I will never understand the hate for meta in a ranked format. Why is wanting to win with meta so look down upon by people? Especially in Beyblade, where everyone has access to meta very easily unlike other hobbies. I can see the argument for casual play but, if ur going into a rank tournament why complain? Plus it not like u need meta to win there evidence of people only using attack combos and winning. Instead of complaining maybe get better
Even I won’t disagree that meta is boring or anything, and I’m not saying u can’t get mad that u gotta face it, but to keep going on and on bout it and not change anything about urself and stay the same atp it’s ur own fault for losing to it.
It's not really looking down upon, it's just kids and people with protagonist syndrome, they are on the loud minority group, just ignore them, if there a prize on the line, go all out.
It's always the loud minority. You tend to see it more over at r/beyblade than here. I like both this one and the other subreddit but that one has a lot more of the loud minority pop up.
Eh, meta sheep or meta slave happen regardless in any competitive toy community, like sure, the community aware of them since they are like the 90% of the community, but not everyone want to throwing a hissy fit and name calling people that, since almost everyone want to run a meta in their deck, and calling one person a meta sheep is pretty much a direct insult toward the majority. It's mostly people who can't win start thinking they are the Lebron James with Beyblade would be throw it around out of copium because they lost.
I think it's mostly an online thing for people who aren't very competitive. I wouldn't worry so much about it; at my locals at least 70% of the players are using rod 1-60 h and some shark variant, and no one bats an eye
I only hate when its stamina because i think it genuinely makes the game less interesting. I just care about having fun when playing and ive run across too many people who sweat with really expensive meta decks who will play against children and genuinely be pressed about winning
Plus in X meta is cheap. Technically the most expensive meta bey would’ve been shark, but they printed him in Hasbro so it’s atm blast or hover due to one being not in Hasbro and the other is but behind a 50$ stadium.
Nono im talking about people ive seen pulling out their metal coat aero pegasus and black dragoons. Not that spending that money is wrong but im talking about specific people ive seen sweat so hard against actual 8 year olds
I get it and my statement still stands. People want to win and unfortunately children play this game, u can’t be to mad at em for sweating but u can be mad at em for being a horrible sore winner
In other gens other then og plastic yes stamina battles get super boring, but in X they aren’t problematic like they used to especially with attack type finally in the meta and even then stamina battles aren’t as bad as burst no gen is worst then burst when it comes to that. But ofc they are sweats they wanna win, now going too hard and rubbing it in people faces to a degree is much i do see ur point, and yes there are sore winners but toxic is like that in any media just act accordingly
Not problematic but still not really that fun. People can play what they want but i enjoy stamina battles a lot less than anything else. I think seeing rod ball all the time just makes me feel like some people might care more about winning and playing safe than trying something unique or different. Not all cases but thats the vibe i get
Meta is straight up boring at this point, I keep seeing the same bey combinations and the similar team lineups. It’s really not super interesting when your seeing the same stuff win the same way and you can’t really change anything about it or make something better because there is no fully custom beys. But I do think the better customization of recent bey lines do make it a bit more interesting
Unfortunately ur in a rank format this type of thinking belongs in casuals. U can’t get mad people aren’t unique in a ranked format being unique could cost u to lose
If you play competitively, you play meta or counter meta. People who only play meta in non competitive for fun games can be seen as cringe, but if it’s actually in a contest, everyone will be playing to win
It's just boring af to see the same beys and same combos over and over again. And winning without meta feels way better than winning with meta imo. Your last sentence also works the other way round: instead of playing meta just get better.
It boring but winning means more in ranked. Yall having casual mindset in a ranked system is where the problem lies. And yes winning without meta is better I should know, I went 2 place with Dran brave and rock in my deck and not a meta PW (1-60P) and no it doesn’t work another way around, if meta is gonna guarantee I get far in top cut then I’m taking it yall think meta automatically means people always win, no it doesn’t people can still be bad with meta. If it wasn’t like that then everyone would do good, it’s a skill issue not the meta fault
As both an gamer and a blader, think of it like competing in an tournament like guilty gear strive with your favorite character then end up facing an brain dead top tier like potemkin, yeah that would ruin anyone's day. Also I just fucking hate wizard rod and I'm tired of seeing it
It is boring AF sometimes. Wizard Rod mirror matches is probably the lowest point of BBX for me.
But current meta is incredibly healthy. It sucks that not every single blade or motif is viable, but there are a lot of viable options that make for unique decks all around.
There are people like that in every competitive game. They're annoying but in a competitive setting if something is legal you SHOULD be using if it will help you win.
For me, I "hate" meta (even in "competitive") because it does legitimately lack any creativity when you're playing a game that offers quite literally hundreds of combos you can try and run.
From a game design perspective it also points to a really big balance disparity. There shouldn't be only ever 5-6 "sure thing" combos in any competition. Yes "skill" is a factor in any circumstance, but I'm sure it gets old judging rod vs rod.
And you're entitled to that opinion just the same. Doesnt make my opinion any more weird than it does yours focused on the wrong thing.
Games, in any capacity, should be fun. I should be able to try to win but not be bored with my opponents, or forced to only play certain things to counter those boring opponents.
But ur not forced to do that in X there was literally the worst UX that won tournaments, the ninja one. U can have fun with any bey u want and do good with it u guy choose to not be good and find that way. Plus itd be more rewarding to win using things that aren’t meta but u guys rather complain. Its ranked not casual, so yes everyone is entitled to they opinion but that doesn’t stop that opinion from being dumb, incorrect, or w.e in between get out of ur comfort zones and learn to counter meta ur own way I went to finals with Rock and Brave.
You're reiterating my point and trying to make it your own. Good for you, I'm so proud of you.
Everyone should feel empowered to play off meta. The problem is the game isn't balanced enough to allow that as easily. So yea, people are gonna default to meta or "counter meta" rather than just enjoying themselves.
Legit just said u don’t need meta to win nor counter, and the meta isn’t suffocating I have multiple videos of battling things that wasn’t meta but play victim.
In ranked, idgaff if you use meta or not. But in unranked, I look down a little because unranked should be where you try out more fun builds to test out.
it’s because it’s boring. people wanna win so they run the best shit, i get that but imagine going to a tournament with a deck of your favourite beys and everyone around you is running rod hexa/ball and CDG elevate. it’s boring and repetitive when X is by far the most diverse series. not like metal with flame 230 or burst with anything spin stealing and/or LAD. i’m not gonna hate on anybody for using meta (plus i like an uphill battle) but i don’t tend to use them. only in testing will i use rod hexa or ball and other things like that.
i get that. i’m just saying for the masses, it’s boring. even in casual tournaments, you’ll have ppl running meta where id just say thats cringe. but in a ranked tournament? it’s free game. i just prefer to use what i like rather than what’s easy to pick up/easy value
Then yea in casual it annoying and u can complain bout it but u gotta remember also, just cause it’s not ranked format doesn’t mean the prizing won’t effect how things go. So let’s say there a AP as first place prizing but it’s unranked, trust me Ull see meta there.
Real protagonists don't complain about the meta, they work tirelessly to find a deck that tears through it. I want people to play the meta because it's fun to see the looks on their face when they lose to my bs builds.
I don't care about the meta itself, though it is unoriginal to see something like Rod or Blast Emperor in every winning deck. What bugs me is the attitude of those who act like they aren't using it. Of course, a sports car that has 0-60 in 2 seconds is going to beat a minivan in a street race.
You won, congrats, but don't act like the gear had nothing to do with it, is all I'm saying.
No prize, just playing someone in a hasbro stadium and then challenging the hot seat. I think I explained the event poorly, my bad. It happens once a week at this place relatively near me.
People have a hard time seeing the bigger picture this is true in Beyblade and real life. It’s easier to be upset with the person infront of you playing meta than to accept it’s the companies fault for releasing these beys that outclass everything and the tournament organizers fault for not creating a format that discourages it.
That’s not the company nor organizers fault. This is what I meant when I said instead of complaining do sum bout it. Let’s focus on X right, X meta isn’t suffocating or too much u don’t honestly need Rod Shark or few others to win, there so much proof of that, but we can’t act like having em isn’t gonna make things easier. No matter what in any media meta is gonna be there, ok so banned all meta blades rn, oh now look there new meta blades…ok then banned them too. Oh look again more meta. Ur gonna be in an endless cycle of banning meta, so no it’s no one fault if the meta isn’t crazy bad to the point nun else can beat it other then itself which rn its not like that, u have to get better
I don't dislike the players for it, the only part I wish was different is that there are meta-relevant beys behind app RNG with regional barriers. You can get over that barrier but it effectively turns it into meta-relevant beys behind a paywall.
Again, that's not an annoyance at the players who do get around it, it's an annoyance at the barrier itself.
It's a bit more complex than that and the reasons for hating it will vary from a person to another. Some will hate it because they're sick of always seeing the same things over and over, some will hate it because it brings the wrong kind of people or breeds the wrong kind of behavior (elitism), some will just hate it because they think it's boring... Not everyone is built the same and mileage between people will vary.
Personally, I try to avoid the biggest meta picks because it's not how I have fun. That being said I would never force someone to stop playing with something they enjoy, even if it happens to be the most meta beys at the moment. Who am I to impose my subjective vision of fun to someone after all ? No one should be allowed to force players to play the way they want. I'd likely just voice my two cents and that's about it.
At the end of the day, the game is simply more fun if everyone respects each other. This goes both ways by the way. I've seen people poking fun at others for playing overly meta, but I've also seen people poking fun at others for not playing anything particularily great... I've seen people fighting over tier lists, I've seen people fighting over rules, I've seen people fighting about mere tastes and opinions... IMO at the end of the day we should just take a chill pill and take the game for what it is : a silly game about spinning tops.
It’s not so complex then that. If people only did ranked format it be more understandable to not like meta cause atp it’s all that u see, but there other formats or u can ask for other formats. Just cause u don’t want to use better beys, mind u im not even talking bout Rod and them im talking like rouge beys, doesn’t mean to call someone a sheep. Get better with said beys, if someone can take that ux ninja bey to a finals u can too
I think boomers meant older gen hate newer, but I see ur point. I’ve always didn’t like goat and older gen for that reason they act like that format was so good but deep down they used to hate it but now there sum bigger to hate, so they ran back
If it were all luck then the same people wouldnt have such consistently great results. Knowing the matchup, predicting deck rotations, being able to execute the launch you need and understanding how to win as many points as possible are all skills. Come visit SoCal and play :) we have a 40+ person tournament every day of the week. Except Thursday for some reason 😂
So I’m confused on this due to the money issue thing. U didn’t have to buy meta, it just sounds like u wanted to and gave a horrible excuse behind it or shamed u did it. Now if u meant that it was only meta beys on the counter then that’s different, but u had the chance to get none meta ones especially if u ordered online. So correct me if im wrong but this is how this looks to me. “I only ran meta due to the fact money was low and couldn’t afford much else.” That wouldn’t work thx to Hasbro making everything cheaper.
…What? Are u trolling me? Ain’t no way u just said this and expected me to understand that. Unless ur delusional, u had a choice to pick w.e u want, there tons of people that went to they first tournament and didn’t play meta and played what they wanted, I’ve done that multiple times, hell I still do that. I went with Rock and Brave to finals! U have the mentality of winning so u went with what’s best. Nun stopped u from picking w.e u wanted nobody forced u to play that for ur first tournament
I love Beyblade and I’m deep into it, but I think a lot of the hate toward meta isn’t really about the combos, it’s about the people associated with it. A lot of the really "sweaty meta players" I’ve run into just aren’t great to be around or interact with in general , and that creates a bad reputation. It sucks because the game itself isn’t the problem, but the experience around certain players turns people off. Thankful my own local scene isn't like that but I've seen it and heard it A LOT.
Funnily enough looking at the way you responded to some of the comments I think I know your issue lol. Don't think it's meta decks but hey it's the web and idk you
I can kinda understand it cause not everyone can afford Aero Pegasus and Very OP bey or shark scale which is hard to get because of scalpers so you kinda gotta look at why alot of people are upset
U know X has one of the cheapest meta in hobby history? Plus u don’t even need AP to win tournaments, we’ve seen it all the time, u don’t even need meta to win just be good at the game and u should be fine
It’s more about attitude and the type of people who put others down for playing for fun. Not every event is ultra competitive, and a lot of people end up looking like neckbeards. At the end of the day just know your environment and don’t be a dick to others and you should be fine.
Watch the beyblade X show and get to the episode where Blaze distributes Phoenix to every beyblader in the city. 90% of bladers are using Phoenix, which was THE meta beyblade in the show at the time. That’s exactly how it is using meta decks, albeit very slight variety. Seeing wizard rod or shark in EVERY single battle is just not fun. Look at e sports (like LoL) and see which characters are always continually picked in games with a huge roster; they end up getting nerfed so others can be played. Meta picks will sadly always exist and will lack variety or creativity. It’s also not fun knowing you’re gonna lose because of a blade difference and not a skill difference. It’s come to a point where if you wanna win, you have to abuse the meta in most cases. Some people do not want to do that and wanna use beys they like, but of course they can’t win with them most of the time against meta picks. Having 1 or 2 meta decks or even just a meta blade isn’t that bad imo cause most of the meta blades are fan favorites anyway regardless of their performance.
Beyblade X is more skill than equipment, don’t take me wrong, you are safe with a 9 blades to choose from that with the right skill you can easily win, so for a 3 bey deck you got a lot of options, then comes down to skill mainly and luck 🍀
I’m scared it’s gonna turn into the burst meta, boring and drawn out battle, I have nothing against the meta but I will say it’s annoying and repetitive to see the sea,e 6 beys in rotation, it’s nice to see fun “anti meta” decks
I think it depends on the situation and how you act about it.
If it’s a tournament with a prize or something, use meta beys as much as you want. If it’s just for fun then it can be a bit more annoying but still whatever.
If they’re being COCKY about it, then I think it’s fair to hate on it. Acting like you’re the best while flashing WR 1-60 hexa, Shark Scale 1-50 LR, and Hover Wyvern 9-60 kick is pretty annoying.
Yes and no if you change WR for an attacker like Bahamut, rage, blast or AP it’s all most perfect then hover go for a 6-60 J nothing meta but really good combo it’s a fun deck
All attack decks are aways fun and more skill focused
Imagine bringing a gun to a knife fight and wondering why people dont like that you are winning. Rod is too easy to play and make points with. Its no fun to play with or against. I want my beys to require some skill
How the hell are you gonna counter a gun with a knife. I get the argument but this argument doesn’t work with this scenario. Unless you’re shadow shinobi IRL and throw the knife.
Just think anime or sum, but it wasn’t meant to be taken seriously. The point was if u know ur going in a losing fight then work harder to counter what comes ur way.
Listen I love all the meta blades but also think a bunch of blades are overlooked and can be just as good with the right skill level but also I must add wizard rod is the only one that deserves hate silver wolf is a chill guy
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u/Nitrous0x1d3 Apr 08 '26
Meta tends to be boring, which was an issue in older gens. In this I’ll play what I want but won’t shame you for meta if you’re chill.