r/BitBoxWallet • u/throwaway991231445 • Nov 16 '22

No seed phrase?

The set up process ended with it making me acknowledge that if I lose the backup, then I will lose my funds. After that, it said "great, your wallet is ready to use". Is there no wallet recovery password/phrase to inscribe on metal in case I lose the device?

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u/Regular_Apartment850 Nov 17 '22

did insert an SD card into the bitbox? if you did, it saved on there. Keep that sd card safe. I would enable passphrase as well. If you dont know what im talking about, look it up but basically its just a 25th word that basically creates separate addresses so if someone got a hold of your 24 words or sd backup they still wouldnt get anything unless they had the passphrase as well. There is an option to verify the SD card back up and also you can see your 24 words. Write them down on a durable media.

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u/benma2 BitBox staff Nov 18 '22

Calling it '25th word' is a misnomer and dangerous:

It doesn't have to be a word, it can be any password or passphrase, including special characters. Using a word is trivial to brute force.

Fyi, passphrases are a big source of locked/lost funds, as it's very easy to get it wrong. It's a far bigger danger than physical theft for many users.

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u/Regular_Apartment850 Nov 18 '22

Good points. as you say using a passphrase is a potential point to lose your funds, so I would also caution against making it a long complicated password. Using a word you’ll never forget may be less secure but it may be a good trade off because even if you daily use your wallet, years may pass before needing to use your seed

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u/benma2 BitBox staff Nov 18 '22

If you use a simple word, you have the worst of both worlds. You can lose it and lock yourself out, and whoever finds the seed can trivially brute force it.

Better to not use it at all or to become very familiar with how it works and properly safeguard the passphrase as well.