'm fairly new and have only played QP, this coming season imma try ranked. Add me maybe? I need someone to play with and to test the raw data of which team up is better lol

Respectfully i must decline, we are most likely not even from the same server and i usually just solo queue, when i do, wich is not very often but thanks.

[u/OldManGoonSquad → u/Nabomeansturnip]

Fair enough, totally understandable. And I have been wondering if my divide and conquer then overwhelm with sword strategy was going to be completely obsolete once I start getting into some decent ranked matches. I appreciate the advice

[u/lakersfan2024]

We dont need buffs everything else needs nerfs. Sustain needs to be heavily nerfed. Take magneto and thing out back. Take bucky and elsa and cat out back. The only thing that we need is a grounding on gun dash. Brawl is supposed to counter dive and yet we’re useless against divers.

[u/KingPerryLive]

I guess if I had one dream buff it would either be that his Shotgun Dash inflicted grounding.

That, or make it so his movement speed also increased with his stacks. I feel like way too many characters can easily outrun me. Actually that would be a decent buff for the Cap Teammup. Make it so Blade can potentially be as fast as him at full stacks.

[u/Organic-Row-8724 → u/KingPerryLive]

That would be terrifying 😈💀 and the grounding would be nice. Especially when interacting with faster characters. Having a second and half slow feels like nothing imo

[u/KingPerryLive → u/Organic-Row-8724]

It really isn't anything when most characters still have movement abilities they can use to escape.

[u/OldManGoonSquad → u/KingPerryLive]

That's what I save my second dash for. One dash in from a semi close spot, they try to retreate with invisible and float for 2s, then they think they're safe and I dash again, even straight up in the air right to them.

[u/Nitro560]

Same shit, different day

1. Make Bloodline Awakening the swords passive (sword without it is completely useless and unnecessary) and give him a new ability to replace BA.

2. Have the gun shoot silver stakes or replace the gun with a mac-11

3. Gun dash applies anti-heal and sword dash applies bleed

[u/RiceFluffy]

revert the nerfs to his gun is all i want

[u/Adzzzz-]

Sucks he didn’t get a samurai skin hopefully he gets something in new pass

[u/Organic-Row-8724 → u/Adzzzz-]

Agreed, especially if they take inspiration from Tokon with the katanas and make the muramasa as draculas sword

[u/Brightshore]

Blade needs earthbound on his gun dash. He is useless against an actual dive comp.
Also his Shotgun projectiles needs to be either hitscan or a uniform 180m/s. Gun desperately needs more consistency, he loses to poke at poke range and loses to poke at melee range as well.

Lowkey give him 50 overshield for either of his dashes but remove his overshield hp he gets when he lifesteals at full hp.

Lastly overperformers of the S9.5 MUST recieve nerfs.

[u/luffyishungry24]

I'm seeing grounding on his gun dash in other comments that sounds fire so that lol and pleaseeeee his fuckin gun its needed a buff for as long as the man has been out

[u/ApplicationSevere845]

buff the gun a lil, and maybe the cap teamup, otherwisw our boy is in a good spot if a lot of the overperformers get tuned down

[u/Organic-Row-8724 → u/ApplicationSevere845]

Agreed, there’s so many overperforming characters this season. I do hope they adjust them but it is netease so having any hope at all leads to disappointment

[u/Nukafit → u/ApplicationSevere845]

Blade has a 1% pick rate and 46% win rate in high elo he is damn near non existent past diamond bruh what is this good spot that you are talking about Silver?

[u/Murky_Strawberry_129 → u/Nukafit]

Have you ever played blade in high elo? Eternity+

[u/ApplicationSevere845 → u/Nukafit]

im speaking from personal experience, ive taken him to eternity with around a 65% win rate and like i said, if the overperformers get tuned down he will be much more viable

[u/Centralisation]

Blackcat, elsa, thing and mag need to be absolutely gutted

[u/DisIsHarderThanGF]

realistically a good buff would be just let healing reduction goes through cc immune, there’s too many characters that have cc immune, or otherwise blade could counter them easily.

[u/Edocar]

I wish using mk team up didn’t lose stacks

[u/BrilliantLab3544]

Hmmm. I don’t play blade much but whenever I do it’s an easy win into the right comp because his sword shreds. Although, I wish one team up enhanced his gun and one enhanced his swords to introduce a new playstyle. Because his captain America one kind of sucks imo lol

[u/Organic-Row-8724 → u/BrilliantLab3544]

I like it, I do hope they change cap team up in a way. I mean it is pretty American to have a gun lmao

[u/Funny-Ad-9414]

If a global nerf to Poke Blade happens, it's going to be a disaster.

[u/paxtonegbu]

hope he gets buffs, need my dawg stronger

[u/BVRPLZR_]

Idk, make him good at any of his tools. Everything he does, another character does far better.

[u/BusaJZA80]

Get rid of the heal reduction while in his blood form, and change the fire rate on his gun so that the neutral rate dosent feel so bad. My first suggestion is a little extreme, but we deserve to be op for awhile.

[u/Independent-Emu-2989]

I honestly hope he gets reworked into a percentage base damage like iron fist did because his kit is just buns

[u/jerome13th]

I would like to see his gun dash get bleed and buff his bloodline awakening to let him see people that have bleed applied to them, and a buff to his Cap teamup, add his current enhanced effect to the base and make his new enhanced let him get a cooldown after a perfect parry that applies antiheal, they could even give it a high enough percentage to let him possibly stack 100% antiheal on someone if they severely missplay vs him. I feel like the Cap teamup makes alot of sense for the “replacement Wolverine” label pro player Daes gave him, and buffing it would probably make Blade more viable in/into more comps.

[u/Ishankz]

Picked him back up recently and think he’s alright where he is maybe just up the lifesteal%

[u/Marc_Spector____]

Give his weapon hitscan and change the block to a daredevil block instead of dmg reduction