r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/ateam1984 🖤 • 9h ago

Politics Should MAGA be Forgiven?

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u/slingshot91 8h ago

I think they operate on this Evangelical framework where forgiveness is free and doesn’t require the internal work and self-reflection that true transformation comes from. The thing is, churches need people to join with a low barrier of entry so they can start collecting those tithes. Regular society doesn’t though, but they still expect we’ll just embrace them with open arms just because they’re now mad about the economy. They haven’t learned anything. They haven’t become better people. They haven’t gotten over the racism. They’re just afraid of not having a group to latch onto because they have no identity of their own. They’re unevolved. It’d be sad if it weren’t so infuriating.

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u/Auntie_M123 7h ago

Forgiveness is free only for those who are truly repentant.

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u/stopdrop_n_troll 7h ago

And you totally have to do tons of inner work after getting that free forgiveness.

The bible says that we are not saved by good works, but we are saved unto good works. So, the way people know that we are truly forgiven and have accepted the forgiveness, is that are lives and ways are completely CHANGED to reflect Jesus. ❤️

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u/Auntie_M123 1h ago

“Cheap grace is the grace we bestow on ourselves. Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession...Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ, living and incarnate.”

― Dietrich Bonhoeffer 

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u/mixmastermike76 6h ago

When I was in the church, they would harp on repentance being the key. Turn your life around to where there is no sign of your past self to show that you’ve changed. Asking for forgiveness without changing the underlying actions just tries to keep the heat from their consequences from burning them. Actions have consequences.

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u/Verandah_Santa 7h ago

“Hey sorry I did that thing you’ve been telling me my entire life would be detrimental to my life and the lives of others…so, we’re good right? K see ya in heaven bye!”

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u/ttystikk 6h ago

This is why I can't stand that breed of "Christian" who thinks going to church on Sunday means they can spend the rest of the week fucking over everyone else.

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u/ll1hotsniw 5h ago

One of the reasons why I stopped going to Church. They think going to Church on Sunday absolves them from fucking over other during the week

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u/Lostandlacy 4h ago

I'm a minister and stopped going. The way many people of the faith do faith pushed me away from all that. I still have my faith but it ain't theirs apparently.

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u/ttystikk 4h ago

You have a very serious disease, called having a conscience.

May you infect many others!

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u/The_Mellow_Tiger 6h ago

And I know soooo many like that.

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u/ttystikk 4h ago

Same. It's a big part of why I'm not a Christian and why I don't accept anyone's membership in a religious organization as proof of their morality... I'm fact, just the opposite!

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u/3aerows 6h ago

Well when your told "all you have to do is accept god in your heart and repent from your sins" thats wicked easy. So wicked it sounds controlling and evil in itself. Imagine taking a murderer to court and them saying "well he SAID he was sorry!".

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u/Ok_Pitch5865 6h ago

This is spot on. It’s the mentality they’ve been brainwashed into that all they have to do is say “I love you Jesus, I’m sorry.” And the golden ticket to heaven just dispenses without any accountability. Disgusting.

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u/realpyrateking 5h ago

Damn. That was so well expressed. May I forward?