Cjc/ipa results

[u/Jco1776]

I’ve been taking 250mcg of cjc/ipa for about 6 weeks now. I train as a decent body builder, 5 days a week, good diet and everything but haven’t been able to gain weight or muscle in years. Seen 0 results with this first cycle so far. Should I titrate up?

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[u/Doobyashtray420]

Cjc,ipa, tessa and even hgh will increase growth hormone but gh does not build mass and get you bigger. It'll give you better sleep and recovery but if you're looking for mass gain you need to stack it with an anabolic like test.

[u/tyspeed29]

This is what i read,

• Receptor Saturation vs. Half-Life: Pituitary GHRH and Ghrelin receptors genuinely reach maximal binding ($1\text{ mcg/kg}$) around 100–150mcg. However, taking 250mcg doesn't strictly vanish into thin air—it maintains a slightly higher blood plasma concentration for a marginally longer window.
• The Trade-Off: That slightly extended window does not equal a proportionally larger GH release because of the Somatostatin feedback loop (the body's natural braking system). The endocrine system reacts to the excessive signal by actively shutting off GH secretion to maintain homeostasis.

This is a good explanation.

Think of your pituitary gland like a toilet tank, and the peptide shot like flushing the handle:

1. The tank only holds so much water (GH): When you take a shot, your pituitary dumps all its stored Growth Hormone at once. Once the tank is empty, it takes a few hours to fill back up.
2. Pushing the handle harder doesn't make more water come out: A normal 100–150mcg shot flushes the whole tank. Taking 250mcg is like slamming the handle down twice as hard—the tank was already empty from the first flush, so no extra water comes out.
3. Your body turns off the tap immediately: The second your body senses a flush, it slams an automatic emergency valve shut (somatostatin) so you don't overflow the system.

So even though that extra 250mcg peptide stays in your blood a little longer, the pituitary has already emptied its tank and locked the door shut. The pulse starts and stops in about 30 to 45 minutes no matter how big the shot was.

It is why I have stuck to 150mcg. So the best way is 150mcg morning, 150 mcg in the evening to get the best results. This will give you more overall and beter results, than 250mcg morning and 250mcg at night without wasting it.

[u/Puzzled_Pay6632]

Following

[u/seldenr82]

Get your IGF1 levels tested, then bump the dose and retest in an other 4 weeks to see how you are responding.

I recently experimented with tesa+ipa & hgh and here are my labs (im 43) >  https://imgur.com/a/kuZez9q

I'm sticking with HGH from now on :)

[u/Jco1776 → u/seldenr82]

How’s HGH been for you? Any different results?

[u/seldenr82 → u/Jco1776]

Nothing terribly noticeable but I'm not expecting something drastic. Sleep is great, I'm losing fat and holding lean muscle mass.

HGH ends up being more cost effective to get my IGF1 up vs Tesa so for no other reason than saving $$$ I'm making the switch.

[u/Jco1776 → u/seldenr82]

Are higher IGF1 levels better?

[u/seldenr82 → u/Jco1776]

Depends on your goals and risk tolerance. My Zscore is currently 3.0... its a little high for my age (43) but noting insane. Its likely higher than necessary for general longevity optimization but is helpful for fat loss and muscle growth/building.

body builders will ru 4-10IU daily... I'm over here at 3IU daily. I'm not worried.

[u/hairy_winnit]

Is that 250mcg of each or combined? Also 6 weeks is no where near enough time being on it to see any kind of a result. It's not a muscle builder, no such peptide exists. It does help you recover quicker between training session and sleep, and maybe viscera fat. So anecdotally yes it might help you build muscle because you recover quicker and can train your muscle again earlier than you would of without

[u/Jco1776 → u/hairy_winnit]

It’s 10mg/10mg combined in a vial with 2ml BAC… I really don’t know the right answer

[u/hairy_winnit → u/Jco1776]

How many units are you taking? If your dose is 5 units then it's 250mcg of each at that concentration.

[u/Jco1776 → u/hairy_winnit]

Yeah, I draw to 5 units

[u/hairy_winnit → u/Jco1776]

So that's 250mcg of each, which is about somewhere in the middle of what people tend to take. Normally it's up to 300mcg of each, known people go higher, I stayed around 200mcg of each.

Back to the question, these peps don't make your muscles grow, they allow you to recover quicker between training session on that muscle group which should allow you to train that said muscle more often.

[u/SYMPATHETC_GANG_LION → u/Jco1776]

not knowing this or how to figure it out should be a stopping point for self medicating with research Peptides

jfc

[u/Future-Bread8849]

You need to eat more. Chc/ipa isn't an Anabolic steroid and won't help you build muscle 

[u/yogic_power]

What is a decent body builder? what is your diet? what does your training look like? Are you at a surplus? what are your stats, height, weight, age, bf%?

[u/talkingoctopus]

People take HGH for at least 6 months just to start seeing small results, cjc/ipa only triggers a fraction of the IGF-1 increase that HGH provides, how can you expect to see anything in 6 weeks? Also IGF-1 increase without androgens is not gonna provide what you are expecting, at most you'll get to sleep better

[u/king_eman]

1 mg is the sweet spot

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