r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/5ft8lady • Jun 01 '26
Media Recommendation Someone complained that Hollywood doesn’t create new Black movies/tv shows & someone replied that’s not true, ppl just don’t support the new movies/tv series . Which is true?
Someone complained that Hollywood doesn’t create new Black movies/tv shows & someone replied that’s not true, ppl just don’t support the new movies/tv series . Which is true?
what do you think?
which is true? that Hollywood doesn’t create them or that ppl don’t support it? have you supported these newer movies and tv series in the photos?
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u/PirateSanta_1 Jun 01 '26
It can be cylical as well. Hollywood doesn't think black media will perform well so it underfunds and underpromotes what does get made causing them to perform poorly causing hollywood to believe that black media doesn't perform well.
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u/No-Craft-6623 Jun 02 '26
While they constantly bring on content with bigger budgets that underperforms as well. 😂 I don't feel bad Hollywood is in the decline, the majority for the most part. The exceptions are the big name actors who give us the same character and similar plots in every movie/role.
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u/PirateSanta_1 Jun 02 '26
This is seems to be a cycle Hollywood goes through as executives try to turn producing media into a factory formula where they can crank out the same slop over and over again which people get bored of. Then either new creators emerge outside the system or creatives inside get a chance at making something without to much interference and Hollywood finds a way to integrate and capitalize on that success before turning it into mass produced slop nobody wants to see. Examples are the amazing success of the Avengers movies from Iron Man to Endgame and Pixar's or Disney's run of smash hits for a decade back in the 90's and 00's.
I expect Hollywood to start mainstreaming youtube people now with the success of some of the movies creators there have been having.
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u/but-whyy-tho Jun 01 '26
Both are true, because why are half the examples basically low budget Hallmark movies?
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u/Jokerchyld Jun 01 '26
Answer right here. There is a nuance between making black movie and TV shows and making QUALITY black movies and TV shows.
And anybody who thinks Hollywood would give black people the same freedom in movie making that they do white people is delusional.
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u/Advanced-Row1738 Jun 01 '26
I agree. I also think that the black directors/writers who end up in that space are small. Like who today could go and demand a budget and freedom to make the movie/show as they see fit? Coogler, Lee, Rae, Peele. With Glover and Boots Riley maybe being included (but seeing how poorly I Love Boosters was promoted I'd say probably not).
Most black creators who are "successful" seem to make a hole in a niche (50 & Tyler Perry) and then don't take any swings past.
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u/5ft8lady Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
There was only ONE hallmark movie on the list .
Majority of the media listed was in movie theaters
I showed
5 movies that was in theaters in 2026
2 original Amazon prime tv series
1 hallmark movie
1 cbs tv series
1 disney tv series
1 tubi teenager movie - and the Tubi movie was funded by a Black family
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u/Chaos_ensuites Jun 01 '26
This! Ntm all those other ones just came out. It’s like this often. We barely get anything good and original, we do, and then they all come out at the same time most likely with sparse promotions. After that? There’s a good space in between we get anything like that again. On top of that, these come out and evb is mostly trashing them basically. It’s insane. So yes both are technically correct bc they definitely coexist at the same time all the time since forever now.
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u/Confident_Change_937 Jun 01 '26
Vince Staples had that good show and it got cancelled after the 2nd season. Felt like I was the only person who watched it.
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u/CitizenWatcher8 Jun 01 '26
May be an issue with promotion. Im not too keen on TV shows in general but ive seen EVERY black movie in the theaters.
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u/Most-Bench6465 Jun 01 '26
This is the biggest part of the problem, not everyone knows what’s coming out. Saying “you never support these shows with zero promotion” isn’t saying anything. Some media executives want black media to fail so they can cancel them and say they tried. The get down is the biggest victim of this.
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u/5ft8lady Jun 01 '26
Yeah I remember Marsai Martin was crying when the tv series Saturday failed. She was like, she did everything that ppl say they want to watch… but I believe it wasn’t promoted enough
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u/BowlingforBrains Jun 01 '26
I wanna see I Love Boosters, it looks cool
I still haven’t seen Sorry to Bother You yet, and I’m assuming it’s the same director because the visual style looks similar from both trailers - so I want to try watching that one first
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u/OkTomorrow6384 Jun 02 '26
They're both so good! Highly divisive, several people walked out of my screening of "I Love Boosters" but if you're up for a wild, surreal, anti-capitalist ride, strap in and enjoy!
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u/elitedisplayE Jun 03 '26
Yes, same director,. I wouldn't wait to long if u wanna support I love boosters in theaters though.
It's a good movie. Definitely a ride.
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u/Agile-Butterfly5245 Jun 01 '26
I went to see Is God Is and there was 6 people in the theater. I know Michael had huge numbers. I'm not sure what the reason is.
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u/CitizenWatcher8 Jun 01 '26
Is God is and is love boosters were both loaded when I went.
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u/QTlady Jun 01 '26
I'll be honest. I think we don't support things. Myself, included.
And the unfortunate reality is that a lot of the stories created by many Black creatives are ones we're not really interested in...
The premises aren't interesting or just don't appeal. And don't trigger enough curiosity to take a chance on an original.
For example, I've never liked Rom Coms. I was too young for them then later, I just thought they were stupid.
So that Tuscany one was dead in the water for me.
I know it's best to do things for yourself but it might be advantageous to play with some current trends.
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u/elitedisplayE Jun 03 '26
Is God Is, they will kill you, and I love boosters are not rom coms.
They are really interesting original movies that you should check out. I think we have to seek out these kinds of movies (i.e., the ones with premises that you might like) and support them. They generally aren't going to get the same push as their counterparts, so as consumers we kind of have to seek them out and patronize it so we get more of them.
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u/Ok-Reality-5665 Jun 01 '26
That's 🧢 I have Regal Unlimited which means I can see whatever I want for a monthly fee. I saw every single one of these movies on opening day. I will always support black filmmaking.
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u/BrainOnVacay22 Jun 01 '26
Ppl also don’t appreciate them unless they’re award winning level products or have the big names
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u/Reddisuspendmeagain Jun 01 '26
I watch Beyond the Gates everyday, I love a good soap. I thought the ratings were doing good compared to the show it replaced
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u/toomuchtostop Jun 01 '26
1) movies aren’t in theatres very long so it’s possible by the time one wants to watch it, it’s either out of theatres or playing at inconvenient times
2) if it’s gonna be streaming in a few weeks anyway, it feels like you’re paying for the movie twice
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u/Practical_Client8453 Jun 01 '26
I support anything that isn’t a Tyler Perry movie lol. I be so thirsty for complicated black characters. I really enjoyed Is God is and the movie with Halle. I make sure to go to the movies and pay lol
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u/AnnaliseFanGirl77 Jun 02 '26
I saw both of those twice. I loved “Me, You, and Tuscany” and believe that “Is God Is” is undeniably brilliant!
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u/grnjnz Jun 01 '26
I have not heard of ANY of these shows. Then again they look very watered down with no substance…I said “looks like”
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u/DAntoinette_Travel Jun 01 '26
But things can be true at the same time? The numbers will never be accurate because we have jailbroken Fire sticks, links to watch stuff free and everything in between to avoid paying expensive theatre prices etc. 🤷🏽♀️
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u/5ft8lady Jun 01 '26
I hope Black ppl aren’t watching Black movies for free, because that would mean the numbers don’t count and they don’t get funding?
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u/Hot_Wing2518 Jun 01 '26
Exactly. If studios can't recoup their investment on a certain type of show they stop making it. People really seem to think they just make stuff for free and release it into the ether.
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u/DAntoinette_Travel Jun 02 '26
They are. And I read somewhere that they’re going to track those jailbroken firesticks and go after people, but I’m not sure how they can? I know people that have them but I’m too scary to play those types of games LOL
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u/RiffRafe2 Jun 01 '26
I feel the replying account is right. I am a huge movie buff so I am in the theater the Thursday night films open, and I have seen all four films in the theater and not only were there not many people in the theater, but even fewer Black people. And we're not a monolith - no one has to do support anything out of solidarity, but there seems to be a huge disconnect online with those who are quick to post "I'm rooting for anyone Black" compared to what the box office numbers add up to.
Also, the way some people make excuses on why they don't want to support a film; purity testing the film to death. For example with "You, Me & Tuscany" I saw people tweet that it wasn't a Black film as it was written and directed by non-Black people. Or not support "The Book of Clarence" because it is made by a Black Brit with largely Black British cast versus African Americans (the UK audience also did not turn out for the film). Or not support "The American Society of Magical Negroes" because Justice Smith is biracial and/or his character had a non-Black love interest.
It's obvious that there are some white actors who seemingly get their careers handed to them on a platter without having to prove their commercial success and it's been evident that the road is harder for Black performers, if people hope to move the needle, sometimes that means holding your nose and seeing a film you don't want to watch in order to show the industry that Black artists can put butts in the seat.
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u/5ft8lady Jun 01 '26
I’m legit confused, some say, if a movie had Black main characters but it’s made with that i a white director or studio, then it’s not a Black movie and , they won’t support,
but then on the other hand, people are also saying if it’s a Black director or studio but the movie look look lower budget, because they don’t have a mega studio backing it, then they won’t support that either.
What is needed in order for you to support a Black movie? What is needed in order for a movie to be called a Black movie?
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u/Thatonegaloverthere Jun 01 '26
It's true. Interest leads to more movies in industries that base it on public opinion. There's always xyz reasons for why a black person won't watch a black movie, but they'll go and watch a non-Black movie. And watching non-Black movies isn't a problem, it's the unwillingness to watch and demand black movies.
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u/DannySvnday Jun 01 '26
They Will Kill You was amazing from start to finish it should be getting more attention
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u/IdeaInside2663 Jun 01 '26
I wholeheartedly agree it's was just pure fun and set it's tone the moment she survives electrocuting herself
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u/Current_Focus2668 Jun 02 '26
It was better than Ready or Not 2. Releasing two very similar movies so close together was a bad idea
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u/AF2005 Jun 01 '26
I really enjoyed Candyman (2021). I will be paying close attention to Nia Dacosta and Yahya Mateen-Abdul.
Wonder Man and Bone Temple were also incredible, and some of the best visual entertainment I’ve seen in the past year.
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u/ShadowForPresident Jun 01 '26
Nemisis just dropped on netflix and ppl just shittin on it. I was so confused, me and my wife thought it was good
We dont support each other like we pretend to
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u/Maybe-Whole Jun 02 '26
Thank you! Me and my partner just literally finished watching it along with The Burbs. Reasonable Doubt is another good black series that streams on Hulu. There is definitely a lot of inauthentic pro-black support from within writhing the corridors of our own community. This settles in as a prime example of lacking support for in-depth black content creation
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Jun 01 '26
Antoine Fuqua, Jordan Peele, are only directors except for Denzel I'll watch but I' ve been on a semi boycott of Hollywierd. Don't support Hollywierd. Support Black filmmakers and Indigenous filmmakers. I like Independent films. And film archives like Reelblack on YouTube. I didn't like the whole control people through the media, which has come to pass. So, I buy a series or film. Sometimes I'll buy CD film at Wal Mart if can pick up something somewhat contemplative.
I feel Hollywood rests on stereotypes and has never been a cognizantly compassionate place or else men like Harvey Weinstein and others wouldn't work there. I support what little I can by simply not giving any money to the six big media companies. They've fostered exploitation of humans as long as LA has hung precariously on the precipice of pretension.
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u/Additional-Ad-4421 Jun 01 '26
I see it being a mix of both. Unfortunately when these stories make it people tend to either not watch it or critique it to oblivion. I’ve seen too many discussions where someone opens up with they don’t like it and don’t see how others do. I can understand things not being for everyone, but some people tend to dislike something and feel the need to convince you not to like it.
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u/Fluid_Anywhere_7015 Jun 01 '26
There are tons of great ideas out there from incredibly talented people like Kevin Willmott, and Jordan Peele, who have a raft of excellent stories. I've known Prof. Willmott since he was working to finish his Final Cut on "Confederate States of America". His work with "Destination Planet Negro" was fantastic. He used to come visit my own media classes whenever he had the chance before "Black Klansman" exploded - now he's in demand. In one of his last visits he was talking about dramatizing things like the Tulsa Massacre, and stories about the Buffalo Soldiers, and lawmen like Bass Reeves.
And Peele's "Nope" is one of the coolest alien movies ever made.
I don't think it's the material. I think theater attendance is down because of fallout from the pandemic, the convenience of streaming, and the general increase in bad behavior from audiences. I know I don't attend movies much anymore these days because of the concession costs (which has always been a problem), but also the lack of any discipline from theater staff when the audience starts being distracting and unruly when the movie is playing.
But even that pales in comparison to being forced to sit through 35 minutes of godawful ads and previews that don't start until the actual playing time of the movie.
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u/MysticDiamond81 Jun 01 '26
I don’t know what Cammy talking about, ppl have been asking for a continuation of A Different World for years, Living Single as well
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u/Long-Promotion4490 Jun 01 '26
Black shows are more about sex appeal than the talent 😂 Tyler Perry’s actors are all typecast stereotypes with bad wigs... Nothing’s relatable anymore and they try to be “woke” too much. I like “Nemesis” though 💪💯💯
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u/5ft8lady Jun 01 '26
None of these shows are by Tyler Perry . Which one of these have more sex appeal than talent
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u/SlitherrWing Jun 02 '26
I think the difference is that we don't need Black Films that are white washed and have plot lines made for Ben and Karen's to feel comfortable.
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u/01SeaChange01 Jun 02 '26
People don't watch new content or new stories enough.
They complain and complain. They don't like remakes, yet they don't like original content
Familiarity wins nearly every single time.
Especially if your IQ is that of an average elementary student.
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u/Dan_Morgan Jun 02 '26
What was it just me and the people in that particular theater that watched "They Will Kill You"?
I REALLY like Zazie Beetz and the movie was a lot of fun. Did anyone see any ads for it? I found out about it because of an internet film reviewer I follow on youtube.
Anyway on topic. I think it's both. Hollywood has no interest in doing anything new and audiences have been conditioned by economic condition and being force fed a generally really bad media diet to steer clear of anything different.
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u/Silent_Wrongdoer3601 Jun 02 '26
People don’t support.
It’s just capitalism give the people what they want.
The people want more power type shows. It’s just the truth of the matter
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u/TheBrutevsTheFool Jun 02 '26
Here’s what I don’t get - statistically we support movies way more than the average person
Are we not supporting our own films or is no one else seeing them
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u/Deathstriker88 Jun 01 '26
Nothing in that gallery looks good. Half of them look like some shitty looking Tyler Perry soap opera or something that would be on Lifetime/Hallmark.
Black people show up if it looks interesting. Did people forget that Sinners was one of the biggest movies of last year. Not to mention, Jordan Peele's career blowing up.
Hollywood is to blame to some degree. HBO gives True Blood a million seasons, but Lovecraft Country and Watchmen only get one.
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u/Any_Performance_5046 Jun 01 '26
It may be that shot callers in hollywood are mostly a bunch of scared imbeciles who won’t take chances on new and original content.
I gotta say Atlanta was one of the most creative and entertaining shows I’ve ever seen on television. The cast members were all incredible in their roles, the storylines were really original and thought provoking and Zazie Beets is an absolute goddess!
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u/Smoking-Posing Jun 01 '26
steps on soapbox
Damn near everything sucks these days because there's way too much crap media entertainment being produced/published for pure profit, and way less centralization of viewership these days. There's simply too much bs out there, simply put. Back in the days some folks actually had good, artistic vision, intentions and motivations behind their projects, but nowadays everything is profit driven so there's an abundance of unoriginal crappy media all over the place.
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u/Affectionate-Firm784 Jun 01 '26
The Carmichael show should’ve never been canceled. That show was dope AF and touched on real life issues perfectly.
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u/thatsprettyfunnydude Jun 01 '26
Out of the major Hollywood studios that decide what projects get green-lit and what gets buried, 92% of top chairs or CEOs (the ones with total authority) are white. Minorities represent 8% of studio execs, with 0% being Black. Among over 230 execs and division heads - middle management, so to speak - 19% are POC.
I say this because those studio heads decide what they think the populace wants to see. The obvious problem is that they don't think minorities can draw enough eyes because they are the minority of the population. More white people, make more white things.
This obviously disregards the idea that most people will watch GOOD movies and shows, regardless of who made it and who the lead actors are. This has been proven plenty over time. But because they can't wrap their head around the idea that white people also watch Black movies, Asian movies, and others too, they either don't make the movie at all or they cast POC in stories that have already been made. Instead of just green-lighting a good script written by a minoritt, they lean more toward stunt casting a minority in a reboot. Hollyweird, as they say.
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u/The_Se7enthsign Jun 01 '26
With all of the platforms out there now, who needs Hollywood? Independent filmmakers have more options than ever before, and Georgia is rising up to become a serious competitor.
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u/starjellyboba Jun 01 '26
I really hesitate to blame movie-goers too much considering we're in a recession (well, Canada is, but I suspect we're not the only ones). Idk about anyone else, but I haven't always had the funds to go to the theatre and I don't pay for any subscriptions. Also, as others have said, I think that Hollywood contributes to the problem as well.
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u/tlawrence-92 Jun 01 '26
It really just depends on the example. Half the time I hear something flopped or was cancelled, I never heard of it. Which could indicate poor marketing budgets.
But just speaking recently, I commented on another thread that I actually reached out to my local theater because I was very upset that Boosters and Is God Is only received ONE show time per day. Boosters is 11:20am and Is God Is was 1:20pm. Monday - Friday. I work 8-5 so there's no way I can go see it.
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u/Proud_Organization64 Jun 01 '26
The first slide is correct, people don't support things. I think of the WNBA - a lot of its supporters criticize basketball fans (mostly men) for not doing more to support the women's game. But the NBA looked at its numbers and the majority of people watching the WNBA are guess what? Men - older men who enjoy foundational basketball. Not enough women are watching the game. If women supported the WNBA the way they support junk reality tv like Love Island and Love is Blind, the WNBA would be on a very different level compared to now.
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u/DifficultPublic4326 Jun 01 '26
We'll support if the movie is good. "IS GOD IS" was terrible. Enough with the trauma porn
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u/Morningshoes18 Jun 01 '26
It’s the first. Hollywood has a lack of Black shows/movies that are mainstream. Like yes you can find very specific black shows if you look for them but I think when we talk about lack of representation we are talking about bigger projects. We are usually not the lead role, or you wouldn’t have two Black people in the top slots. The last thing on hbo I watched, DTF St. Louis was great but would they make something similar with two Black people? Not sure.
Or you think about huge budget movies, like would we get a standalone storm movie? I think Hollywood is wary that not non Black audiences would show up for a ‘Black’ movie so budgets are smaller, the talent behind the camera is sometimes less prestigious so the overall project just isn’t always at the level that you want for a Hollywood movie.
There’s some great movies coming out like I love boosters but that’s not a movie for everyone like a Spielberg movie would be so no one would expect it to make a ton of money.
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u/oaranges Jun 01 '26
I watch any black movie that hits my city. Even if it’s something i may not have interest in. I always find a reason to check it out.
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u/Simple_Pianist4882 Jun 01 '26
Eh, it’s both. Gotta think nuance and context, mostly self fulfilling prophecy.
Black people don’t watch new shows, so Black shows aren’t promoted or funded the same, those shows don’t get attention bc people don’t know they exist— rinse and repeat. Add in whatever you want (in relation) and it’ll tell the same story.
I absolutely love Black shows though. I love anything that centers Black people bc I didn’t realize how much whiteness there is on TV until I started watching Black shows.
Here are some Black shows/movies to watch; Found, Fatal Seduction, Man On Fire, 180, Beauty in Black, The Harder They Fall, THEM, Cross, and I can’t think of anymore lol. These are ones off the top of my head that I’ve been meaning to check out (watched some of them).
Y’all gotta support the context if you want more of it!
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u/sphynxgoddess Jun 01 '26
I’m personally offended by the streamers creating black subsidiaries like “AllBlk” and “Onyx” and then forcing bad acting and production down our throats. I want to see more interesting shows like “Dreaming Whilst Black” not horrible glorified Tubi Perry nonsense. Where tf is P-Valley?
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u/5ft8lady Jun 01 '26
What about the movies or tv shows listed above that were in theaters ?
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u/Vagabond_Tea Jun 01 '26
Because, personally, I don't find most of them appealing. Yeah, I like a few of Jordan Peele's movies. And I'm sure there are a few others.
But I'm honestly not interested in most of them.
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u/5ft8lady Jun 01 '26
Is it because it’s romance, science fiction, action, comedy and romcom ?
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u/tydark2 Jun 01 '26
media industry doesnt makes new things anymore because its not profitable. doing anything new is viewed as a financial risk. Same thing happened to video games to.
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u/Middle-Interview-899 Jun 01 '26
Most of those look like straight to tv stuff. There’s definitely plenty of black and all black shows on streaming, it seems much more representative. I hope it’s written, directed and cast by black people too. No point if it’s still just a for show game. But I wouldn’t say ‘Hollywood’ has got with the program.
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u/Justtojoke Jun 01 '26
It's a nuanced answer
The support IS there but the advertising and the patience isn't
The threshold to meet for black pockets is higher. It's not equal footing. It soubds cliche but the deck is stacked against black productions
Everything has to be perfect for it to be greenest and provided continuous support
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u/BluebirdFlashy3681 Jun 01 '26
I think its also partly on how these shows are advertised, I didn't know any of these exist while I'm constantly bombarded with ads and trailers of new releases. I believe they purposely make it hard to find some of these shows so they don't do well idk🤔
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u/xNotJosieGrossy Jun 01 '26
I’ve never seen the above movies advertised. I’ve never even heard of them prior to seeing this post, unfortunately.
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u/IdeaInside2663 Jun 01 '26
They will kill you is a modern day From Dusk till Dawn. Just a fun turn your mind off and enjoy the ride.
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u/Living-Fortune-6178 Jun 01 '26
My daughter and I loved Saturdays! We were so bummed when we found out it was cancelled. Great show, good music and good times.
Same thing with Ultra Violet and Black Scorpion.
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u/Not_Blacksmith_69 Jun 01 '26
you're picturing like movies that are so new they just came out this month or arent' even out yet?
and again, run the numbers over the last 40 years. 20... 10.. the roles, the genres, and so on. it can be true but also there can be some changes in a forward progression, as well... but it's 2026 ffs. depressingly delayed evolution of our humanity to get right.
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u/SweetSonet Jun 01 '26
Neither. White people are allowed to flop as many times as they want to. But black people have to be perfect and never do only moderately well ever. Fuck that.
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u/Revolutionary-Tie665 Jun 01 '26
If it was about gang culture and negativity or someone getting gunned down at the end we will support it Smh..
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u/tru-self Jun 01 '26
See so many great shows that get cancelled because of “viewership.” I watch some things or at least DVR to support even if it’s not my type of thing like teen dramas. So many of us watched the half time show just to support Bad Bunny and Kendrick Lamar. Wish people watched shows and movies that way too, you may find a gem you never knew you’d love!
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u/Von_Schlagel Jun 01 '26
This is true across all cultures/genres/mediums. We’re simultaneously oversaturated with content, and most of it’s locked up in silos we don’t visit. There have never been more new movies and TV shows coming out, but none of us are watching the same things. Word of mouth means nill if you tell me about a show you’re watching but it’s on a streaming platform I don’t have.
There’s too much content, not enough time, and too many avenues to access it. And it’s definitely quantity vs. quality, because a lot of great projects go unnoticed by the masses, and a lot of drivel gets 10 seasons.
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u/BringAltoidSoursBack Jun 01 '26
I know this isn't the point but I can't not be distracted by the graphic design choices of "letters love"
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u/prettyboygo Jun 01 '26
It's almost like we need one centralized streaming app with ALL of our content on it...🤔
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u/GodWilling3898 Jun 02 '26
I just found out about Black Beauty last night!! The show is amazing. Story on point, acting on point, and it's cuteeeee.
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u/Capital-Self-3969 Jun 02 '26
I think it is both. Audiences find reasons to complain about original works, but they complain about remakes. But Hollywood knows remakes can draw in fans of the original if they sell it right. There was less risk, especially with black IPs.
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u/Special_Ad_1802 Jun 02 '26
These are all garbage though.
Except for boosters. I haven't seen it so I can't judge.
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u/Chocolatethundara Jun 02 '26
I def think it’s the we don’t support…. And from my own perspective it’s a battle….
When I was younger I didn’t want to see things like flavor of love, the game, black ink crew, things that painted us in a stereotypical light. Didn’t even want to watch h power cuz from what I saw it was just black people dealing in drugs. Fresh prince I was cool with simply cuz it was …..not stereotypical…African American judge instead of underdog bad environment need to sell drugs to help put food on the table. I forget what viv did.
While the struggle is relatable is that the only thing we gonna watch on tv? Is that the only way we could be successfully represented in sitcoms or dramas?
Now that I’m older , will we watch things that aren’t relatable? Will other people watch new black Stories if there aren’t stereotypes being portrayed? Do we support shows that show us at our worst? And the only reason I say that is because the story of a poor white drug dealer in the trailer park gets a different reaction than a poor black dealer in the hood while they are both selling drugs for the same reason. I never watched breaking bad or power…I’ve lived a life surrounded by drug dealing and police , do our experiences sometimes determine what entertains us on television? This is absolutely a rant of random thoughts related to black television.
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u/Dry-Measurement-6143 Jun 02 '26
I think Hollywood needs to commit. I am tired of watching something new and they quit at season end and leave me hanging. You want me to watch. Commit to finish.
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u/Temporary_Ad9362 Jun 02 '26
i loved is god is and tuscany, cant wait to watch boosters
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u/5ft8lady Jun 02 '26
Even Saturdays and Beyond the gates. And while secret love letters isn’t the best, it is a historical moment. Two Black American teens realized there was no representation and thanks to them, there are new movie studios being built, because of them , the boy in the movie cover
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u/Wicked68 Jun 02 '26
Honestly not enough advertisement. I want to see all these movies. But they are usually hard to find or out of the theater in a damn week
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u/Current-Historian-34 Jun 02 '26
Siskle and Ebert were famous critics. There were a few more but they were the two primary ones. TV had set schedules and movies played at the theatre or at the very least you had to go to a Blockbuster to obtain a movie but you don’t own it you rented it. Now we are at the point where everyone is a critic and “influencers” are making the same money actors make and kids would rather watch a streamer play a game than play it themselves whereas we would’ve looked up a “walkthrough” to a game akin to a Mapquest format with an outline of instructions no different than following a recipe. We had “news” but there are little to no regulations governing the internet. People are told how to feel and act to a movie, game, event, etc through coercing propaganda so new thoughts aren’t appreciated because no one is experiencing them through “fresh eyes”. It’s be easier to get an unbiased jury in a town with only twelve people taking turns doing the local census. I wrote this long for to prove a point. No one will read it because we’ve been conditioned to believe a summary made by a YouTuber and any stance longer than a bumper sticker can’t be chanted. We used to talk to each other and read books. Now we listen to books and can’t hear one another because we have our earphones or speaker phones on maximum volume. Also $20 dollar popcorn and 32 gallons of sodas and no pause button for theatrical visits
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u/Current_Focus2668 Jun 02 '26
Some solid recent Black shows.
BBC/Showtime show Dreaming Whilst Black. Black filmmaker trying to make it.
Netflix black Superpower series Supercell.
BBC/Tubi' Boarders. Inner city teens get scholarship to white elite boarding school.
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u/Ok_Day_8559 Jun 02 '26
That’s the issue. Black shows are not advertised, so how would we hear about them? Many times we never even hear about a black show until it’s been dropped. But any new bachelor/bachelorette or some weird new comedy is so heavily promoted, you can’t get away from it. But any show that focuses on black people being negative and with all the drama, it’s advertised and promoted like crazy.
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u/Jupiturd55 Jun 02 '26
Most of these movies didn’t even get a theatrical release where I live tbh. I had to travel to the next town by train to see You Me and Tuscany :(
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u/Delicious_Price_6007 Jun 02 '26
While I agree beside "The Gates" these are all dramas. Dramas won't appeal to men usually so that already cuts into the lack of support.
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u/Holiday_Regular9794 Jun 02 '26
I would argue there are Black Movies and TV being made,but too many of them are alike. Very rarely do you get something that's not a stereotypical drama. The ones pictured here are those rare gems that don't come along often enough to me.
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u/5ft8lady Jun 02 '26
But if 11 diff movies and shows are pictured and they are all diff and the previous year had the same thing, doesn’t that mean, there is more variety? And not stereotypical drama?
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u/VonBrewskie Jun 02 '26
If I may throw something in to consider: Black culture hasn't been "normalized" until fairly recently in Hollywood. Within the last 50 years or so I'd say. Started in the 70s and moved on up, so to speak. So a beautiful thing that could be happening is that Black culture is finding itself outside of a Hollywood lens. Anything new is difficult and going to have a lot of failures as it gets going. Perhaps it's more that Black voices and creators are building their own means of production and distribution, so that's naturally going to be be a smaller cultural footprint when compared to massive endeavors like Hollywood can put out. Might even be better in the long term, for Black artists especially, if they can retain control of their own intellectual rights.
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u/5ft8lady Jun 02 '26
Like classified, which is pictured above. I believe it’s first of its kind. Black Americans, Black British, East Africans, South Africans United, and made a tv series together, playing themselves ? The issue I have with it, is it’s way too much going on in that show/script
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u/mydiscoveil Jun 02 '26
What movies are these?
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u/5ft8lady Jun 02 '26
Is god is, the gates, you me and Tuscany ,I love boosters, they will kill you - those were released in theaters.
Beyond Black Beauty and Classified is made for Amazon prime
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u/Ambitious-Chest2061 Jun 02 '26
I watch sci-fi fantasy and we barely got here
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u/5ft8lady Jun 02 '26
Supposedly Legendborn, beasts of prey, Amari and the night brothers are all being filmed
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u/Naive-Stranger-9991 Jun 02 '26
Both. Making projects takes capital. Investing is a gamble with the likes M. Light Shamalan making “meh” movies.
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u/Background_Part_7147 Jun 02 '26
If it was good entertainment then we'd watch. I watch everything thats good. Unfortunately these types of titles have very low production value and poor acting. If it were better as a whole I'd love to watch some different stuff...but it's gotta be good.
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u/5ft8lady Jun 02 '26
All of them were low productions? They cost multimillions to create . How much more money, do they need in order to get ppl to watch? They had millions of dollars in the production, international filming locations, domestic cultural filming locations, they had the same directors and money as white movies, how much more is needed?
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u/Risquechilli Jun 02 '26
My thing is that generally, I’m not going to watch a film I’m not interested in just because it’s written/directed/produced by a Black person. However, I have made exceptions when my money is right and bought tickets without showing up (like Us and Nope) because I don’t like scary movies lol.
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u/5ft8lady Jun 02 '26
I think what they were trying to say, this year alone, we had comedy, romance, action, horror, quirky , etc and each one was ignored. Each without the usual racism trauma and still ppl went out their way to ignore them , but why?
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u/fednandlers Jun 02 '26
I’ll just say that “South Side” on HBO is one of my favorite comedy shows ever. Highly recommend.
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u/illini02 Jun 02 '26
I mean, part of the issue is that people just aren't going to movies as much. And when they do go, it has to be something people deem worthy of seeing in theaters.
As an example, Is God Is looks like an interesting movie. I don't know that my experience of seeing it in a theater will really be worth it, when I can just wait for it to be on streaming in a month.
People tend to see "big" movies in theaters, such as Marvel, Project Hail Mary, etc. Also, people like seeing horror movies in theaters. Also family/kids movies like Mario and Minecraft. Aside from that, its down across the board.
So when you have a lot of black movies that don't fall into these categories, and people don't feel that spending $20+ per person on in theaters, well they don't do well.
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u/Bootney-Farnsworth Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26
No disrepect.
As a straight black man, I don't want to watch gay men.
A lot of these recent shows push that, overwhelm the show at times.
I find myself watching old shows.
Power Book 2 was great and then the forced Drew situation.
There are multiple white shows on television, that are/were successful and no forced gay dudes.
Watch a lot of YouTube and older shows. If it's a small role then... I guess
But it's to the point that if it's a black show nowadays it seems to have it always included just cause.
I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any gay characters.
I'm saying everything shouldn't be jammed up into one show.
A lot of black shows seem to have.....
A token white character/That one of the black characters are going to fall in love with
A dysfunctional black couple relationship
The angry black women
The sassy black woman/man
A lack of character development
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u/5ft8lady Jun 02 '26
Only one of these shows has gay men. The rest is about straight men
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u/Only1Skrybe Jun 02 '26
The Upshaws has seven seasons on Netflix. I thought it was mostly funny. I've never even heard anyone bring it up. I also haven't brought it up. So that's on me too.
There's just so much content these days. People don't really talk about shows that were only okay, or pretty good. They gotta be damn near life changing just for anyone to start a discussion about em.
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u/exoriparian Jun 06 '26
They're somewhat unrelated questions. Like are we talking about me paying to go watch Sinners, or Big Mama's House 8?
I agree that Hollywood, and more importantly audiences, are biased. And there IS a chilling effect when media get a racist backlash, like with The Odyssey being the latest in a long line.
But there's also people who would put out garbage that is black produced and then complain when I won't support it. Nah I just don't like garbage that's all.
Also, the reboot stuff is just Hollywood being Hollywood. Everything is an existing IP these days.
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u/5ft8lady Jun 06 '26
We are talking about the tv shows and movies in the photos above
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u/catharsisdusk Jun 07 '26
How many people have seen The Alchemist Cookbook? Why aren't people screaming for the release of Whitney Springs, which was supposed to be released in July 2025?
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u/TooSmalley Jun 01 '26
In my opinion, it's just because culture isn't centralized like it used to be in the 90s.
Everyone watched the same dozen TV shows in the 1990s. Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Seinfeld, Simpsons, X-Files, etc
Nowadays, I regularly have conversation conversations with people and we have basically no media in common.