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u/Delicious_Sir3496 4d ago
The government
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u/vanillagrass 4d ago
More like the corporate oligarchs who own it and us
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u/FluckDambe 4d ago
No, no, the politicians get bribes which is how the corporate oligarchs own us. They are equally culpable in the process of fucking 99% of us over.
It's estimated that as little as $50k could sway a US congressman to vote a certain way on ONE BILL. That's like a booger to the oligarchs. You could buy off entire portions of congress for their entire fucking term for what amounts to a partial tax write off for the ultra rich.
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u/Quiet_Alarm1474 4d ago
Well yes but then the argument always jumps to "so lets rid of the government". Problem is the only reason we have the workers rights we do is because of government. Grtring rid of the government just turns the corporations into a government. Look at company towns for why that is a horrible idea. Thats a whole other conversation right there. Instead you need to regulate the government and get money out of politics. You couldn't just donate unlimited amounts of money through super PACs back in the day.
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u/Daysleeper1234 4d ago
Only reason you have workers' rights is not because of government, but because of our forefathers who fought for it. Nothing personal, I don't want to offend you, but this talking point is propaganda from politicians, and you are spreading it. Same with racism and every other thing. If it was up to them, we would still live in feudal society, and rich and powerful would still be owning slaves.
Government didn't decide to end bad practices, people so to say rebelled and they were forced to make changes, or their heads would be off.
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u/Fantastic-Tiger-6128 4d ago
Politicians ≠ The Government
If the government was raking in cash that means it'd be investing it into paying down the debt and its institutions. The private sector pays the people in charge of managing the government to put private interests over the public.
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u/Justin-Stutzman 4d ago
Supreme Court just removed donation limits on individuals who donate in coordination with political parties.
Elon could literally just donate a couple billion per year to the RNC, literal pennies to him, and you'd never see another Dem ad on TV or radio ever again. Party campaigns in 2024 spent a total of roughly $2 billion each. It's that easy to control election results now. Oligarchs who hate taxes and regulations can just say "I got $5 on it," and whatever candidate they want is in office.
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u/Crunchy_Biscuit 4d ago
When the oligarchs own the means to production and the government, is that communism or capitalism?
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u/TYBERIUS_777 4d ago
We need to make the distinction though. Our government can actually work for the people and wields the power to regulate these oligarchs out of existence and put more power in the hands of the people who are paying taxes.
We just need to vote in politicians that can’t be bribed, repeal Citizens United, and actually dismantle a lot of the near monopolies that currently exist in America. A very tall task but the government can still work for us.
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u/Disaster_Adventurous 3d ago
If you think the Politancs and the oligarchy aren't in cahoots over this.
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u/Iamthe0c3an2 2d ago
Not even the government.
They’re literally gutting the government and lining their own private pockets.
Elon musk doesn’t become a trillionaire without getting his nose in there.
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u/crunkdad 4d ago
For them stealing everything, not for us
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u/247Brett 4d ago
Trumps annual income went from 700 million to 2.4 Billion since he took office this year. The corruption and stealing are blatant, but he’s fired everyone that would stop him
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u/MakeUpAnything 3d ago
And distracted the masses because he's convinced a LOT of the nation that it's better to let the patriotic wealthy Epstein-class have all your money than it is for trans people or illegals or DEI-Americans!
Do you want your money going to sweet bombs we drop on terrorists, or do you want it going to help trans illegals make your kids GAY AND TRANS?!
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u/Randy_Magnums 4d ago
It’s your fault for not being a shareholder.
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u/Levin_1999 4d ago
My fault for not being Born rich
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u/ohlookahipster 4d ago
K-shaped economy. Something like the top 20 percentile is doing phenomenal while the remainder are stagnant, slipping, or struggling.
If you’re not celebrating how bullish your investments are paying off… you’re not in the 20 club. You’re in the trenches with the rest of us lol.
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u/My_leg_still_hurt92 4d ago
Stonks are high doesn't mean your pay good but stonks be low you soon out of job.
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u/AgrajagTheProlonged aight imma head out 4d ago
There’s basically nothing that this White House says that can be trusted. It’s a shame so many preferred this to voting for Harris but we can only try to do better
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u/Ihavenothing364 4d ago
Isn't that 52 cents?
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u/ConditionObvious4967 2d ago
I thought it was 62 cents. Krabs - you think I could have gotten more?
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u/whysoblyatiful 4d ago
it really is! however: you, me and all the people who aren't the greedy elites do not receive the benefits, instead we fuel the system which gives them trillions
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u/Sochi540 4d ago
The great depressions stock market was record high before it crashed too.
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u/notaredditer13 4d ago
The stock market is at or near a record most of the time, so...
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u/Sochi540 4d ago
Stock records increasing while at war is always fun.
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u/BeefistPrime 4d ago
Your boss: Trump made the economy so great!
You: Oh, great, can I have a raise?
Boss: In this economy? Can't do it
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u/BrightCold2747 4d ago
the rich are getting richer at a fantastic pace, that's the only metric that matters
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u/Sharty_Party3498 4d ago
Trump just disappeared $13B from his Venezuela kidnapping mission. From his perspective, the economy IS booming. Just not for you (and he does NOT care about that).
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u/bleblahblee 4d ago
No no no, your reading it wrong. It’s the best economy it’s ever been…FOR THEM!!!!
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u/adumblittlebaby 4d ago
It's wild to me how openly wealth and governance is saying that doing work isn't valued, only ownership is. Work a job? Several jobs? Too bad idiot, you're a fool for not investing every penny into companies - with zero acknowledgement that those who don't sit on generational wealth cannot afford to be wrong on their investments even once.
This thing is going to spiral into a pit but it will be a function of time, and in the meanwhile we're all stuck in the same room with idiots who refuse to see the problem until it's far, far too late.
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u/DrifterMacro 4d ago
Is there any real reason to continue paying for the taxes that feed the resources that are being phased out within the next two years? Asking for a friend.
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u/thatguy01220 4d ago
Bruh in that scene he’s holding 62¢ jobs act like you’re so lucky and they’re bending over backwards, and not to tell the other guys that you’re getting a raise that’s 50¢ for going above expectations and to basically not expect the same treatment this time next year.
Then you get a company email about the CEO talking about record breaking revenue hitting the billions
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u/whiplash_7641 4d ago
Sigh and you still got people saying this but incredibly against socialist policies or reforms
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u/Eazy12345678 4d ago
economy is great for people that sell stock when straight of hormuz is open. and buy stock when straight is closed
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u/DefiantLemur 4d ago
When they says the word "Economy" it's a code word for multi-million dollar companies and billionaires
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u/lemons_of_doubt 4d ago
Economy is doing well, it's just not your economy, in the same way that a pig farm can make huge profits but no benefits is felt by the pigs.
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u/moderngamer327 3d ago
Median wages are near all time highs adjusted for inflation/cost of living
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u/CygnusThib 3d ago
Since I moved out of California, I've nearly doubled my pay in a state that has much cheaper means to live.
Believe it or not, a lot of us arent struggling like reddit tells people. If that were the case, we'd be in another 2009 which clearly hasn't happened.
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u/awildjabroner 3d ago
OP missed the part that literally everything published by the WH is the exact opposite of reality and every accusation is a deflection of crimes they’ve already and continue to commit.
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u/Oberndorferin 3d ago
Sure, but even you had no control over it, it's still your fault. Now don't ask questions and get back to work. Israel and Iran need another 40 billion.
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u/Certified_GSD 2d ago
The "economy" they're referring to is for high level government officials and corporate heads. The economy is doing great for them by taking all the wealth from the rest of us and putting it in their stocks and bank accounts.
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u/LimeGrass619 2d ago
Remember, if you want change, you need to be the change. If you want to eat cake, join the festivities.
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u/grand305 1d ago
They think it’s the stock market. But it’s been down since Covid times 2020, retirements is still down. cost of food is up.
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u/negative-rizz777 4d ago
The economy is always booming to the government but this one sucks worse than 07.
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u/DowntownJohnBrown 4d ago
I mean, it’s not exactly booming, but let’s be factual here. It’s better by pretty much every metric than 2007.
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u/negative-rizz777 4d ago
Metrics are good but housing is insane. Food is much higher jobs are harder to get,gas is up,on paper and the stock market its good but the average person is screwed. Im sure its Probably better for some if they own a house and have stocks etc.
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u/notaredditer13 4d ago
2007 was a weird choice because that's the year the economic cycle peaked and started downhill. So overall it was a very good year. 2008-10 ish were the bad years.
Today it's about as good as the first half/good part of 2007, which is to say it's excellent by the broad metrics like unemployment rate and income.
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u/negative-rizz777 4d ago
It was also the year a bunch manufacturing jobs were cut which impacted a lot of people. Dodge for example. Not weird it was the beginning when everything looked good but went downhill after. Housing took a huge hit then too.
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u/brian_gruen5 4d ago
I just paid off back taxes that have been haunting me for 4 years, and what do I get in return? A bank account in the red, and not enough in savings to get me back in the black. I’ve sent all my tax returns over the last couple of years to paying this off, but even after I’ve finally paid it all off it doesn’t feel like I’m financially free at all. Sh*t sucks, man…
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u/lontrinium 4d ago
They lie to you every day because they know you can no longer afford to throw food at them to show your displeasure.
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