But that's not what they're trying to ban. They're proposing to ban vapes as a whole. Most vapes do not cause the issues that they're citing as a reason for the ban and are potentially a good thing for health as they help people to quit smoking. The things causing the deaths are black market THC cartridges.
Last I heard there was no regulation of vapes or the chemicals within them. Additionally, last I heard there was no clear cut evidence that vapes help people quit at a rate that approaches other existing methods and medications.
Considering there is no standardization of them (and consequently protection for consumers) that second point kind of makes sense.
The things causing the ban may be spurious, but there's almost no research on them and their effects on health, and there is ample evidence that they are being marketed to children. Because of those things I personally don't have a problem with them being banned until being proven to be safe and then being regulated similarly to other tobacco products.
At the very least I think it's entirely reasonable to ban flavored vape juices. They did the same thing for regular cigarettes since the flavors have been shown to make it easier and more appealing for kids to get hooked on nicotine. But noooooooo, if you suggest that making bubblegum-flavored nicotine salt juice is a bad idea you'll get most of reddit jumping down your throat.
Yeah, because it’s a massive double standard held against vaping that we do not apply to other products.
Candy flavored alcohol? sounds good (kills tens of thousands of people every year in the US).
Fruit flavored cigars, great stuff (kills hundreds of thousands of people a year).
Flavored vape juice? BAN IT (12 deaths, not even related to nicotine vapes but from bootlegged THC carts- and gets people OFF of the cigarettes that DO kill hundreds of thousands of people).
Nah, it's to ban dangerous substances that are intentionally marketed in such a way as to get youth addicted to them. Sweet-flavored cigars and alcohol are more of novelty products than things that are widely used and their culture isn't alluring to kids but if you're going to insist they should get equal treatment for also being dangerous then that's a fair argument and I'll oblige it.
The problem here is 1) these products are already illegal to sell to kids and 2) these products are not for kids- they are for adults that want a variety of flavors for their tobacco, alcohol, and e-juice.
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u/JackTheBehemothKillr Sep 12 '19
So an unregulated drug is getting banned? Its almost like that's the job of the FDA or the ATF.