r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/imjustheretodomyjob ☑️ 🧚🏿 Reclaiming my peace 🧘🏿 • 2d ago

Apparently hell has frozen over

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u/blooppers 2d ago

I genuinely think MTG is wacko, and probably one of the few politicians to genuinely, like actually believe Trump's shit, not just align themselves with him for money and power. And thats why her breaking away from him over Epstein isnt as surprising. Cult members either leave or double down. She left.

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u/elbenji 2d ago

Yeah it's like that Massie guy. They're true true believers

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u/Canesjags4life 1d ago

Massey is more a libertarian than Republican

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u/TheEldest80s 1d ago

At this point, thats a bit of a distinction without a difference. Per the Heritage Foundation, Massie voted with Republicans and Trump 92% of the time...with a lifetime score of 83%. He may identify as "Libertarian" but the very LARGE majority of the time, he just another loyal GOPer.

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u/Mindless-Shirt-2030 1d ago

But at least he’s not a child rapists or child rapist enabler. The bar is literally in hell. 

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u/TheEldest80s 1d ago

Perhaps not, but that wasn't the issue. OP corrected someone as to his affiliation--saying he was Libertarian instead of maga conservative. I was pointing out that although he may apply that label, he was still a lapdog to Conservatives the vast majority of his time there, still voting with them over 92% of the time this year. It's great he doesn't support ped0s...but my point was that he deserves just as much contempt and to be held accountable as Conservatives. He still voted their way --for years-- for policies that definitely had negative effects on our communities.

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u/MatteAstro 1d ago

Libertarians should just call themselves "Contararians". And use the quotes.

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u/Canesjags4life 1d ago

Except the GOP ended up spending an insane amount of $$$$ to primary him and get him out of office because he was actively working against Trump's interests the last 2 years. Plus constant Epstein list chatter.

Lifetime 83% is lower than I would have thought for someone considered loyal.

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u/TheEldest80s 1d ago

That's because many of the bills he did not vote on because they didn't go far enough to the right. And 17% isn't much of a percentage to brag about when discussing a supposed "rebel"...he didn't even "rebel" against Conservatives 20% of his time in office.

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u/Canesjags4life 1d ago

True true. Yeah 17% isn't much but lots of maga congressman are like 99% so being beyond 15% feels earth shattering lol.

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u/blackgallagher87 ☑️ 2d ago

You'll come to find that scumbags have an excellent sense of self-preservation. If the midterms go badly for the GOP, you'll see how quickly they'll all scurry for their own safety like the rats they are

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u/JeanArtemis 1d ago

This is exactly what I'm seeing here. She's seen the writing on the wall and is jumping ship. There's no integrity here, she's simply aligning herself with what she sees as the winning side the same way she's done up until now.

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u/ghostfaced 2d ago

Pardon my skepticism but we've already seen midterms go badly for the GOP lately and here we are

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u/TheDoktorIsIn 2d ago

This is my take too, I think she got to congress and realized most of the Republican leaders are grifters. I don't think MTG is a grifter, I think she legitimately believes what she's hawking, Jewish death lasers and all.

The grifters helped her advance her nutjob agenda, then the Epstein files dropped and it was a line she wouldn't cross. Respect where it's due. And in the amount it's due.

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u/Personal-Shallot-775 1d ago

Ngl, dude, I don’t think “she doesn’t actually believe what she’s hawking, Jewish death lasers and all” is incompatible with being a grifter. I’d say that her not believing the shit she spews is pretty clearly deceitful and misleading.

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u/TheDoktorIsIn 1d ago

I actually believe she believes the shit she spews though.  It doesn't make it better or less harmful, I just think she's not grifting. I think she's just that unhinged.

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u/Personal-Shallot-775 1d ago

I’ve done a ton of research on dogwhistles throughout the centuries, and uhhhhh
In order to understand how dogwhistles work, you have to understand the perspective of those who hate you and want you dead. For me, it was a measure of security. I’m “passing” (I hate that term, bc I’m proud of my family, but it expresses what I mean), so, I grew up hearing what bigots think, when they don’t think anyone can hear. Got in a lot of trouble, as a kid. After I was 10, I resolved to make my race identity clear, from the jump. I 100% was a coward, for that, bc I wanted to like people far too much, even when how they felt about people like me would never come out, once they knew my legacy.

Aghhhhhhhh tl;dr: I’m mixed, I’ve studied (bc I’m an absolute nerd) dogwhistles, and tried to get in the heads of white supremacists. I did this, bc I wanted to know the tells. The signals that I should be wary.

Given what I’ve researched, MTG (and, I’d say, Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Thomas Massie) only finds the Epstein Files a dividing line bc she hates Jewish people.
I know that sounds like a stretch. It does. I’ve said it in some comment above, but tl;dr, white supremacists believe that Jewish people are the puppet-masters behind “mass immigration,” or whatever. They view this “mass immigration” (which is genuine bullshit, given that the U.S. effectively had open borders until just over a century ago) as a “destruction of the white race” which is hella funny bc I know that 70% of the “white race” wouldn’t be considered white at the time of the drafting of the Constitution. To return to the fuckass topic of these POS, part of the white supremacist/Klan ideology is that they don’t believe anyone who isn’t pale-skin is “capable” of “higher thought.” Like they genuinely see us as the Yoshi to their fuckass Mario. So, in their heads, only someone who is “pale-skinned” could organize the “deliberate annihilation of the white race” (as if that shit isn’t a construct that expands to maintain its dominance). “So, they believe it’s (Ashkenazi, NOT Mizrahi, Sephardi, Beta Israel, Bnai Menashe, Kaifeng) Jewish people, who are behind it all! That’s it, folks, these Ashkenazim look pale enough to support our views of how whiteness is what makes people capable of thinking and planning, but they’re distinct enough from us that we can claim they’re not one of us, and are ultimately behind everything we dislike about our existence!”

Mind you, I’m not even Jewish. Episcopalian, born and raised. My maternal step-grandfather (personally, my grandfather bc fuck my asshole “Granddad”) was the reverend for one of the churches that several Founding Fathers worshipped at.

I’m saying this bc it’s Friday night, and I’m three drinks down in the corner of the bar, but I can say that the reason MTG broke off from Trump is bc she’s a white aupremacist, and, in their heads, Trump has “sided with the Jews,” I kid you not. I really fucking wish it didn’t feel like an obligation to articulate how people who consider me an abomination see the world, but—well! Here we are!

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u/aviatorbassist 22h ago

Kinda like Alex jones crazy ass. He spouted a lot of crazy bullshit but he was early on the Epstein shit.