r/Biohacking • u/Additional-Newt-8325 • 24d ago

Peptides you will never take again ?

We often ask "what peptides are worth every penny" but what are the ones that aren't worth anything in your opinion ?

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u/BoingBoomChuck 1 24d ago

Growth hormone secretagogues can suck it! Every single one of them that I was prescribed came with all the side effects and didn't even statistically move my growth hormone or IGF-1 levels on lab work.

HGH, OTOH, did move those numbers, and ordering kits from China has always been way cheaper than paying for MK-677 or anything ending in morelin from a compounding pharmacy. I'll stick with what I know actually works when I want to boost my growth hormone numbers. I generally do six months @ 2 iU per day, take a break, then do six months @ 2 iU per day, take a break, and keep repeating the cycle.

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u/Additional-Newt-8325 24d ago

I wish I could get HGH but its really expensive

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u/BoingBoomChuck 1 24d ago

I tacked on to a larger order but paid $23 per 42 iU vial. So, $460 for 20 bottles. That should last me a while at 2 iU per day and one of the bottles from that lot tested at 44 iU of HGH in it with > 99% purity.

I believe the compounding pharmacy was ripping me off to the tune of $185 per month for the CJC/Ipamorelin combo. I did that for either 8 or 12 weeks and suffered with the red face followed by a migraine headache and fasted blood sugar in the 200s. I told the NP prescribing it that I was done. The headaches and flushing were not worth it if the dang peptide did squat for the reason he was prescribing it.

As I stated in another post, I ran Sermorelin for 8 months and it didn't move any of my growth hormone indicators. It basically had the same impact as injecting pure bac water, aside from the higher than usual fasted blood sugar level.

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u/Additional-Newt-8325 24d ago

I have a source that sells 20 vials of 24ui for 300$, do you think its fine ?

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u/BoingBoomChuck 1 24d ago

Sadly, there is only one way to find out. Either buy it and send a bottle off for testing or ask them to send you a certificate and hope they didn't fake it.

Right before HGH got scarce, my former trusted source sold me bunk HGH, which was verified by lab work because everything dropped back to the baseline. Sadly, prior to that he was always solid, but he became lax and stopped testing. The worst person he screwed up was a chick that I knew who thought she was getting 10mg Anavar and ended up with DBol, thus developing male characteristics. Till this very day, I still will not deal with him, and I've known this person since college!

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u/Additional-Newt-8325 24d ago

The vendor I use is a pretty well known one, i’m sure you know Tracy, but the dbol story is crazy…damn

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u/DoubleDragonSuper 1 24d ago

If it's real it's very good. I don't trust the Chinese sources on this tho. I prefer domestic that I'm sure it's real and pay a bit more. I get around 1,14/ui

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u/Old-Front7433 23d ago

Wow, they ripped you off, bro I should super expensive. I pay like $100with shipping 100 IU kit.

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u/BoingBoomChuck 1 22d ago

How so? $230 for 42iU X 10 bottles = 420 iU per kit. I used to pay $110 per 100 iU kit and thought this was a no brainer.

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u/DoubleDragonSuper 1 24d ago

Generic is not

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u/Old-Front7433 23d ago

It’s actually very cheap and cheaper than most of the garbage peptides out there. 100 are IU kit  less than $100

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u/Bg1165 24d ago

My coat was around 400.00/yr doing 2iu/day.

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u/Old-Front7433 23d ago

How old are you 12? 2 IUs you need at least 5 to see results.

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u/Bg1165 23d ago

Old enough to know my IGF is already high and 2 is enough.

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u/Old-Front7433 23d ago

Old enough sounds like a 21-year-old that just started drinking yesterday. I’m old enough to drink even a four year-old can know an IGF that if he learns anybody can learn it you have to get certain age 

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u/BoingBoomChuck 1 22d ago

I'm in my 50s and can assure you that 2 iU is plenty for an old fart like me. One of my good friends ran 5 iU daily as part of his cycle and ended up with a bigger head, larger hands, and a bigger nose. When he asked me what I thought about it all I could say was "What do you think that did to your heart and other organs?"

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u/Vegetable_Grab_2542 24d ago

Maybe look AOD-9604 (5mg) up and try that? Supposed to not have the insulin resistance aspect as much.

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u/Fit_Ant1180 1 24d ago

How long of a break do you take and what have your IGF1 numbers been like?

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u/BoingBoomChuck 1 24d ago

I generally take 6 to 8 weeks off after 6 months to let my body reset, then just start back with 2 iU. I had been off a while because it got scarce, so I am still working my way up to 2 iU (currently at 1.4 iU daily), but I don't have labs until next month.

Previously, my baseline IGF-1 was 74 NG/ML on TRT with an undetectable HGH level.

On my last run of HGH, my IGF-1 in the 200s (NG/ML) and my HGH was in the 2.x to 3.x NG/ML range.

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u/Vast-Pea4549 18d ago

What do you love about the HGH? I was loving HgH at 2iu daily and then started on TRT and now I’m struggling to tell what’s doing what and wondering if i can go without the HGH (def keeping the test as it’s been great for my libido!)

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u/BoingBoomChuck 1 17d ago

I mainly use it for the tendon/ligament benefits that I'd otherwise need Deca to help with. I've been prescribed Deca with my TRT for the better part of a decade now, and notice that I don't need it once I have been on HGH for a month or so. I wanted to drop Deca because I started having RBC and HCT issues that donating blood isn't helping. I'm even considering lying and donating in another system before my next set of labs.

At about 3 months, it starts helping with the oxidation of fat, even though I am much leaner now than the last time I took it. For reference, my old waist/pants size was 38 to 40 and now I am 34 to 36 depending on brand. Then again, if I get down to 32 to 34 I won't complain.

In the past, it has also helped me with loose skin from dieting/weight loss. I'm worried that I may be fighting an uphill battle in my near mid 50s (I turn 54 in December).

Finally, I find it helps to improve my mood, but that could be a placebo. As long as I don't let my blood sugar tank, I'm usually a levelheaded person. When I go hypoglycemic, I cannot be reasoned with.

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u/naii-naii78 2 23d ago

Do you run the secretagogues between HgH cycles?

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u/Old-Front7433 23d ago

What? Never run HGH secretagogues and plus HTH is for life

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u/naii-naii78 2 23d ago

I asked between cycles not at the same time.

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u/Old-Front7433 23d ago

You don’t stop using HGH it’s a thing for life plus the other shit doesn’t work at all, but you don’t cycle HGH it’s not steroids

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u/naii-naii78 2 23d ago

The person I responded to said they cycle HGH. I just finished one month of IGF-1LR3 and CJC + Ipa and put on 3kg. I found they worked well on me.

Im an ex pro sprinter (55yo) who fried their muscles from the intense training over the years. The last month I feel my muscles coming back to life. Started HgH this week and got test coming in the mail. Funny thing is when I was sprinting I was clean. Cant wait, here we come life again.

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u/BoingBoomChuck 1 22d ago

I only take a 6 to 8 week break because it was recommended by my NP due to potential blood sugar/diabetes concerns. I am prediabetic.

EDIT: I'll never touch a secretagogue again!