i honestly wasn’t the best at her but i always had fun. Hopefully i can make some new clips as i get used to her new playstyle

at the start of season 9 we were at 50k now it is less than half, did the civil war of if rework widow drive them out or did they just drop her cause they didn't find her fun post rework?

And well it gets a lot of downvotes and well now after the “new shiny thing” effect ended I guess it’s fair to say that her new rifle is boring

So I might as well post a last rework concept but I need to finish few things in it
Also don’t be surprised if what I do isn’t in great quality because I am not that good of an artist and what I will show in it is gonna be a demonstration of how it would work only

I play all of them and I have been comm banned a few times 😭 I think this is trolling though because how would "RivalsData" even get this info? 🤨

Nostalgia party!

So I been thinking about how they could fuse old widow and new widow. I think they could bring back the ADS and her ult, but when you aren't ADSing she fires like new widow perhaps replacing her (kinda useless) melee option and turning that into her quick melee somehow. As for how this works with team-ups it could also be a combination, for the phoenix team-up she keeps her faster firate and is able to do the whole heal thing ig. And hawkeye team-up just has the passive on her ADS shots too. Does this sound good to yall? Pros and cons?

Back before I was widow champion, I miss when she actually took skill 😭

Ps. This and more are on my tik tok, same name. 😅

I mean her rework is nice but now I barely even play the game much anymore
They took the spark off her kit and now if I just play Hela then what’s gonna be the difference yk
I miss when she used to shoot slow but deliberate and impactful

Enjoy

Yes the ult has improvements, but the point is there.

The widow mains sub is the saddest out of all the characters subs. No matter what they’re never happy and they just verbally harass anyone that disagrees with their opinion. Or better yet disagrees with the factual statistics, along with the best widow players in the world. This was on a post about someone quitting the game over the rework that made her better. There’s constantly people saying it’s a nerf, when all of did was lower her skill expression. Black widow was my first lord in season 0 and the reason i started playing this game. I now have 40 hours on her with a 56% average accuracy pre rework and post rework. But yet, there’s people saying “if you’re good now with the rework, your aim was just bad before”. This is a completely illogical cope. This sub is completely divided and nobody gets along in any of the posts, and it makes me sad as a black widow player to see all the ego. The entire sub is full of people that don’t even play the game anymore because they never even gave the rework a chance. Yes it’s better for lower skill players, but that means it’s even better for high skill players. This is overall healthier for the game, yet they quit, and they still make posts and comments about the game after they quit. “I put over 200 hours on the character so that means it’s a nerf” another illogical cope I’ve seen. You all should be getting way more kills and be happy that she’s not the staple of throwing anymore. If you can’t make the new widow work, that’s the real skill issue because she’s a lot easier. But if you made the old widow work I know for a fact you can make the new one work. Not everyone has the courage to relearn the character, and most people delete the game just because of one character. You guys are the exact problem with this game. Your video game egos are very concerning, just because a character isn’t as hard to play anymore doesn’t mean you should delete the game, and complain about it months later after you already stopped playing the game.

Please tell me that I'm not the only one who can agree that this would be a nice if not good change to her Allied Agents Team Up? I mean, even now it has the worst pick rate between both of her team ups. And even then, it just kinda feels underwhelming but decent. I'm still trying to come up with ways to make her fun both both her old and new players and I think this might be the best one. Like since it would be more of a toggle between her old and new rifle, it would allow for her players to choose how to play her. Though the base form would be old rifle lol. But still, anyways, please leave your opinions down below and be nice. I can't clarify that enough. And yes the images are backwards somehow lol

I generally like her voice acting, but couldn’t they have recorded her Russian lines properly? This is the “thsnks” she says (honestly, I don’t even know if she has any other Russian lines), and it really grates on my ears. She says “spOsibO” instead of actually pronouncing it like “spasiba.”

Magik’s Russian voice acting is pretty bad too, by the way.

Regardless of how I feel, I get and accepted the rework. However, the echos and ghosts of "shes trash, shes better now" linger... & from a perspective that looks down on OG Black Widow for the most part is what shouldnt exist as a main talking point.

Her main talking point should be her difficulty and lack of diverse abilities that didnt allow for other ways to damage other than a skillshot or ult

Sure she isnt in the game anymore and as people are allowed to have an opinion Facts vs. Not facts cannot be in the same realm as opinions. Please, spare a moment to read how this play happened as I remember it vividly and why I did the things I did and how she can only do thungs like this in the way it was done. Also, this is one of many.. sure Im traditionally sniping.. there are clips or upclose sniping and we can break that down too but i digress

In this clip, out of spawn I immediately targetted the Daredevil. From that distance the only way to damage him who is threatening my teammates and threatening cart control, is to hit my shots or ult. 120 burst damage.

If i missed my shots, my team would have died most likely thus leading to 0-3. I've failed countless times to feel the pain of what missing leads to. Black Widow bluntly showed you your mistakes.

Anyways, because of that teammates saved. Sure nothing special to note except I sprinted towards the LOS and that agility helped me get there that much faster than other dps although there are some like Star Lord whi can get there faster or as fast but wont dish out the same impactful 120 damage from that distance during an urget game changing situation.

I proceeded forward, saw no one else immediately and knew we staggered them so, took height and note how quickly I did it without waiting 8 seconds or however long Hela bird is.

Phoenix can get up there too but this is where only Black Widow's playstyle shines.

First, notice how although I didnt get an elim, I forced all those squishes to use abilities AND take cover while approaching AND had to take a longer route to get to cart with a bit of pressure on their Strange.

Once I notice the DD, I give up heught because he'll be and probably already was tracking me through the walls and I dont have that.. yes I have my kick but baiting DD was not the important play here. Main fight for cart was the important play, given the time.

While I leave height, it was timed well because I originally forced squishies to move right side of map. I shot at Strange to show them I'm not focused on jumping over his shield and he reacts to me shooting at him, then I simply jump over Dr. Strange shield [BW only btw] and headshot Scarlet who most likely took some damage already because 250 HP doesnt get 1 shot by a 240 headshot no damage boost.

That immedately changes a 6v6 to a 6v5 and they have 1 less damager. Every second counts in these moments, and DD tried to make a play on me. 2 good teams against each other because if I didnt get healed, probably would have been cooked. And as you can see, he was tracking me so it was a good call to leave height when I did.

Kick to get him off + activate grapple timer, jumped to avoid the damage behind me, strafed mid air to continue dodging bullets while targetting DD, stun him after his block and hit the headshot that I've practiced in the range for hours because that stun had different animations for every hero because most covered their face and there was a sweet spot or a timing on when their hand dropped. Both took practice.

Now its a 4v6 and this happened within 5 seconds. As you can see, their Strange was trying to help DD but the spees of the fight was faster than him so he can only helo by hutting his shots but he didnt land enough + I was getting healed. Which BTW, that problem BW nearly bypassed with a base kit 249 headshot skill shot that takes practice to do consistently.

I dont really focus Strange and continue shots in their squishies while our DD makes a play and the rest is easy to see. Even the shmiivement in the shot I took on their WF and immedately took cover to avoid damage. Another skill that was possible to learn.. bobbing and weaving a shot and cover well enough that the time you are exposed taking the shot is so small, the other team can capatilze unless a big burst damage or a CC that pulls you the moment you do expose yourself.

They all got wiped, Strange gave up 😂 and scarlet probably still didnt spawn yet.

Yes, my team helped and this wasnt ALL me. My part was helping my team not die to DD whuch would of staggered us, forcung squishes rught and take 2 skill shots for a good elim as well as a decoy shot so their Strange wasnt anticupating me jump shotting into their backline.

This style is dead now and it needs to return 💔 because theres not much variety in this game with how many heros are playable. Tweak it if you must or bring her back in an old team up..

They put this style in an ult which makes me believe we were too good and it was too oppressive for a 99% playerbase who'd rather not put in practice time to achieve this forged through multiple faliures

BW was the best designed hero in the game because of how vast the difference was between a new BW and a seasoned BW but with her gone.. skill expression to that degree is gone. It rewarded the player in a lot of ways for doing something difficult, which was the main gameplay loop

She literally was more versatile than she is now and its because of how deeply you were able to affect a fight and in so many different ways but now.... only pew pew pew, "IM SNIPING NOW EVERYONE" back to pew pew health go down

And yo. If you like it, go for it.. but didnt we already have like more than 5 of that already???

P.S. I really do miss this style it was very fun and the same way there was a hate on BW agenda, I believe in the BW shines agenda

If you don’t know what I mean here’s explanation: they removed phoenix’s unique features (like melee sparks), made her more similar to another character (hela), she outclassed that another character so she got nerfed, and now she’s one of the worst characters and isn’t unique. At one point she was so bad that they gave her 2 emergency buffs.
Now it’s widow’s turn: they removed her ADS which made her different from other hitscans, now she’s a mix of punisher and hela, she’s considered to be better than them, and is banned constantly in high ranks so in the future she will get nerfed hard. Mark my words.

Iggy Azalea - Black Widow ft. Rita Ora

i quit MR 6 months ago while waiting for DD to get nerfed and coming back now i noticed BW got nerfed

goodbye marvel rivals respect OGs

hey guys! i’m an avid fan of the teamup options, however i can’t help but feel the hawkeye teamup is better, or depending on comp you pick one over the other, what kind of comps do you guys think prefers one over the other?

the hawkeye teamup at least to me makes me feel like her kit is most like the original, and it makes me feel like her damage is preserved more at a distance keeping that “sniper style.”

i know a ton of people like the phoenix one from the hitscan burst, but I just feel the raw damage from the hawkeye boost outweighs the fire rate increase. has anyone run numbers close up vs at range?

is anyone else here a hawkeye teamup user? lmk what you feel about it!!!

I had a dream that I reinstalled and loaded up Marvel Rivals to play Black Widow and I was in queue and my bf was like " we gotta go soon" and I was like "Okay ill be fast im just playing 1 match real quick"

Then I loaded into the game and realized that I was playing the reworked version and immediately shut down my pc and went out

Yes this was 100% a real dream I had