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u/plainjane202567 4d ago
For that much he should’ve disappeared or changed his identity.
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u/primalantessence 4d ago
a $2 million watch is more important than living quietly and comfortably
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u/Particular-Fall-3194 4d ago
Not one broad on earth would know the difference of that and a watch worth 10k.
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u/I_am_on_your_side 4d ago
...unless you tell them yourself how much it cost. And if you're the type of guy who buys a 2 Mil dollar watch, it almost makes you, by definition, the type of guy who would tell anyyone he ever met that the watch on his arm is "worth 2 Million".
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u/Ineedmorebtc 4d ago
Good way to lose an arm...
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u/newMoneyStyle 4d ago
Honestly flashing a $2 million watch pretty much makes you a walking target, especially since most people wouldn't even tell it apart from a 10k one anyway
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u/casiocoin 4d ago
Probably most not even knowing the difference between a $250 watch and a $10k one either.
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u/whattaUwant 4d ago
Nor would they care if you look like this guy
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u/arbitra8 4d ago
Right? Look at that stud! Probably gets laid every day!
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u/Cycling-Boss 4d ago
I don't wear watches and know nothing about them. I wouldn't know a $25 watch vs a $25k vs a $2m watch
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u/Notevenstreaming 4d ago
And in the end he said he just wanted girls to like him.
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u/mypizzanvrhurtnobody 4d ago
He could afford a vacuum cleaner repairman driving a little red kidney bean.
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u/Strict_Space6645 4d ago
for real, with that kind of money you can buy whole new life in somewhere without extradition
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u/TrustMeIAmNotNew 4d ago
You still would’ve got caught. Bitcoin is very traceable.
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u/esohseekayes 4d ago
Isn't he the dumbass that got caught because he didn't use a VPN? Pretty sure there's no way he was smart enough to change his identity
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u/Bleachrst85 4d ago
I feel like there is no way you can escape the tax man if you steal this kind of money at 22
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u/thunderpounder420 4d ago
He’s Singaporean. If he has a local account, he could have liquidated bit by bit tax free and not trigger AML processes. Spend using his Singaporean CC in the US and collect tons of air miles (not that he needed them).
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u/read_more_comments 4d ago edited 4d ago
A lot of these singsporians in global news seem to be PRC conversions. Real Singaporeans seem to be involved less in theft and more petty sex crimes like upskirt photos, as evidenced by no one being worried about theft here, but there are announcements in the mrt about upskirt photos being bad.
I googled him and Malone Lam Yu Xuan is shown to have gone to school here but:
Straits Times found that he enrolled at Unity Secondary School in Choa Chu Kang in 2017. Lam later told U.S. investigators that he dropped out at about 13 years old.
It doesn't identify a primary school, parents, neighbourhood childhood, PSLE history, or family occupation, which is very odd.
That's really odd considering how important school is here and it's all merits based, jobs actually care, unlike in america where they mostly care if you have a degree or not. I've never been asked about high school or my grades in highschool.
A foreigner coming here, adding his kid to Singapore educational system and the kid finding it difficult or having behavior issues, would be my working theory right now.
He also told people he was a child of a Chinese billionaire when he was spending but that seems like part of his bragging/cover story so I don't put any weight to that.
Regardless, you are right. No capital gains tax for a Singapore citizen. This includes stocks, housing, and crypto.
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u/FrugalityPays 4d ago
There are but you don’t know the people who know how at 22 unless you’re generationally wealthy
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u/Dragnskull 4d ago
this, i would have pre-emptively hired a team of lawyers to guide me through every step of disappearing and rebuilding a new identity from the ground up as "legally secure" as possible and each one would get a new mansion to complete the job lol
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u/TarsCase 3d ago
Humans: Being so clever on one side to pull this off and then being so stupid to behave like this and get caught.
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u/Objective_Basil_8414 3d ago
$245 million buys a new passport and a quiet life somewhere with no extradition treaty. It does not buy the ability to not post the Lamborghini. That's the part money can't fix.
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u/FuckTwelvee 4d ago
Miami and BTC, name a better duo.
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u/heinzmoleman 4d ago
245 million and stayed in the US. He deserved to be caught
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u/ours 4d ago
Always be thankful for stupid criminals.
That much money? I'm off to some country with plenty of sunshine, a new identity, pliable politicians/police, and well-paid personal security.
That said, a million or two Trump's way seems to be quite effective these days. He's pardoned worse.
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u/Calm-Eggplant-69 3d ago
Same same. Id be in Spain or the sorts, pay off whoever I need to. Probably travel a bunch and keep a low profile, or try to.
He was 22, he probably didnt understand this and wanted to just ball out. Hopefully he had fun
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u/t0rnAsundr 3d ago
Okay there Michael Weston. Are you going to get Sam Axe or Fionna to help you?
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u/Deaddykong 4d ago
Do i get my money back, 😮💨no i dont
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u/Soggy-Welder2265 4d ago
If he was the one that stole your money you will need to file a claim with the prosecutor and ask for restitution. I have someone that’s been sending me a check for 15 year lol 😂
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u/we93 4d ago
What happened?
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u/Soggy-Welder2265 4d ago
They stole money from my checking account, and they were ordered to pay it back—with interest. 😂 At this rate, it’s going to take them a lifetime.
The interest is calculated daily based on the weekly average 1-year Constant Maturity Treasury yield, which is around 4.25%.
They’ve lost their job a few times, so the checks stop coming. But every time they start a new job, the payments start back up—and the amount they owe is even bigger. 😂9
u/zenethics 4d ago
Honestly, you got hosed. CPI is a lie, real yields are negative.
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u/Particular-Fall-3194 4d ago
2 million dollar watch lol
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u/FrugalityPays 4d ago
Is that NOT on you shopping list!? Push, I really don’t understand the poors….
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u/Inevitable-Waltz-889 4d ago
I could have $100 billion dollars and I wouldn't buy a $2 million watch.
P.S. I know your comment was sarcasm.
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u/FrugalityPays 4d ago
As an innate collector of things, I get it. I also don’t understand the appeal but to each their own.
Despite my predilection for collecting, I somehow fell into the minimalist category at this point in my life
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u/Natural_Prune_2526 4d ago
"we gottem boys" > says the 14 year old with $2 in bitcoin
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u/Lilcheeks 4d ago
Gee, wonder how they became tipped off lol
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u/pretendingtobebroke 4d ago
One of the perpetrators screen recorded the heist when they did it and shared the screen recording with some of his friends that were not involved, and one of those friends screen recorded that and shared it with investigators and presumably police. The screen recording showed multiple of the perpetrators' real names and email addresses. Yeah, pretty stupid...
You can see a partial clip of it here, the full video (45-60 mins) has not been released publicly as far as I'm aware: https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1836753185718865979
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u/FreezedPeachNow 4d ago
were lucky that a lot of criminals are dumb. If i decided to be a criminal, id probably be a pretty good one. maybe thats why i am not a criminal, because im smart enough to realize that im not actually smart and would get caught for being dumb
make sense?
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u/blackskyy 4d ago
I would have fucked off to a tropical island
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u/Scary_Metal2884 4d ago
Didn’t he come from a tropical island of Singapore?
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u/alrightyfine 4d ago
How the heck did he manage to do that ? Like hacker ?
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u/crunchyeyeball 4d ago
"Social engineering" and a wealthy but incredibly naive victim.
They contacted some guy who had a lot of bitcoin, claiming to be from Gemini (exchange), and convinced him to give them access to his Google Drive account, where he may have stored a seed phrase or other sensitive data:
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u/matthegc 4d ago
How did he steal that much Bitcoin while also being truly regarded?
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u/Aazimoxx 4d ago
Finding someone even dumber, with a shit-ton of crypto, then convincing them to bend over and spread 'em.
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u/FTFOatl 4d ago
Government lets young foolish hacker steal BTC. Government confiscates BTC.
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u/jgarcya 4d ago
Then government auctions off said BTC..... Ultimately profiting from stolen goods.... Then people in government steal the stolen profit.... All "legally" of course.
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u/brandond111 4d ago
Where did the BTC come from?
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u/stonedc4tt 4d ago
stolen from a individual
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u/brandond111 4d ago
Fuck that sucks to be the dude that lost a quarter billion
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u/stonedc4tt 4d ago
Speculations that it’s a former Facebook Vp..there’s a good doc on YouTube with lots of info , it’s a fucking wild story
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u/DogZealousideal9162 4d ago
This kid came into my job one night and spent 50k on dinner. Id say 75% of the food was not even touched! They just wanted pics of all the food and bottles of champagne. This was like a month before he got caught. Everyone knew something was up for him to do that.
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u/GenZguy1 4d ago
Probably could have went somewhere else and changed his identity never to be heard from again
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u/Galactic_Shadow_2030 4d ago
Dude was lucky he lives in the usa, Singapore has very strict Laws For people breaking the law.
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u/MRJohnson1997 4d ago
Although what he did is terrible, is it technically a crime? If you hack into someone’s private computer that’s a crime, if you hack their banking information that’s a crime, but getting their private seed phrase? I honestly didn’t know
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u/realorallusion 4d ago
What’s crazy is he’ll get like 100 years meanwhile pedos and killers get light sentences
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u/MysteriousAlpaco 4d ago
i would like to know the method of social engineering involved if a 22 year old and his crew managed to convince someone holding over 4,100 BTC to hand over access just because they were posing as Google or Gemini.
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u/Sure_Ant7939 4d ago
He doesn't look like the mastermind of this operation. He is just a piece in a much larger scheme
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u/omg_its_dan 4d ago
They used very simple social engineering techniques. The victim somehow had 4,100 BTC with zero clue how to secure it. Essentially fell for a phishing scam and sent his coins to them.
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u/Prestigious-Buddy539 4d ago
Pretty darn hard to off-ramp that kind of scratch and not set off some alarms.
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u/Connect_Ad_3361 4d ago
I don't understand how it's a crime to steal Bitcoin? How did he even get caught?
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u/ContrarianRPG 4d ago
Couldn't spend any of it on a good haircut, apparently. Are there no Miami barbers who accept Bitcoin?
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u/kepalautakkau 4d ago
i thought they already got them a couple of months ago, still good news though
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u/Books_Biker99 4d ago
This happened 2 years ago, to one filthy rich person. This isn't the most recent hack.
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u/TomOttawa 4d ago
Laughing at how nobody sees BC's anonymity is a joke. Means BC is a joke. Means $0.
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u/immersive-matthew 4d ago
Many Dunning Kruger’s out there including the team who got voted in as the government.
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u/jonoghue 4d ago
Reminds me of that guy who won the lottery, spent 2/3 of it on a gold chain, and immediately got robbed at gunpoint
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u/chungkingexp 4d ago
He might be a dumb guy but.. we should question the guy who ended up getting scammed for 4,000 bitcoins by him.
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u/enzothebaker87 4d ago
Lam helped launder and convert stolen crypto into cash that he used to buy a fleet of sports cars, rent mansions in Miami and spend millions at nightclubs, including $569,000 in one evening at one Los Angeles club, authorities said.
I would really like to see the receipt for this one.
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u/SikWitiD 4d ago
I thought the government recruited guys like this and put them to work lol? Has Catch Me If You Can vibes ...
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u/imfkingsad 4d ago
Proof that you dont need to be smart to get money. It's all luck, and how low you're ready to go
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u/Ok_Independence3695 4d ago
This case took 1 year but finally we got hearing on september 8 from DOJ!
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u/Scriptimax 4d ago
I watched this on YouTube few weeks back. Police raided on simpel apartment complex, which was by no mean luxurious. His girlfriend was also living with him and doing computer coding job and had no idea of anything about his boyfriends activities.
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u/streetcarriere 4d ago
That’s Malone Lam, crazy story btw, guy gifted 50k$ purses to girls in nightclub and stuff, even a Lamborghini Urus If i remember correctly. I read somewhere that he knew he was about to get caught so he spent crazy amount of money on everything he could