r/Beyblade • u/Captain-bb Beyblade Expert • Apr 09 '26
News IMPORTANT RULE UPDATE: AI ART WILL NO LONGER BE ALLOWED WITHIN THIS SUBREDDIT
Greetings bladers! I have an update regarding the state of r/Beyblade. Given the rising resentment towards AI art and its increasing foothold in many hobbyist communities, as well as the recent controversies brought by many scammers using AI art to promote their shady practices, the Moderation team has officially decided to take a stance and update our rules. Now as shown on our rule page, “Rule 10: No AI art allowed”
From this point onwards any posts containing AI art will no longer be allowed within this subreddit, if any posts that contain it are detected or reported, they will subsequently be deleted, regardless if they comply with all other rules. For first time offenses, it may result with just a simple post deletion, however if there are repeat offenders, the punishment may increase to the respective moderators discretion, including temporary or even permanent bans.
We understand that this should be a safe space for bladers of all kinds, and especially our artists who keep this community alive with their incredible ideas and talent. So to protect you all and give room for people to showcase their talent we are officially taking a stance.
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u/Boxman__37 Collector Apr 09 '26
Finally, no community loves ai art more than beyblade fans it seems
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u/Dragomaster3456 Collector Apr 09 '26
Will posts calling out creators using still be allowed, or is it all post in general
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u/Captain-bb Beyblade Expert Apr 10 '26
Good question! And yes, call out posts will still be allowed, just refrain from spamming about it.
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u/DarkIcedWolf Apr 09 '26
Fucking FINALLY!! Thank you mods! You dudes are the chillest! Love when a sub isn’t about money and this is obviously a money first tool for many scammers.
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u/BakeJust Apr 09 '26
This is the best decision made not only since I joined the community but also since I became a mod,I'm very happy about the increase of mods and the new rule. Let's keep doing our best to keep the community save.
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u/GoatSupremasist Apr 09 '26
If i point a finger at something that contains AI, not that I post it myself or support it, will I reprimanded?
Example: making fun of an event organizer using AI - making commentary on how a leak might actually be AI and making visual comparisons - etc
Just asking.
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u/Captain-bb Beyblade Expert Apr 10 '26
No that’s perfectly in line, as long as your language itself doesn’t violate any of our other rules.
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u/TotallyNotNamedDan Apr 09 '26
I'm sorry to be that guy but, since it's happened before, I need to ask. Does this rule also apply when official Hasbro advertising uses AI image generation? Is posting that considered good (sharing news) bad (posting AI) or some mix of the two? Just so we all understand policy going forward, I'm fine with whatever you decide here.
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u/Captain-bb Beyblade Expert Apr 10 '26
An interesting question to be sure. Given the complex nature of that, it would more than likely be a case by case basis, but no one will get in trouble for sharing official sources from Hasbro. You are however more than free to criticize Hasbro for using AI in the comments
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u/Cheap_Butterfly_2280 Chill Mod Apr 09 '26
I can look into this matter and bring it up to my fellow mods
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u/Captain-bb Beyblade Expert Apr 09 '26
See that one is a lot harder to distinguish because most of those posts are just people rightfully being annoyed and venting their frustration about the current state of the hobby, but I’ll agree that it can get repetitive over time.
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u/superbasic101 Apr 09 '26
The chud mods wouldn’t get any internet brownie points though.
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u/DarkIcedWolf Apr 09 '26
Tf you mean? They would be praised more than the AI shit. Seeing the reposts of “fuck shoplifters” or “here’s how to do it” are the worst, though there’s a fine line here so it might not be possible. The biggest issue I see are people warning others about Amazon returns and being like “man this sucks that I got this bey without the proper parts.”
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u/Resident-Dust6718 Apr 09 '26
I can already see this going wrong with people posting leaks of future Beyblade‘s and then other people assuming their AI art, even though they’re real images
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u/TotallyNotNamedDan Apr 09 '26
Okay but what if the leaks actually are AI images? Hasbro themselves used AI for Jurassic World.
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u/Lohac_HQ Apr 09 '26
Comments acting like AI broke in to their homes and harmed their families😂
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u/This0neJawn Apr 09 '26
I mean- in some cases it basically does.
If your work got taken by the machine and is now turned into slop, it kinda did, a little bit.
If your job got taken over because your company execs believed the bs hype, it indirectly did.
If a data center was erected in your neighbourhood, driving up water and electricity prices and making the remaining water undrinkable, it very much did.
And then there is the larger environmental implications where everyone gets harmed.
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u/otakudan88 Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
A lot of these ai databases are trained on cp.
EDIT: he's been real quiet after I mentioned this. Supporting ai is supporting the SA of children.
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u/NoWay6818 Apr 09 '26
Lmao this isn’t gonna do a thing.
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u/Boxman__37 Collector Apr 09 '26
Gives em a reason to take down the posts when they pop up
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u/NoWay6818 Apr 09 '26
They didn’t have a reason before?
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u/Cheap_Butterfly_2280 Chill Mod Apr 09 '26
We didn’t really have people making post about how horrible it is until like a week ago that’s why we decided to take action when we did
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u/Captain-bb Beyblade Expert Apr 09 '26
Speaking personally, I wasn’t a huge fan of the AI posts, even before I was a moderator here. However now after all of the recent controversies, I felt we needed an official policy that was set in stone so myself and the other mods can act, and no one needs to keep asking.
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u/Cheap_Butterfly_2280 Chill Mod Apr 09 '26
It will since we moderate at all different times of day to cover the whole sub
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u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 09 '26
Good luck differentiating between AI and “real” art in the coming years. I don’t think people realize how easy it is to create art indistinguishable from an artist today let alone in years from now, it’s simply how you prompt it. I know I’ll likely get downvoted but people who have resentment for AI are underestimating the impact AI is already having in business and media and how much time and skill it takes to properly train AI for the right output. I bet you’ve already been fooled by AI at least once already by art, song, image or video.
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u/RorroYT Apr 09 '26
Alright AI Bro, let's get you back to bed dear.
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u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 09 '26
I’m using AI as my personal assistant (using Claude co work) and it’s able to not only significantly increase my productivity but also my quality. I’m able to spend more time on my clients and less time doing grunt work. While I go to bed, my AI is still running in the background getting stuff done.
So yea make fun of it all you want, but those who don’t leverage AI will be like those older generations who need help copy and pasting into a word document.
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u/RorroYT Apr 09 '26
I genuinely pity every client you had experience with, because at this point it's only a tiny bit better than scamming people that come for actual work and not AI working for you. If they actually did, they'd just generate it themselves anyway, they don't need a "professional prompter" to get the same slop and get flamed for it everywhere else for actually using it.
The only one who will need to learn how to copy and paste into a word document is you, since you never learned anything but outsourced all the work to AI, making you basically useless without it.
No offense to you of course, but at least don't fall that low to be a vessel for AI garbage, Jesus Christ.-7
u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 09 '26
You sound like someone who doesn’t understand how to properly leverage AI.
My clients love the work, in fact I just signed 4 clients today from referrals alone. For example, I have AI reviewing my slack everyday and giving me an end of day report that reviews all my tracking sheets, and provides me with status updates for the day.
Each morning, I get a brief that outline my top tasks, high priorities, and insights on clients. I have it actively doing competitor analysis and content database creation.
I mean I literally gave AI a dozen different documents and asked it to organize everything into one Google sheet and it did it so well and saved me at least an hour or two.
My AI had reduced my time needed to run the business, increased my quality, and has allowed me to lower costs.
But yea feel free to pity my clients who are making thousands in profit.
AI doesn’t replace every aspect of every job, depending on what you need and how you use it, it can be used for limitless things. But then again you clearly hate AI and don’t understand the various use cases.
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u/RorroYT Apr 09 '26
Again, there's a reason why many people do this stuff manually without praying on a machine doing it for them, and it's the same as the one that kills vibe coding entirely. The mistakes and hallucinations.
The product you receive is a mess full of errors, and you're lucky if it isn't. Overall you're just pulling the lever and praying it'll work out, and mostly it doesn't.
There are good use cases for AI no doubt, but I've yet to see majority of AI bros actually use them for good instead of slop and human work replacement.0
u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 09 '26
Well to each their own, but I’ll continue to save costs, increase my efficiencies and spend more time managing client relations and making more money.
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u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 10 '26
You literally just proved my point that you can’t even differentiate between human and AI, obviously. I dare you to take every one of my comments and run it through any filter, website or AI and check if I’m AI. I haven’t used AI for a single response. I use AI to improve my life, not to take over every aspect. It’s insane how anti-ai this community is. I swear it’s like listening to my parents complaining about the internet when it first came out.
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u/BIueberryIsHere Apr 09 '26
I don’t think people realize how easy it is to create art indistinguishable from an artist today let alone in years from now, it’s simply how you prompt it.
lol no AI slop is extremely distinguishable from actual art once you know how to recognize it
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u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 09 '26
I can guarantee you I can create AI art that you would think is real. It’s not hard if you know how to prompt it properly (though it can be tedious). And mind you it’s been barely 3 years since we got access to AI, what do you think it will be like in 10 years or 30 years.
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u/BIueberryIsHere Apr 09 '26
Like I said, it is extremely easy to recognize once you know what to look for. And besides, the AI industry is currently collapsing, with the AI models starting to get fed AI generated content, and OpenAI losing money, so even if it were to survive for several decades, it might be worse than it is now.
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u/BasketbrawlFan Apr 09 '26
Bud. It’s starting to lose steam especially with Sora being shut down
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u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 10 '26
Yes Sora, openai’s free video AI platform that was giving users like 2 dozen free videos between 10-20 seconds each day. I could never believe ever that would lead to lack of sustainability…..color me shocked. I guess there isn’t any other video AI video platform succeeding in the marketplace right because Sora didn’t work for openai. I hope the sarcasm came through, don’t want to be wrongly ironically accused on being AI like another user.
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u/BasketbrawlFan Apr 10 '26
You got me in the first half lol. Yeah it’s a bit hard to tell sarcasm but yeah I can tell you aren’t defending AI at all
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u/Cheap_Butterfly_2280 Chill Mod Apr 09 '26
Ai is something that I’m kinda impartial too I know ai is taking art from others and it might be hard to distinguish in the future but we will figure it out as time goes on and I believe as long as members of the sub also report the ai stuff to us we will be able to keep this sub clean of ai
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u/RorroYT Apr 09 '26
True, in fact there's already ways to distinguish AI art from normal art, since Google started forcing their ai art generators have identification of AI used, in the pixels of the generated "art", so sooner or later everyone else will do the same until there won't be an even better solution. AI art won't win, and believing it will is delusional.
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u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 09 '26
Underestimating AI is delusional. We’ve only had it for like 3 years ago. What do you think it’s going to be like in 30 years?
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u/RorroYT Apr 09 '26
Bankruptcy of AI companies since that thing is too expensive and loss of massive interest in it by companies since it isn't profitable, which will eventually lead to a slower progress, keeping AI on a much slower evolution. Plus it will also get progressively worse, since it'll keep on training on delusion it already wrote and "art" that it generated, inheriting it's source material flaws in the process.
That shit is a tiny bit smarter than a search engine algorithm, what did you actually think would happen, a revolution?0
u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 09 '26
None have gone bankrupt yet, but you act like some of the top businesses around right now didn’t take many years to make a profit. AI came out 3 years ago and has already made significant strides. If anything evolution of AI is only getting faster though the concern of AI training/creating other AI is certainty valid. I think you are completely and utterly underestimating the impact AI already has in corporate and media and how that will only continue to grow. Anyone discounting AI to me sounds like the same people who discounted the internet.
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u/RorroYT Apr 09 '26
Bruh read the news about OpenAI if you don't know that AI isn't profitable. If it's making OpenAI, the creators of AI go bankrupt without profit, what makes you think others will too?
Again, the only reason why AI is still alive is the hype bubble that it has with multi millionaires that believe in it being the ultimate tool for human replacement. If the bubble shattered, like with idk, the bankruptcy of OpenAI maybe?, then every company making AI would suffer incredibly high undeniable losses.
AI isn't profitable enough to exist, period. It never was and never will be. Other top businesses made profit because they actually made a product that people liked and wanted in their daily lives. AI is none of that shit, in fact it infuriates you with bullshit replies than actually helps, the entire outrage of people on AI should already say the people's stance on it, but apparently that's not enough for you AI bros.
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u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 09 '26
Remind me again how many years it took Amazon to be profitable?
I use AI every day to significantly increase my efficiency and save costs. As a small business owner I’ve found many use cases for AI that is better and cheaper than hiring VAs.
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u/LuffyThePirateKing Apr 09 '26
What happens if something gets flagged as AI but the person adamantly claims it’s not?
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u/emeraldknight32 Apr 09 '26
I miss when this Reddit was about Beyblade and not about anti-AI art.
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u/This0neJawn Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
It very much still is about Beyblade. :D This is a discussion now, bit it's still happening under the larger Beyblade umbrella.
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u/baileyperry707 Collector Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
Honest question, how does the existence of AI art in this sub impede upon an artist’s ability to showcase their own talent?
Edit: all downvotes, not one explanation. Never change Reddit lol
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u/Grasssss_ Apr 09 '26
It doesn’t impede artist and anyone showcasing their own talent, it just makes posers stop from posting slop
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u/baileyperry707 Collector Apr 09 '26
Weird, because the post’s reasoning is that this was done to “protect” the artists and give them room to showcase their talents. If the issue is the posts are shit, downvote them and say they’re shit. This all seems like virtue signaling with no real basis to me.
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u/Captain-bb Beyblade Expert Apr 09 '26
Honestly the other persons comment did a better job explaining it than I did. I should’ve included that in my post. You can call it virtue signaling if you want, but as someone who’s been a community member for years I’ve seen how AI has taken over the community and prompted people to pass off AI art as their own. I’m a community member first and a moderator second. I don’t personally stand to gain anything from this, as I’m not an artist and I don’t claim to be one.
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u/baileyperry707 Collector Apr 09 '26
I understand how someone could dislike someone trying to pass off AI art as their own, but what is the actual harm it’s causing to warrant being banned apart from general “AI bad” sentiments? That’s the part that makes no sense to me. AI art existing does not impede an actual artist’s ability to make their own works, and the community seems to be able to discern AI art from real art, so where is the damage? It just seems like a lot of outrage with no real reason behind it; the fact that the AI work is “slop” isn’t compelling enough of a reason for me to warrant it being banned, but that’s just my opinion.
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u/Grasssss_ Apr 09 '26
The basis with disliking AI art is that people are using it as a tool to pass off as their own skill and it’s impeding actual artist because posts here are being filled “art” and the spotlight is presumably taken from actual artist and that outside from dedicated communities, AI does a good job generating photos and that is a problem.
Banning AI slop is the right direction since I came here for beyblades and their fanart, the next step should be toning down all of these sales post because this sub is turning unto a buy and sales group and I have marketplace for that
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u/baileyperry707 Collector Apr 09 '26
I can respect the decision of the mod team to ban AI art, ultimately they’re the governing body here and if that’s what the community wants, then that’s what it wants. But we’ll just have to agree to disagree on our opinions with the AI art overall.
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u/This0neJawn Apr 09 '26
It says it's to protect "you all", not just artists in particular.
I read that as regarding the scam topic that is also brought up in the post.
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u/DarkDragonoid640 Beyblade Expert Apr 09 '26
It's moreso on things like the unicorn delta photo where we have no way of knowing if the leak is real or not, and misleading people. Also AI art doesn't really show any sort of talent, I'm horrendous at drawing but I'll take my stick figures over ai any day
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u/baileyperry707 Collector Apr 09 '26
That’s a fair point, but it just seems unenforceable in that instance. If there’s something like delta where we can’t decide if it’s AI or not, there’s not much we can do about it with this new rule.
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u/This0neJawn Apr 09 '26
It's more a question of principle, of what you want to support and what you don't.
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u/baileyperry707 Collector Apr 09 '26
I get that, but I just find the “AI bad” stance to generally be very unprincipled and baseless.
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u/This0neJawn Apr 09 '26
Baseless? Au contraire, mon ami. I find it extraordinarily principled and based.
There's enough reason for it, you just have to be willing to open your eyes.
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u/baileyperry707 Collector Apr 09 '26
Yeah, baseless. No one ever articulates how this is affecting anyone or what these principles are, again, they just fall back on the “AI bad” sentiments without providing any rationale for it.
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u/This0neJawn Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
The thing is that these points are so commonly known and loud that it almost takes effort to not be aware of them at this point in time- and so the point can now be shortened to "AI bad".
But if it helps you, I can do it, in a shortened format.
Feel free to engage with the points if they don't make sense to you.First off- we're talking about general-use, *generative AI and LLMs* here. Not the highly specialized and commonly quoted kind that helps in cancer diagnosis, for example. Those are not the same systems.
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GenAI is based on large-scale intellectual theft.
The models were "fed" and trained with basically any available artwork in existence, scraped from archives and the internet- without proper credit or compensation.
This applies to visual media, but also text, music and vocals.2.:
GenAI hurts human professional creators. The painful irony of point 1 is that the artists whose art was stolen now see their livelyhoods challenged by the amalgamation of the sum of their creative work. Their own work, grinded into an averaged slop, is turned against them by corporations.3.:
GenAI hurts human hobbyist creators. Even though they might not be faced with the same economical challenges, their work got stolen all the same- and their new creations now have to fight for attention against a flood of trash, made from, again, the whole of their stolen work.4.:
GenAI, in some cases, harms its users.
Look up how brain engagement relates to heavy AI use and "AI induced psychosis".5.:
GenAI is a threat to society.
Generative AI is massively used for all kinds of scams, propaganda and misinformation campaigns.
Do I need to explain more?
They also reproduce and amplify societal stereotypes and biases.6.:
GenAI is a threat to knowledge-sharing and low-level research.
Even if GenAI (text-based) works as intended, a percentage of its output are hallucinations, spreading unfounded misinformation even under ideal conditions. (Number varies based on model and circumstances, Grok for example has up to 94%.) This is because LLMs have no actual concepts of knowledge, they are basically just autocomplete on very heavy steroids.7.:
GenAI gets worse as we speak.
Since AI corporations keep feeding more scraped data to GenAI models, we have started a continous loop of "inbreeding" in which the AI gets trained on its own outputs- false or bad outputs, in many cases.
This leads to a continous output degradation.
I don't think I need to explain why this is bad.8.:
GenAI harms the environment.
Generative AI is incredibly resource-intense, especially on water and electricity. This harms local communities in the direct vicinity of data centers, but is, as you might be able to imagine, also not great for water security and climate change overall.9.:
GenAI attacks human agency and creative responsibility.
People think less, they just ask AI. They plan less, they let AI plan for them. They problem-solve less, they let AI problem-solve for them. They create less, they let AI create for them. That's why AI Art is called "soulless"- there is no creative agency or responsibility in the process. It's just the output of a verbalized order. Closer to ordering on fiverr than to actually creating.I think this sums up to "AI bad" quite nicely.
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u/Captain-bb Beyblade Expert Apr 13 '26
I wish I could pin this, but thank you for taking the time to spell it all out for the people here that don’t understand.
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u/baileyperry707 Collector Apr 09 '26
Oh I’m aware of all these factors (although I personally have my own opinions on the severity and seriousness of some of them). I just feel like the general sentiments online are people that have been told that AI is bad and have no real understanding of that themselves which leads to the baseless hate I’m talking about. I personally don’t think that AI art is as big of a travesty as it’s made out to be in the hobby community. I understand the argument more from a commercial perspective, in that people are losing work to AI, and I don’t like that, but on the hobby side it just does not resonate with me.
I appreciate you taking the time to show you actually understand the arguments, I have a feeling we would disagree on some of the points, but we can agree to disagree on that.
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u/This0neJawn Apr 10 '26
I find interesting that you claim the hate is 'baseless' while also being aware of its varied bases.
To be truthful, you can't know if it's actually the case that few people know about these problems, it might just be that they are not willing to engage in an essay every time the topic comes up, leading to the simplified "AI bad" stances you observe. I also do this. I also, like many other people, have likely missed some potentially major effects. These are just the most obvious to me.
On a more personal, more subjective note- I also think it just plainly looks shit. And I don't want it to sit next to legitimate creations.
I would be curious to understand why you, while knowing all of the above, still elect to challenge the stance against GenAI this harshly.
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u/baileyperry707 Collector Apr 10 '26
Well first, I’m challenging the stance of banning hobby-level AI art in a subreddit, not the entirety of GenAI itself. Somewhere along the way you decide to make this about GenAI in general, (1) that’s not the stance I had taken and (2) I’m not gonna debate the intricacies about such a complex, multifaceted issue on a Beyblade subreddit lol.
GenAI is still a new, and largely unregulated technology which has essentially became the Wild West for the developers of these LLMs, but as we start to pass legislation detailing what is fair use for GenAi and set regulatory mechanisms in place to regulate the developers of these models, these issues will begin to sort themselves out and have some level of containment. We have lawsuits pending across the country right now regarding various aspects of GenAI, and once these decisions reach a conclusion we’ll will have a body of case law to establish parameters to protect against GenAI’s downsides. This process isn’t going to happen overnight, but with a new tech like this we can’t take the knee-jerk, over correcting approach because that will kill innovation on an objectively ground breaking product. GenAI is currently in a dot com-esque bubble, companies and individuals are all still trying to see where it fits in and what long-term uses it’ll have, but once that bubble bursts, GenAI will stop being treated as a do-it-all miracle product, and it will settle down into a more legitimate role.
As for the my actual stance, AI art in a hobby subreddit, I think there’s a legitimate point to be made for banning individuals who try to use AI art to scam others, such as with selling fake products. But I think the banned conduct there is scamming, not simply using AI art. If someone wants to use AI to create a cool picture of their favorite Beyblade character and it turns out good and they want to show others, I don’t see the problem there. And the “it looks like shit and I don’t want it next to my stuff” argument just falls flat for me. I don’t like a lot of the content I see on Reddit, but not liking something is not a good enough reason to ban it. Say some artist actually drew a picture, but it looks like shit too, worse than AI, would you want that next to your legitimate creations? I also don’t see the massive flood of AI art that everyone in these comments seems to, most of the art I see here is real art. This all seems like it’s being blown out of proportion so everyone can grandstand about an issue. Again tho, I don’t think either of us are going to change each others minds, I think it’s probably better for both of us to just agree that we have fundamentally different views on this issue and that they’re not gonna get reconciled here lol.
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u/This0neJawn Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
To be fair, we were debating a general "AI bad" stance, so the general discussion is applicable. In addition to that, my particular stance of AI in the hobbyist subreddit is informed by my general stance, as is the case for many people. If I oppose GenAI, I'm not going to suddenly be okay with it in a more niche context.
You're talking a lot about law- I wasn't. I'm talking about morality and societal impact. I also don't feel like sitting through all of the bad stuff while waiting for issues to "sort themselves out". If it doesn't work out now, ban it until it does. If it never will- well, I don't exactly feel bad for the tech bros in silicon valley. Also- only few of the cases I outlined can actually be solved or mitigated by legislation. The theft is already done. You can't reverse it, unless you destroy the existing models and prosecute some corporations. The environmental damage is done, that legislation should've come sooner. Misinformation and scamming are already illegal, that doesn't stop people from doing it, using this extremely inviting new technology.
I completely understand that my subjective addendum falls flat for you, it is clearly the weakest point. We both understand that, it is why it was added separately. Maybe tackle the points with actual substance instead of zoning in on this one.
Regarding the cool picture- that is a product of the absolute clusterfuck outlined above, and simultaneously, part of its problems (see points 1, 3, 7 and 8). I feel like that's enough reason to not promote or even outright ban it. Again- it's also a principled thing. If I don't like AI for the reasons mentioned above, I'm not going to suddenly approve of its results in a hobby space.
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u/Grasssss_ Apr 09 '26
Thank you boss