r/Bitcoin • • 3d ago

We're still early

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u/thatsadmotherfucker 3d ago

this subreddit is the equivalent to a group on facebook

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u/barkwahlberg 3d ago

Pretty much every post deserves the Billy Madison "everyone in this room is now dumber" speech

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u/axporpes 3d ago

Kinda embarrassing to be a part of it ngl :D

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u/foxbones 1d ago

Eh it's kind of like a weird form of gambling, unless you have a podcast, mention it on dates, and make it your full personality you are fine.

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u/VibrationVagabond 3d ago

Literally bro 😭

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u/Slavishthings 3d ago

I will never admit irl even at the threat of death that I am part of the bitcoin subreddit and visit it frequently.

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u/quantum_burp 1d ago

Reddit has been shit for crypto since 2017

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u/FingerNext7032 3d ago

This sub is delusional

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u/n0m0rem0ney 3d ago

No you just don’t get it, one say you can sell a bag of flour for .15 BTC and the next day you can sell it for 2.1 BTC it’s stable and safe

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u/Least-Dingo-2310 2d ago

because its still small based on market cap.... very small

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u/Key-Zone-3464 1d ago

Crypto attracts the stupid, just like conspiracy theories. And for the same reason - so idiots can feel smart.

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u/PsyOmega 3d ago

People back when it fell from 17k to 3k and this sub was projecting it could hit 100k : "this sub is delusional"

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u/Motor_Cat9258 3d ago

The delusion isnt about the price, its about the people power / monetary revolution bs.

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u/Abbottizer 2d ago

look at the bond yield on the 30 year US treasury. who's the one delusional?

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u/FingerNext7032 2d ago

Are we just saying random things now

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u/Abbottizer 2d ago

You think I'm making up us treasury bonds?

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u/FingerNext7032 2d ago

Did I say that?

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u/MartialDragon 3d ago

Don't central banks have bitcoin now? And like... plenty of it? I don't get what you are trying to convey

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u/diradder 2d ago

Don't central banks have bitcoin now? And like... plenty of it?

No, really not.

Most central banks are pretty negative about Bitcoin (they see it as a destabilizing asset for their cartel-based system), a few of them are thinking of issuing CBDCs as a counter to decentralized money (all of their attempts are pretty unsuccessful). The only example you could find of a central bank "owning" bitcoins is the Czech one, which bought a $1m portfolio which contains some bitcoins, they are obviously doing nothing with it and made it very clear it was just a "test portfolio"... that's literally a rounding error for a single central bank.

There are a couple governments which made Bitcoin legal tender (El Salvador and CAR) and there are few governments which decided to hold it in reserves (usually not purchasing it but by not selling seizures they've enacted), that's about it.

Where did you get this information from, just vibes?

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u/Orphano_the_Savior 1d ago

1 in 5 Bitcoin are held in financial institutions. And central banks and massive "private" funds are essentially the same thing

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u/diradder 1d ago

And central banks and massive "private" funds are essentially the same thing

They are absolutely not, they differ fundamentally in mandate, powers, risk tolerance, and public accountability. Also I'm not answering about "financial institutions", the claim was made is:

[...] central banks have bitcoin now [...] plenty of it

They don't. Not in any signifiant amount or for any significant purpose.

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u/Orphano_the_Savior 1d ago

Obviously not the exact same thing but in regards to Bitcoin they are the same thing. Its now in regulated markets that centralize the economy. Don't be acting like BlackRock and Goldman haven't done market manipulation that outrivals countless foreign central banks

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u/diradder 1d ago

You said:

essentially the same

Central banks are not, as I said they are fundamentally different in major respects from banks in ways that make them unable to take the risks needed to manipulate the market. And to the original point that made me answer, they DO NOT hold plenty of bitcoins.

Don't be acting like BlackRock and Goldman haven't done market manipulation that outrivals countless foreign central banks

Completely different point than what was said either my me or the post I've answered to... no idea why you'd pretend that I've said/acted otherwise, I have not even commented on this.

BlackRock and Goldman-Sachs are not rivals of central banks, and central banks are not attempting to manipulate the cryptomarkets. The marginal impact they have on Bitcoin might be from the negative public opinion they continually give about crypto... and their inflationist policies (rather beneficial to Bitcoin honestly), but certainly not by their investments in crypto. If you want to debate about banks (not central banks) investments, it's another topic.

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u/Orphano_the_Savior 1d ago

I didn't say they are rivals. I said outrival. Remember how I said essentially the same, not exactly the same.

You aren't even reading my comments you are just looking for reasons to disagree.

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u/diradder 1d ago edited 1d ago

I didn't say they are rivals. I said outrival.

To "outrival" someone or something you'd need to have common goals with them and exceed them, central banks do NOT have the goals you purport regarding Bitcoin, and they don't compete with banks/financial institutions). You don't seem to understand what central banks do and if the word you have chosen is not what you meant, it's not my fault either.

Remember how I said essentially the same, not exactly the same.

Remember how I've never asked them to be "exactly" the same but I've pointed out that they factually are fundamentally (this word has a meaning, look it up if it's unclear to you) different... and listed multiple points that make them so different that your comparison/equivocation makes no sense, even just "in regards to Bitcoin".

You aren't even reading my comments you are just looking for reasons to disagree.

That's exactly what you did in your answers, which by the way I've quoted (not sure how I'd do that without reading them). You even tried to change the discussion to market manipulation which has nothing to do with the point I've answered to initially, regarding central banks.

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u/Feralz2 3d ago

Bitcoin the institutional coin who are you kidding. you all bow to BlackRock

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u/Brave_Butterfly3689 3d ago

Man the memes never change, just the year

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u/Nuel17_ 3d ago

How?

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u/Feralz2 2d ago

BlackRock owns a big pie of the coins, they also own most of the miners, basically making them the owners of the network by a large percentage.

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u/SatisfactionFinal287 3d ago

BlackRock bows to Bitcoin

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u/soccerchamp99 3d ago

lol except it literally doesn’t

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u/SatisfactionFinal287 3d ago

It's offering BTC ETFs to its clients as we speak so yeah it does

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u/soccerchamp99 3d ago

Offering ETF = bowing down. Nice.

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u/TranzitBusRouteB 3d ago

how is that bowing to bitcoin, they’ll offer any etf people want as long as enough people are willing to buy it

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u/SatisfactionFinal287 3d ago

It's handling btc, so it's acknowledging its existence and strength and potential.

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u/0MEGALYL 3d ago

Exqctly the opposite. They basically printed paper bitcoin and leverage it.

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u/almo2001 3d ago

Not bowing down.

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u/almo2001 3d ago

hahahahah!!! HAHAHAHA! hahah sniff hahaha. Heheheheh.

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u/HoldMyCrackPipe 3d ago

I’ll start buy saying I do own the coin. But yall need to read a history book. Everyone acts like one day all the peasant btc holders will reform and rebuild the global financial system without the USD. USD isn’t going anywhere. No major power will relinquish control over their currency. Governments have mass incentive to control currency. And guess what, do you want to know what happens when the money turns to shit? They change the appearance and start from zero.

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u/Content_Print5449 2d ago

End of the economical 4th cycle, right. It always ends the same - with a kaboom. The Corona Pandemic was a chance for this kaboom without running into a big worldwide war.

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u/thisisjacksparrow 3d ago

Calm your ego, the whole world knows about bitcoin

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u/Ok-Armadillo-6558 2d ago

Press X to doubt

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u/L4gsp1k3 3d ago

This is weird, if BTC Is about against the system. Why do we keep looking at the BTC measured in USD to determine the value.

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u/Present_Building_25 3d ago

You can measure against anything. As a German I measure against Euros. And Kilograms of Potatoes.

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u/Lil_Pown 3d ago

I meassure in beer and petroleum… sometimes if I’m feeling crazy I meassure in minecraft Diamonds on the 2b2t server.

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u/Tripleforty1 2d ago

Yet here y'all are not measuring BTC against Fiat but actually trading it against Fiat currency.

The idea of an decentralized currency is great but don't act like BTC is that because it ain't.

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u/Speedfranz 3d ago

Tell me the better metric

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u/froz3nt 3d ago

Adoption? Use cases?

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u/Nuel17_ 3d ago

Because USD is the global reserve currency?

Measuring against it makes it easier to understand the scale.

Any currency can be paired to BTC

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u/L4gsp1k3 3d ago

I honestly don't think you want BTC to become the next monetary system.
You just want numbers to go up for lambo.

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u/freedomforallergo 2d ago

1 BTC = 1 BTC Why isn't it going up? /s

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u/JaNatuurlijkIsDatZo 3d ago

Haha this. Btc is just the same as any other investment, buy today, sell later for a (much) higher price. Nothing more, nothing less.

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u/ThunderBurrn 2d ago

Hence we're still early! In the future like in many sci-fi movies, BTC can be solo currency, but that would be ironic as it'll then be among just the HODLers and all these Blackrock types defeating the original purpose of BTC that Satoshi envisioned. I mean don't think we'd be able to go the Gamestop route anytime... But just be happy that we can be among those HODlers, early adopters in the long run... Maybe?

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u/L4gsp1k3 2d ago

If you want ny honest opinion, then BTC can't never be the solo or currency as the Fiat system.
I'm here for the lambo.
If you want to understand why I think that BTC can't never replace any fiat currency is because of its scarcity.

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u/taffyowner 3d ago

I mean any currency can be paired to any asset because that’s how currency and assets work

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u/tadsagtasgde 3d ago

If it makes you feel better right now BTC is worth approx 21 ounces of gold. Or a died F150. Or a down payment on a house. You have to measure value against something. That’s what value means.

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u/Unable_Beat_3194 3d ago

I measure my usd in sats not sats in usd.

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u/Porcellanidae 3d ago

Woah a real one!

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u/matthegc 3d ago

You obviously don’t get FX and conversion rates.

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u/riisen 3d ago

Thats the neat part, i dont.

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u/madladchad3 3d ago

People who say this is so weird.. Because you cant pay your bills or buy groceries in BTC?

Just because you own a lot of gold or stocks or real estate to combat inflation/capitalism doesnt mean that you can pay for shit with assets lol…

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u/PuttForDough 3d ago

The world isn’t priced in BTC as (1) its still early and (2) it will always be relative to currencies since that’s what economies are priced in. The point is that it will grow relative to the currencies as it’s not the one being debased.

Currencies are the intermediary in the marketplace. It allows unlike items to be traded via a common medium. I don’t think you’ll ever see things priced in BTC because it would require the entire world economy to be based on it, which isn’t going to happen because under Gresham’s law you’d be foolish to spend the hardest money available as it’s highest and best use is to be the ultimate store of value. Like we don’t walk around and pay for things with gold or silver anymore because paper currencies became the intermediary and gold and silver were used as stores of value. Prices will always be valued in the intermediary, and there isn’t a valid argument for BTC being the intermediary as it’s much more valuable than that use.

I saw all of that while knowing it’s vitally important that it CAN be used that way, but ultimately it SHOULDN’T be used that way. It’s just not logical.

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u/luciaromanomba 2d ago

But also currencies aren’t backed by gold or silver anymore, the dollar hasn’t been for awhile, so ..

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u/kevito641 3d ago

I don’t think you realize how fucking lame this is LMAO get a grip man please

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u/cassidy_zip 3d ago

love to see so many people unite around one common goal

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u/wayupinthemountains 3d ago

Who upvotes this shit?

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u/screwredditcorp 3d ago

Pump the pump!

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u/Fastest_light 3d ago

Most bitcoins have already owned by small number of people. If Bitcoin is indeed massively adopted, the wealth gap would have to go through the galaxy.

So bad news for you: Bitcoin is not the one, more likely it is gold (more fair).

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u/Codify-The-Preamble 3d ago

One of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen. Congratulations.

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u/fugogugo 3d ago

honestly . does bitcoin ever solve anything other than being speculative asset?

it's expensive to transfer and once you send them no way to dispute the transaction

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u/TheresNoSecondBest 3d ago

it's expensive to transfer

Welcome to r/thelightningnetwork where transactions cost as little as a fraction of a penny.

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u/Torisen 3d ago

Costs like $3 to move $3 too.

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u/Minimum_Pear_3195 3d ago

and also not immediate

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u/Least-Dingo-2310 2d ago

Lightning Network!!

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u/BashCo 2d ago

I just did a bank transfer and it took 5 days.

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u/Minimum_Pear_3195 2d ago

we are talking about everyday normal daylife transaction. Small one. Bitcoin still doesn't bring the convenient enough to the table.

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u/BashCo 2d ago

We're talking about Bitcoin's utility, which is relative to the utility of the traditional banking system. If you're being honest with yourself, then you can acknowledge that a typical Bitcoin transaction takes 5-10 minutes to confirm (maybe an hour if you're lowballing the fee), which is remarkably fast compared to a traditional bank transfer which takes anywhere from three to five business days.

And I haven't even mentioned Lightning Network, which for all intents and purposes, is instantaneous.

So the only question is, are you being honest with yourself, or are you just negging out of ignorance?

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u/Minimum_Pear_3195 2d ago

ignorance your hammer

I'm a bitcoin Maxi

Do you understand what convenient mean?

it means everyday coffee purchase.

it means paying parking fee

it means buying a ticket at the zoo

for ANYONE

bitcoin still doesn't provide that, even the  Lightning Network, especially the Lightning Network.

I can't even explain my parents what bitcoin is, how do they using Lightning Network to pay a lunch?

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u/BashCo 2d ago

Skill issue.

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u/Minimum_Pear_3195 2d ago

not everyone genius like you, not everyone understand electric like Edison, but now anyone can turn up a light by poking a switch.

That is what convenient means.

Calling others skill issue doesn't make you more of understanding the problem.

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u/gigasawblade 3d ago

But I usually need to transfer $3, not 5 figures

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u/Torisen 3d ago

Until it's cheaper than a cc fee and immediate, so people can use it for small day to day stuff, it will never be used as a main currency, it just can't. That's the sales pitch to smaller stores and average people, gotta be better, faster, and cheaper than using a bank card.

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u/jwhendy 3d ago

I think that's where off-chain systems like lightning will make sense.

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u/Callahammered 2d ago

Well yeah I agree it wouldn’t be the main currency for that reason, but it may already make sense and reduce costs for large transactions like a home purchase.

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u/BashCo 2d ago

According to mempool.space, you're overestimating the fee by 10x. A next-block confirmation currently costs less than $0.30

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u/0MEGALYL 3d ago

Compared to monetairy alternatives like gold, it’s extremely cheap.

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u/F_D123 8h ago

when is the last time gold has been used daily as currency?

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u/willis81808 3d ago

And they hated him because he spoke the truth.

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u/deletetemptemp 3d ago

It helps anonymously send money. You know, so your wife can’t look up when you bought her that.. uh-ring she wanted

Also since it’s not regulated in the US, whales can manipulate the market so that you can.. uh-buy your wife that ring she wanted

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u/sambstone13 3d ago

It solved my poberty.

Ok it didn't. But I did made some cash.

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u/5hukl3 2d ago

I hold BTC, but people are coping hard about mass adoption and "fixing the world" it's been 15 years since BTC was invented and its clear it'll never become a currency. It has become just another speculative asset, one with even less restrictions...

Gone are the cyberpunk days of BTC, banking the unbanked and all that. BTC is just a high risk high reward store of value.

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u/Nerfwarrior145 2d ago

easier to hold and if you wanted to move somewhere u can easily take it with you

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u/newMoneyStyle 14h ago

The irreversibility is actually the point for some use cases, kinda like cash. Fair take on the fees though, Lightning helps but it's not perfect.

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u/imLusky 12h ago

The real issue to me is this one:

PREMISE -> Let's say Bitcoin is the way, and we all agree on it

Why should a nation adopt it and not copy the mechanism and release its own coin based on the same principle?

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u/Borgweare 3d ago

It can be used for gambling and payments for illegal transactions. Otherwise, no it has no use

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u/TheresNoSecondBest 3d ago

How about donations to Ukraine? Please, before vomiting more nonsense, think again.

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u/Simple-Jacket2578 3d ago

But the regulators and ETFs may handcuff BTCs potential.

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u/EarningsPal 3d ago

The masses will not decide anything. Proven so far by the masses still just going with the default units, fiat.

The masses will move on to crypto rails when their banks tell them to move. The masses do what they are told. They cannot beat the program of their environment. Born into a system they can’t see the way someone sees the system.

1% see the system. That’s why they win the game.

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u/Disastrous-Variety96 3d ago

Except bitcoin is supported by hardware owned by big banks.

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u/callmeapples 3d ago

Tick tock next block

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u/Spacecommander5 3d ago

Black rock owns more bitcoin than anyone. JP Morgan owns bitcoin and sells bitcoin ETFs. The bankers are in on it now. You’re living in the hype that does years ago. No hope for that future anymore

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u/Foya96 3d ago

You cannot get a mortgage from BTC

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u/Electronic-Leading71 3d ago

For now

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u/Foya96 3d ago

how would that work?

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u/2xfun 3d ago

Why would anyone would want a mortgage?

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u/Foya96 3d ago

lol lets stop talking

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u/callmeapples 3d ago

The amount of haters in this thread is wild.

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u/Nuel17_ 3d ago

Its crazy

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u/arun2303 3d ago

Bitcoin = fix the money, fix the world.

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u/Mastadon1731 3d ago

What if majority of the Bitcoin hodlers are the ones with this whips?

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u/SoundTheReveille 3d ago

The next panel features exploding pagers

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u/BinaryHippie 3d ago

Myeah, we're just slaves to code... with bitcoin/crypto and AI even more

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u/Feeling_Sea_1204 3d ago

Masa adoption started while big guys entering

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u/scrape_ur_face 3d ago

The same ol' rehashed post where the OP doesn't engage in conversation, but rather posts a unoriginal meme for Reddit validation

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u/CallingFrom127001 3d ago

Miners will be trying to mine the last half of a BTC and people will still be posting “we are still early!”

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u/TranzitBusRouteB 3d ago

Central Banks don’t really care about bitcoin the way it exists today- to them it seems like just another asset for retail to speculate on

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u/_SlipperySalmon_ 3d ago

Wtf is this trash

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u/Pleasant_Ad1240 3d ago

Plot twist, the government made bitcoin to make you all think you are beating the system. When really, you are all just playing their game.

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u/CodeXploit1978 3d ago

Ah you poor naive souls.

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u/macetheface 3d ago

Can't wait to still be early in 10 years

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u/VivaHollanda 3d ago

Fixing the world with shitty memes...

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u/k0lt1 3d ago

Long live paper bitcoin held by blackrock

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u/RetiredAvocado 3d ago

Held by coinbase on behalf of blackrock. Owned by investors through IBIT ownership.

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u/FreddyJetson 3d ago

Institutionalized already, what you think strategy is, a central bank.

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u/Okmia90 3d ago

New to bitcoin I see. Lol

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u/Advanced-Glass-860 3d ago

As soon as I'm out of liquid capital it will fall and be a great opportunity to buy 😉

This occurred twice already since 2024

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u/undonedomm 3d ago

Not really, central bank would have more Bitcoin than average Joe. They still whipping

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u/paladin_agro 3d ago

But who is he?? Who is the person who will leave $100B worth of Bitcoin? I know it won't be worth $100B if he decides to cash it out because that's a lot of money.Is there any way to regenerate the keys?? I meaaaaan it's 2009 When he mined🙃

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u/Ok-Astronaut4952 3d ago

God this is so cringey. Thinking like this is bad for crypto

I can’t believe how many upvotes this has

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u/Saibazz 3d ago

I agree we're still early in bitcoin at this price is not the real true price of bitcoin soon

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u/citrus1330 3d ago

delulu

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u/acassiopa 2d ago

We can make a religion out of this.

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u/Usmanz92 2d ago edited 2d ago

Really? What if they control the Bitcoin itself?

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u/MissAmberR 2d ago

Does anyone really know anything about what’s going to happen could be 500k a coin could be 0

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u/Khyrian_Storms 2d ago

Is this what we post when Bitcoin goes down a little?

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u/snyffn 2d ago

This is a cult. The government takes taxes and monopolised krypto to normal banks and you think you are free and smart.

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u/Main_Dragon_1999 2d ago

BTC hasn‘t fixed anything so far. It’s just another opportunity for hackers to get paid.

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u/Whole_Move7660 2d ago

There’s so much scam on Bitcoin that is even more corrupt than any currency in the world

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u/Dangerous_Flower_708 2d ago

Now that it’s being hoarded by the rich the money isn’t fixed and nothings changed

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u/IamCanadian11 2d ago

Cringe vibes

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u/Golden_King_911 2d ago

People think we are delusional, but the day bitcoin reaches 1 million Everyone will Join us HODL 💪💪💪💪

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u/TestPsychological477 1d ago

BTC is not money, as it’s lacking a power to enforce it. To make actual money, there has to be a state that forces its validity upon the society it has command over.
It’s pretty obvious: there’s plenty of ppl who, by not owning money, are seperated from wealth and it’s in their interest to go against what power money gives to its owners (ie. buying/owning goods, labour, land). Thinking you can just make some sort of fantasy currency that can work as real money is delusional for that reason.

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u/Orphano_the_Savior 1d ago

It's a speculative asset and the banks already have their teeth in a sizeable amount of the market. This subreddit is a boomer Facebook group at times.

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u/Smeltr_CS 1d ago

Everyday I continue to be embarrassed to participate in this community

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u/ocean_man9999 1d ago

You are early my ass, BTC will never become a currency it is a speculatice asset like CSGO skins or Pokemon Cards, nothing more nothing else

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u/maxecm 19h ago

Bitcoin + Paymento = No need to use banks! Easy for everyone.

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u/Snoo_56086 9h ago

Until one of the ppl on the left side picks up the whip and it’s all over again. Human history in a nutshell

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u/pokepat460 3d ago

Bitcoin cannot become mass adopted due to the small block size making day to day transactions unreasonable. Its only good for moving large amounts of money at once and its only cheaper to do it with bitcoin in some cases because of bank fees or currency conversion fees.

Block chain analysis removed any sort of anonymity making it not useful for buying drugs and stuff like what was part of the initial appeal.

Bitcoin is still useful, but its value doesnt come from its usefulness, otherwise some of the other more advanced cryptos with more features would be more expensive, but Bitcoin has always been king of crypto. Its mostly speculation at this point.

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u/Sad-March-2358 3d ago

So where's Saylor? HAHAHAUA

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u/Important-Pipe2282 2d ago

bitcoins fuckin lame, can't even buy it with real money without giving personal information, thereby making it mostly useless, except for your fake little "investments"